Superman and Goku (team)

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#1 Posted by SSJLozza (1170 posts) - 6 months, 4 hours ago - Show Bio

If these two actually met they would be friends not foes, so who is the strongest pair of villains that these two could take down between them? End of DBZ Goku and current Superman. 24hrs prep during which time Goku can ask for Kai's help if he wishes and for the sake of this thread Kai knows any characters weakness. Supes can sundip for all 24hrs if he wishes.

#2 Posted by GunGunW (972 posts) - 6 months, 3 hours ago - Show Bio

Oh my...

#3 Posted by SSJLozza (1170 posts) - 6 months, 3 hours ago - Show Bio

@GunGunW: What's wrong with it? Everyone has differing opinions on them against each other but I think everyone would admit they're both pretty beast so I thought this would be an interesting thread. Looks like I'm alone in that opinion lol.

#4 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 6 months, 3 hours ago - Show Bio

Superman

#5 Posted by SSJLozza (1170 posts) - 6 months, 3 hours ago - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: They're a team fighting 2 villains read first post.

#6 Edited by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 6 months, 3 hours ago - Show Bio

@SSJLozza:

Bizarro & Vegeta.

#7 Posted by stonerthps (734 posts) - 6 months, 3 hours ago - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant said:

@SSJLozza:

Bizarro & Vegeta.

LOL. Superman is irrelevant Goku stomps all.

#8 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 6 months, 3 hours ago - Show Bio

@stonerthps: LOL

#9 Posted by tomlikesfries (3227 posts) - 6 months, 2 hours ago - Show Bio

I wouldn't put Bizarro as the strongest. I mean, Supes with a day of sun dipping curbstomps Bizarro.

Maybe Vegeta & Black Adam

#10 Posted by SSJLozza (1170 posts) - 6 months, 2 hours ago - Show Bio

@stonerthps: I agree that Goku is way more powerful than Supes and he is my favourite fictional character so obviously I'm rooting for him, but Superman is far from irrelevant, he's still pretty damn powerful it's just Goku is uber x100.

#11 Edited by stonerthps (734 posts) - 6 months, 2 hours ago - Show Bio

@tomlikesfries said:

I wouldn't put Bizarro as the strongest. I mean, Supes with a day of sun dipping curbstomps Bizarro.

Maybe Vegeta & Black Adam

yes because vegeta is a challenge for end of DBZ Goku and black adam would definitely put up a fight against a person who can destroy the planet at his first form looool.

@SSJLozza said:

@stonerthps: I agree that Goku is way more powerful than Supes and he is my favourite fictional character so obviously I'm rooting for him, but Superman is far from irrelevant, he's still pretty damn powerful it's just Goku is uber x100.

Nah he really is irrelevant goku is far beyond him and any comic character pretty much.

#12 Posted by tomlikesfries (3227 posts) - 6 months, 2 hours ago - Show Bio

@stonerthps said:

@tomlikesfries said:

I wouldn't put Bizarro as the strongest. I mean, Supes with a day of sun dipping curbstomps Bizarro.

Maybe Vegeta & Black Adam

yes because vegeta is a challenge for end of DBZ Goku and black adam would definitely put up a fight against a person who can destroy the planet at his first form looool.

You overrate Goku. And you haven't yet stated what villains they could take. Just out of curiosity, who do you think that are the pair of strongest villains Goku and Supes could beat?

#13 Posted by CalebHara (2216 posts) - 6 months, 2 hours ago - Show Bio

@tomlikesfries said:

I wouldn't put Bizarro as the strongest. I mean, Supes with a day of sun dipping curbstomps Bizarro.

Maybe Vegeta & Black Adam

supers with a day of sun dipping is around 100 times more powerful than he was before and stomps anyone :)

#14 Posted by SSJLozza (1170 posts) - 6 months, 2 hours ago - Show Bio

@stonerthps: I agree that Goku is more powerful but superman has been sundipped for a day (I imagine that's how he'd use the time) Goku will need to be SSJ2 to be stronger than him. So effectively it's an SSJ2 leveller alongside an SSJ3 I'd say the SSJ2 level fighter is far from a non-entity. I really like Goku he's my favourite fictional character but I see no need to bash Superman who is still a beast in his own right. As for any comic book character that's just not true, cosmic level characters would stomp Goku that's just a fact all be it a hard one for us DBZ fans.

