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#1 Edited by lilben42 (2487 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1: Morals on for Superman, Morals on for Goku, Canon only except GT, No BFR, Post Crisis Superman

Team 2: Morals off, Wonder Woman has her sword with normal equipment, No BFR, Canon only for feats, Thor has normal eqipment

Both teams see each other as enemies. Everyone is going all out. No Speed Blitzing.

It's obvious Team 1 has more firepower but can the powers and strength of Thor and skill and speed of Wonder Woman give them the win?

#2 Edited by lytet5 (66 posts) - - Show Bio

team 2, solely on the fact that they are bloodlusted and team 1's holding back, and as someone already said, you'd never want to fight a pissed off thor.

#3 Posted by lilben42 (2487 posts) - - Show Bio

@lytet5: I tried to make it as fair as possible. Have any suggestions.

#4 Posted by ToO_RaW (1077 posts) - - Show Bio

When Thor has no morals he can god blast can he not? How does team 1 have more fire power?

#5 Posted by Lvenger (18190 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman still blitzes Thor into unconsciousness and then Goku and Superman double team Wonder Woman.

#6 Posted by spidermanandsuperman (274 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger said:

Superman still blitzes Thor into unconsciousness and then Goku and Superman double team Wonder Woman.

#7 Posted by dondave (34221 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger said:

Superman still blitzes Thor into unconsciousness and then Goku and Superman double team Wonder Woman.

QFT

#8 Posted by terry2012 (4757 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger: This.

#9 Edited by lilben42 (2487 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger: I don't know WW and Thor would probably have great teamwork.

@ToO_RaW: I meant in all.

#10 Posted by lilben42 (2487 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger: Wouldn't thor just blast Superman away though.

@spidermanandsuperman: Wouldn't Thor just blast Superman away though.

#11 Posted by OneVision_OnePurpose (289 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku is one of the few people that would actually make the mistake of letting Thor charge up a Godblast or just absorbing all of his energy.

#12 Posted by Lvenger (18190 posts) - - Show Bio

@lilben42: They've never met one another before. How can they have great teamwork? Furthermore that image you posted is what Thor could do to Superman if he stood still. Which he's not going to do. Thor not holding back doesn't change the fact he has very poor reaction and combat speed feats that put him nowhere near Superman. It might take a bit longer and Superman might get hit by Thor but he'll still get blitzed. Nothing about him holding back less changes his poor speed feats.

#13 Posted by lilben42 (2487 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger: They are both trained warriors. Thor can blast Superman away. As shown in the last two scans. He could even hit Superman he hit Gladiator. His hamer can travel faster than light speed and can also track people, Superman can't escape that.

#14 Posted by e3zombie (720 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman > Thor

Wonder Woma > Goku

Superman > Wonder Woma

#15 Posted by SpeedForceSpider (902 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger said:

Superman still blitzes Thor into unconsciousness and then Goku and Superman double team Wonder Woman.

#16 Posted by lilben42 (2487 posts) - - Show Bio

@ToO_RaW: He can.

#17 Posted by Bo88gdan (4393 posts) - - Show Bio

Теам 2

#18 Posted by Lvenger (18190 posts) - - Show Bio

@lilben42 said:

@Lvenger: They are both trained warriors. Thor can blast Superman away. As shown in the last two scans. He could even hit Superman he hit Gladiator. His hamer can travel faster than light speed and can also track people, Superman can't escape that.

Drawing on straws now aren't you? Thor's hammer can travel at about 2x lightspeed according to an issue of AvX whereas Superman's travel speed clocks in at multiple times light speed. You can bet your bottom dollar that he can outrun and escape Thor's hammer with ease. Thor's been tagged by street levellers like Spider-Man, Mongoose, even Captain America and his combat speed really doesn't match up to Superman's. Plus Superman can vibrate his molecules fast enough to become intangible or invisible so even if by some chance Mjolnir catches up to him, Superman can still dodge it. Like I said before, Superman is leagues above Thor in terms of speed and reactions. Please stop trying to come up with decent arguments for Thor winning. It really can't be done even with a bloodlusted Thor.