#15 Posted by CalebHara (2216 posts) - 6 months, 2 hours ago - Show Bio

Thanos and Darkseid

#16 Posted by tomlikesfries (3227 posts) - 6 months, 2 hours ago - Show Bio

@CalebHara said:

@tomlikesfries said:

I wouldn't put Bizarro as the strongest. I mean, Supes with a day of sun dipping curbstomps Bizarro.

Maybe Vegeta & Black Adam

supers with a day of sun dipping is around 100 times more powerful than he was before and stomps anyone :)

I am aware of that, but maybe I underestimated the team a little bit. Okay, how about: Shazam! & Black Adam WW3?

#17 Edited by stonerthps (734 posts) - 6 months, 2 hours ago - Show Bio

@CalebHara said:

@tomlikesfries said:

I wouldn't put Bizarro as the strongest. I mean, Supes with a day of sun dipping curbstomps Bizarro.

Maybe Vegeta & Black Adam

supers with a day of sun dipping is around 100 times more powerful than he was before and stomps anyone :)

lmfao. these guys..

@tomlikesfries said:

@stonerthps said:

@tomlikesfries said:

I wouldn't put Bizarro as the strongest. I mean, Supes with a day of sun dipping curbstomps Bizarro.

Maybe Vegeta & Black Adam

yes because vegeta is a challenge for end of DBZ Goku and black adam would definitely put up a fight against a person who can destroy the planet at his first form looool.

You overrate Goku. And you haven't yet stated what villains they could take. Just out of curiosity, who do you think that are the pair of strongest villains Goku and Supes could beat?

Honestly they'd be two people from DBZ because not a single character is fast enough to touch Goku nor strong enough to withstand a kamehameha wave. Sice Super Buu and some other guy (?)

Goku moves faster than the speed of light. He also can instant transmission anywhere there isn't a character fast enough or strong enough to face him. Especially since he is at his strongest at the end of DBZ. Good luck finding a fight that would be worthy. They're gonna need reaction speed and nobody has that to match gokus speed let alone take a hit from him.

@CalebHara said:

Thanos and Darkseid

would get slaughterstomped

#18 Posted by CalebHara (2216 posts) - 6 months, 2 hours ago - Show Bio

@stonerthps: Supes sun dipped for full day puts him past Goku, does it not?

#19 Posted by stonerthps (734 posts) - 6 months, 2 hours ago - Show Bio

@CalebHara said:

@stonerthps: Supes sun dipped for full day puts him past Goku, does it not?

LOL NO. HAHAHAAHHAHAHAHA. That was a good joke.

#20 Posted by tomlikesfries (3227 posts) - 6 months, 2 hours ago - Show Bio

@stonerthps said:

@tomlikesfries said:

@stonerthps said:

@tomlikesfries said:

I wouldn't put Bizarro as the strongest. I mean, Supes with a day of sun dipping curbstomps Bizarro.

Maybe Vegeta & Black Adam

yes because vegeta is a challenge for end of DBZ Goku and black adam would definitely put up a fight against a person who can destroy the planet at his first form looool.

You overrate Goku. And you haven't yet stated what villains they could take. Just out of curiosity, who do you think that are the pair of strongest villains Goku and Supes could beat?

Honestly they'd be two people from DBZ because not a single character is fast enough to touch Goku nor strong enough to withstand a kamehameha wave. Sice Super Buu and some other guy (?)

Goku moves faster than the speed of light. He also can instant transmission anywhere there isn't a character fast enough or strong enough to face him. Especially since he is at his strongest at the end of DBZ. Good luck finding a fight that would be worthy. They're gonna need reaction speed and nobody has that to match gokus speed let alone take a hit from him.

Ok, are you saying that Goku would completely destroy a character like Zoom and that Zolomon wouldn't be fast enough to touch him?

#21 Posted by tomlikesfries (3227 posts) - 6 months, 2 hours ago - Show Bio

@stonerthps said:

@CalebHara said:

@stonerthps: Supes sun dipped for full day puts him past Goku, does it not?

LOL NO. HAHAHAAHHAHAHAHA. That was a good joke.

Yes it does LOL. Superman sun dipped for a full day would stomp Goku.

#22 Posted by stonerthps (734 posts) - 6 months, 2 hours ago - Show Bio

@tomlikesfries said:

@stonerthps said:

@tomlikesfries said:

@stonerthps said:

@tomlikesfries said:

I wouldn't put Bizarro as the strongest. I mean, Supes with a day of sun dipping curbstomps Bizarro.

Maybe Vegeta & Black Adam

yes because vegeta is a challenge for end of DBZ Goku and black adam would definitely put up a fight against a person who can destroy the planet at his first form looool.

You overrate Goku. And you haven't yet stated what villains they could take. Just out of curiosity, who do you think that are the pair of strongest villains Goku and Supes could beat?

Honestly they'd be two people from DBZ because not a single character is fast enough to touch Goku nor strong enough to withstand a kamehameha wave. Sice Super Buu and some other guy (?)

Goku moves faster than the speed of light. He also can instant transmission anywhere there isn't a character fast enough or strong enough to face him. Especially since he is at his strongest at the end of DBZ. Good luck finding a fight that would be worthy. They're gonna need reaction speed and nobody has that to match gokus speed let alone take a hit from him.

Ok, are you saying that Goku would completely destroy a character like Zoom and that Zolomon wouldn't be fast enough to touch him?

Yes I'm saying that.

#23 Edited by SSJLozza (1170 posts) - 6 months, 2 hours ago - Show Bio

@CalebHara: Hmm I wouldn't say that afterall just as sun dipping multiplies Supes powers, each SSJ level also multiplies Goku's and at base he is planet buster so no. But Supes is far from irrelevant!

#24 Posted by CalebHara (2216 posts) - 6 months, 2 hours ago - Show Bio

@stonerthps said:

@CalebHara said:

@stonerthps: Supes sun dipped for full day puts him past Goku, does it not?

LOL NO. HAHAHAAHHAHAHAHA. That was a good joke.

But it isnt a joke, what has Goku done that would ever put him past a sundipped superman?

#25 Posted by stonerthps (734 posts) - 6 months, 2 hours ago - Show Bio

@tomlikesfries said:

@stonerthps said:

@CalebHara said:

@stonerthps: Supes sun dipped for full day puts him past Goku, does it not?

LOL NO. HAHAHAAHHAHAHAHA. That was a good joke.

Yes it does LOL. Superman sun dipped for a full day would stomp Goku.

Goku is a universe buster homie.

#26 Posted by CalebHara (2216 posts) - 6 months, 2 hours ago - Show Bio

@SSJLozza: Sundipping has the potential to make Superman more powerful than Goku. SSJ has a limit right? and that is 4 or 5? where as Superman sundipping has no limit. The most powerful ,sundipped version of Superman would crush the most Powerful version of Goku IMO.

#27 Posted by stonerthps (734 posts) - 6 months, 2 hours ago - Show Bio

@CalebHara said:

@stonerthps said:

@CalebHara said:

@stonerthps: Supes sun dipped for full day puts him past Goku, does it not?

LOL NO. HAHAHAAHHAHAHAHA. That was a good joke.

But it isnt a joke, what has Goku done that would ever put him past a sundipped superman?

Um killed Super Buu who was gonna destroy reality itself.

#28 Posted by SSJLozza (1170 posts) - 6 months, 2 hours ago - Show Bio

C'mon guys they're supposed to be working together why has this turned into another Goku vs Superman thread when it was specifically designed not to be?!

#29 Posted by CalebHara (2216 posts) - 6 months, 2 hours ago - Show Bio

@SSJLozza: im trying not to, i think that The most powerful Versions of Both could beat a team like Galactus and Tyrant, most powerful though.