#19 Posted by lilben42 (2487 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger: I'm not trying to say Thor would win but I'm trying to say he would make a good fight. Classic Thors hammer is faster than Superman. As for intagibility.....

#20 Posted by Saren (25265 posts) - - Show Bio

Vision doesn't phase the same way that Superman does. He lowers the density of his form. Superman vibrates his molecules through matter. Thor hurting Vision doesn't mean his hammer has a one-size-fits-all solution for intangibility.

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#21 Posted by Lvenger (18190 posts) - - Show Bio

@CitizenBane said:

Vision doesn't phase the same way that Superman does. He lowers the density of his form. Superman vibrates his molecules through matter. Thor hurting Vision doesn't mean his hammer has a one-size-fits-all solution for intangibility.

Was just about to say this to @lilben42: And Thor had the hammer in his hand at the time which he wouldn't in the instance you gave of Thor throwing his hammer at Superman. If Thor had better speed feats then it would be a fairer match. Since he doesn't, being bloodlusted only gives Thor more of a chance of landing a square hit on Superman, not necessarily beating him.

#22 Posted by lilben42 (2487 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger: Ok well I still think Thor can blast Superman away. I'll change the rules to no speed blitzing.

#23 Posted by Lvenger (18190 posts) - - Show Bio

@lilben42: That would be closer but still Team 1. Superman can still dodge Thor's blasts and hammer, vibrate through his attacks, keep him at bay with heat vision and freeze breath and eventually outperform Thor. I think Goku might be able to hold off Wonder Woman in that time given his versatility and comparative fighting skills and speed.

#24 Posted by lilben42 (2487 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger: As long as its closer.

#25 Posted by dccomicsrule2011 (23115 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1, Thor is the weak link here he can't hang with Superman,Goku or Wonder Woman when it comes to speed.

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#26 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor & Wonder Woman stomp.

#27 Posted by Vaeternus (9410 posts) - - Show Bio

Supes and Goku

#28 Posted by Lvenger (18190 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor & Wonder Woman stomp.

(Sigh) No they don't. Team 1 still takes it in a close win.

#29 Posted by Rage_Hard (39 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger said:

Superman still blitzes Thor into unconsciousness and then Goku and Superman double team Wonder Woman.

Giggity.

#30 Posted by Lvenger (18190 posts) - - Show Bio

@Rage_Hard said:

@Lvenger said:

Superman still blitzes Thor into unconsciousness and then Goku and Superman double team Wonder Woman.

Giggity.

With hindsight I should have foreseen the innuendo in that comment :P

#31 Posted by Rage_Hard (39 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger said:

@Rage_Hard said:

@Lvenger said:

Superman still blitzes Thor into unconsciousness and then Goku and Superman double team Wonder Woman.

Giggity.

With hindsight I should have foreseen the innuendo in that comment :P

ROFL

#32 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor & Wonder Woman stomp.

(Sigh) No they don't. Team 1 still takes it in a close win.

Yes they do. I am not going to debate this though.

#33 Edited by comicace3 (3469 posts) - - Show Bio

Ooook Superman beats thor due to his countless supply of the sun. And goku is capable of kicking wonder woman's ass. I don't know how you people think Goku has no chance against wonder woman. I mean really guys? The op doesn't say he can only turn SSJ1 ya know. Team 1 for the win.

#34 Posted by Nightflash (713 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2 rather easily. Wonder Woman or Thor can stall Superman while the other quickly dispatches Goku. After a maximum of ten minutes Superman finds himself fighting Wonder Woman and Thor and he gets defeated.

#35 Posted by ImmortalT1000 (3170 posts) - - Show Bio

@Vaeternus said:

Supes and Goku

#36 Edited by lilben42 (2487 posts) - - Show Bio

@comicace3: Thors hammer is magic so is countless supply of sun doesn't really matter as much as it would.