#30 Posted by SSJLozza (1170 posts) - 6 months, 2 hours ago - Show Bio

@CalebHara: Potentially yes as no higher than SSJ4 is canon so if Superman stayed in the sun long enough he could surpass Goku or virtually anyone, however he only has a day and that's not long enough imo. however this isn't a Goku vs Superman thread.

#31 Posted by CalebHara (2216 posts) - 6 months, 2 hours ago - Show Bio

@stonerthps: Im talking actual levels of power, he has nothing that would put him remotely close to the most powerful version of Superman, which is SMP1Million.

#32 Posted by SSJLozza (1170 posts) - 6 months, 2 hours ago - Show Bio

@CalebHara: I think most people would agree SMP1mil would stomp the DBZ verse.

#33 Posted by CalebHara (2216 posts) - 6 months, 2 hours ago - Show Bio

@SSJLozza: sorry about that, only one day sun dip, Thanos and pre-crisis Darkseid

#34 Posted by SSJLozza (1170 posts) - 6 months, 2 hours ago - Show Bio

@CalebHara: SMP1mil isn't relevant though this is current Superman and he isn't fighting his team mate. I should have known the thread would turn out like this.

#35 Posted by SSJLozza (1170 posts) - 6 months, 2 hours ago - Show Bio

@stonerthps: Stop turning this into Goku vs Superman it was going fine till you started low-balling Superman!

#36 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 6 months, 1 hour ago - Show Bio

@tomlikesfries said:

@stonerthps said:

@tomlikesfries said:

I wouldn't put Bizarro as the strongest. I mean, Supes with a day of sun dipping curbstomps Bizarro.

Maybe Vegeta & Black Adam

yes because vegeta is a challenge for end of DBZ Goku and black adam would definitely put up a fight against a person who can destroy the planet at his first form looool.

You overrate Goku. And you haven't yet stated what villains they could take. Just out of curiosity, who do you think that are the pair of strongest villains Goku and Supes could beat?

Maybe 10 times more powerful.

#37 Posted by vicodinman (4 posts) - 6 months, 1 hour ago - Show Bio

Most Superman enemies would curbstomp Goku so it wouldn't be fair

#38 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 6 months, 1 hour ago - Show Bio

@tomlikesfries said:

I wouldn't put Bizarro as the strongest. I mean, Supes with a day of sun dipping curbstomps Bizarro.

Maybe Vegeta & Black Adam

I just put randomly.

#39 Posted by GunGunW (972 posts) - 6 months, 1 hour ago - Show Bio

@SSJLozza: No I meant they'd be extremely powerful together

#40 Edited by xeon1cs (1471 posts) - 6 months, 1 hour ago - Show Bio

@stonerthps said:

@tomlikesfries said:

I wouldn't put Bizarro as the strongest. I mean, Supes with a day of sun dipping curbstomps Bizarro.

Maybe Vegeta & Black Adam

yes because vegeta is a challenge for end of DBZ Goku and black adam would definitely put up a fight against a person who can destroy the planet at his first form looool.

@SSJLozza said:

@stonerthps: I agree that Goku is way more powerful than Supes and he is my favourite fictional character so obviously I'm rooting for him, but Superman is far from irrelevant, he's still pretty damn powerful it's just Goku is uber x100.

Nah he really is irrelevant goku is far beyond him and any comic character pretty much.

Have you ever read a comic book in your entire life? To even suggest that Goku is even remotely close to being as fast as Zoom, let alone faster, is one of the dumbest thing I have ever read in my entire life. Then you go and top it off by claiming Goku is a universe buster. I mean...he's clearly not, but you know...whatever.

#41 Posted by SSJLozza (1170 posts) - 6 months, 1 hour ago - Show Bio

@jeanroygrant: 10 times more powerful what do you mean?

#42 Edited by xeon1cs (1471 posts) - 6 months, 1 hour ago - Show Bio

Professor Zoom and Zoom would curbstomp this team stupidly fast.

As for who they could beat...probably whoever isn't Zolomon/Thawne. We just have no idea how things like the Omega Beams would work against Goku, or high levels of telepathy.