#37 Posted by Overkill (404 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman alone would give team 2 a hard time. With Goku's help, this ends rather quickly.

#38 Posted by All_Mighty_Beyonder (1577 posts) - - Show Bio

Mismatch,

Goku and Superman are above both Wonder woman and Thor in raw power.

SuperGokuman godstomps

#39 Posted by lilben42 (2487 posts) - - Show Bio

@Overkill: Wonder Woman alone has beaten an all out bloodlusted Superman. They would have no problem taking him down together.

@All_Mighty_Beyonder: Thor has more fire power than Goku. Wonder Woman has a faster combat speed, has more skill, and is a better tactictian than Superman. Don't under estimate team 2

#40 Posted by lilben42 (2487 posts) - - Show Bio

@Lvenger: Do you think I should give Wonder Woman the godwave, maybe it would make the fight more fair.

#41 Posted by Israphael (350 posts) - - Show Bio

@lilben42:

@Overkill: Wonder Woman alone has beaten an all out bloodlusted Superman. They would have no problem taking him down together.

@All_Mighty_Beyonder: Thor has more fire power than Goku. Wonder Woman has a faster combat speed, has more skill, and is a better tactictian than Superman. Don't under estimate team 2

Goku is a casual planet buster and arguably solar system/galaxy buster depending on what one counts as canon.

#42 Posted by All_Mighty_Beyonder (1577 posts) - - Show Bio

@lilben42 said:

@All_Mighty_Beyonder: Thor has more fire power than Goku. Wonder Woman has a faster combat speed, has more skill, and is a better tactictian than Superman. Don't under estimate team 2

i'm not underestimating team 2, Thor doesn't have more fire power than Goku, where that come from?!! and Superman is faster than Wonder Woman and stronger.

#43 Posted by lilben42 (2487 posts) - - Show Bio

@All_Mighty_Beyonder: Thor has the god blast. Wonder Woman has better combat speed.

#44 Posted by lilben42 (2487 posts) - - Show Bio

@Israphael: Yeah I know I've read and seen DBZ.

#45 Posted by All_Mighty_Beyonder (1577 posts) - - Show Bio

@lilben42 said:

@All_Mighty_Beyonder: Thor has the god blast. Wonder Woman has better combat speed.

Thor is a slowpoke, Goku can easily dodge any attack he will make, and speedplitz him. Goku with only SSJ1 is a planetbuster ++ i don't recall Thor can destroy even 1 planet. Goku is superior in fire power by light years.

Superman when in character and concentrate in fight can take any attack from Wonder Woman, and he's more durable and stronger.

#46 Posted by NeonGameWave (7686 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1.

#47 Posted by Lvenger (18190 posts) - - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@Lvenger said:

@jeanroygrant said:

Thor & Wonder Woman stomp.

(Sigh) No they don't. Team 1 still takes it in a close win.

Yes they do. I am not going to debate this though.

Oh so you're that sure you'd win that you can't be bothered to debate me? Real signs of a non winning argument there. I know you're a massive Thor fan so your judgment has been known to be skewed in that regard. Seen your arguments for this debate before and they're far from concrete

@lilben42: Unfortunately that would tip the scales in Team 2's favour a fair bit.

#48 Posted by King-Stranglehold da first (3215 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2 easily...Goku is a non factor. Thor has a variety of powers. And WW has out skilled Superman multiple times.

#49 Edited by lilben42 (2487 posts) - - Show Bio

@All_Mighty_Beyonder: Well good thing the rules say no speed blitzing. The godblast forced Galactus to retreat. I think its safe to say its stronger than whatever Goku can dish out without the fusing. Oh and yeah Thor can destroy planets.

@Israphael: Would Goku even destroy a solar system in the first place?

#50 Edited by lilben42 (2487 posts) - - Show Bio

@All_Mighty_Beyonder: Not when she has her sword with no morals actually WW might be able to kill Superman but who knows.

@Lvenger: Well I guess its fair enough. I don't know who would win.