#43 Posted by SSJLozza (1170 posts) - 6 months, 1 hour ago - Show Bio

Hmm I think he would fare ok as he has taken immense energy blasts a number of times, telepathy though may well effect him I'm really not sure as no DB or DBZ villain has used it.

#44 Posted by KingofComix (192 posts) - 6 months, 1 hour ago - Show Bio

@xeon1cs said:

Professor Zoom and Zoom would curbstomp this team stupidly fast.

As for who they could beat...probably whoever isn't Zolomon/Thawne. We just have no idea how things like the Omega Beams would work against Goku, or high levels of telepathy.

In theory goku is probably one of the few character at his level to even be able to theoretically truly "dodge" or avoid Omega beams. It's debatable whether he could avoid them or not, since he can IT to different dimensions.

#45 Posted by tomlikesfries (3227 posts) - 5 months, 30 days ago - Show Bio

@stonerthps said:

@tomlikesfries said:

@stonerthps said:

@tomlikesfries said:

@stonerthps said:

@tomlikesfries said:

I wouldn't put Bizarro as the strongest. I mean, Supes with a day of sun dipping curbstomps Bizarro.

Maybe Vegeta & Black Adam

yes because vegeta is a challenge for end of DBZ Goku and black adam would definitely put up a fight against a person who can destroy the planet at his first form looool.

You overrate Goku. And you haven't yet stated what villains they could take. Just out of curiosity, who do you think that are the pair of strongest villains Goku and Supes could beat?

Honestly they'd be two people from DBZ because not a single character is fast enough to touch Goku nor strong enough to withstand a kamehameha wave. Sice Super Buu and some other guy (?)

Goku moves faster than the speed of light. He also can instant transmission anywhere there isn't a character fast enough or strong enough to face him. Especially since he is at his strongest at the end of DBZ. Good luck finding a fight that would be worthy. They're gonna need reaction speed and nobody has that to match gokus speed let alone take a hit from him.

Ok, are you saying that Goku would completely destroy a character like Zoom and that Zolomon wouldn't be fast enough to touch him?

Yes I'm saying that.

Well, folk, then you've probably never touched a comic book in your life. I could name dozens of characters in comics who could absolutely destroy Goku. And, yes, a sun dipped Superman is one of them. And so is Zoom lol.

#46 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 5 months, 30 days ago - Show Bio

@SSJLozza said:

@jeanroygrant: 10 times more powerful what do you mean?

I don't believe a sun-dip would make Superman 100x stronger like people have said. Only about 10x

#47 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - 5 months, 30 days ago - Show Bio

@tomlikesfries said:

I wouldn't put Bizarro as the strongest. I mean, Supes with a day of sun dipping curbstomps Bizarro.

Maybe Vegeta & Black Adam

Black Adam is no worse than Bizarro.

#48 Posted by mypasswordis1234 (877 posts) - 5 months, 30 days ago - Show Bio

Doomslayer and Despero(his telepathic abilities are arguable though)

Lobo and General Eiling.(via Genki Dama, Sundipped Supe would play them while Goku charge)

#49 Posted by CalebHara (2216 posts) - 5 months, 30 days ago - Show Bio

@SSJLozza said:

Hmm I think he would fare ok as he has taken immense energy blasts a number of times, telepathy though may well effect him I'm really not sure as no DB or DBZ villain has used it.

The Omega beams are different, it can be a concussive blast, a blast of pure energy, or it can easily BFR anyone in ann instant by wiping them from existence or sending them travelling through time. It is capable of simply erasing a living object, such as Goku or Superman. He can trap them in alternate realities, and send himself and other through matter and space. Darkseid stated himself that no one has ever felt the full force of the Omega Beams, he has always held back greatly. The times that the Beams have failed to eliminate opponents are because they are protected from its effect because of their place in that universe, or because they are immensely powerful, and he has only used the concussive blasts.

He can do any of this by Goku, he is not protected the same way Superman is. Superman would have to take Darkseid while the other guy took Goku.

#50 Posted by jobbernos (1372 posts) - 5 months, 25 days ago - Show Bio

superman.

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