Superman and Batman vs Silver Surfer

VS

Conditions:

• Both sides get a month prep time... Superman can sun dip if he wants..

• Pre 52 versions....

• Morals off for both sides.....

• Fight on earth in Metropolis.

• Both sides start about a kilometre apart...
• No outside help.

Who wins?

superman and batman.Superman have speed advantage and bruce will use it

Team

Morals off? Surfer absolutely stomps these two regardless of their prep.

Surfer pretty easily, as he is morals Off.

Even Supes has the moral off, so, SS is powerful, but he can't defeat Superman easily...

Team have a edge here.

Ahaha don't be ridiculous, first of all Surfer is much faster than Superman. On his board he can cross five galaxies in one second and this isn't teleportation. That is billions of times the speed of light, he can also speed blitz super. Scan him for weaknesses in a nano second and convert super's underpants into kryptonite. Batman he can turn into a worm then devolve the worm into a bacteria before Batman knows what hit him.

This is massive spite.

QFT.

Norrin win this.

Batman for the non-factor, Surfer changes Superman's DNA to plain human. Flies away. Morals on or off, Surfer wins.

The duo.

@albertphytagoras: @darlur: Superman is managed to see the speed of light frozen from point blank range this means surfer have NOTHING against him.Surfer have nanosecond reaction speed at his best.Regular Superman can percieve things that happen in picoseconds.Which means he'll see him frozen

SS annihilates them both.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong but can't surfer with morals off simply disintegrate living matter at a whim?

Team

Team

@dorukesin: Superman can't beat Surfer and you know it.

Surfer.

SS easily

Surfer stomps.

Of course he can't beat Surfer alone.But you know Clark have much faster perceiving speed than Norrin and Batman will use this advantage to beat Norrin

also hell

Batman without prep

Batman with prep

Norrin

Bruce is a better prepper than silver surfer and superman can sundip. Team wins.

@dorukesin: Batman is formidable with prep, but Surfer is out of his league. He can travel at light-years too, Clark won't be perceiving that. Considering morals are off, he can blitz at that speed.

By the way, SS can "Sundip" too, or drain Clark of his Solar radiation.

SS stomps.

Silver Surfer...

@frozen: I'm not talking about travelling speed.Also keep that in your mind that Surfer universal travel feats are warping space/warp speed.Clark moves and percieves the speed of light frozen from minimal distances(point blank range) which means he'll see Surfer frozen when the fight bell rings.Bruce have a month to make a knowledge and preparation which means he'll find a weakness and use it with Superman's speed advantage.

Team. Phantom Zone or Supes since his morals are off ask Lex Luthor for help.

Silver Surfer.

lol that's an option too

Then what's to stop SS from asking Thanos or Doom for help, both of whom are >>>>>>> Lex in the prep department?

Surfer can warp in combat with morals off and he can travel in combat.

My vote goes for the Surfer. Supes can be a big prob as he has prep time, but hey, Surfer doesn´t have any type of specific weakness more than someone sucking his power cosmic (something that Bats and Supes has nothing of knowledge of). Surfer can absorb different type of energy and manipulate it, so if he gets a grip on Supes, he can drain his solar power and dematerialize him. Bats is no problem, a cosmic beam and he is done. Maybe if Bats and Supes get to build a machine to suck Surfer`s power cosmic, then the team would stomp (same as Dr. Doom did in "Loftier than Mortals"), but, now again, they dont have such knowledge of the extent of the power cosmic and even if they did, I dont think that a month of prep would be enought. The Power Cosmic can bring beigns to life, alter matter and manipulate almost any type of energy PLUS the Surfer has the Cosmic Awareness and his board gives him the speed advantage (travelling through galaxies in seconds is way faster than Superman going to the Sun and back in minutes). Maybe some alien technology would work on the Surfer, but we must remember that the Surfer is having prep also, he might be able to call FF, Galactus, any other supporting herald or get some Infinity Gems (this is an extreme case, but whatever). Supes and Bats can create a device to teleport Surfer into the Phantom Zone same as Surfer can borrow a device from Dr Richards to send the team to the Negative Zone. Now THAT would be interesting. Anyway, Surfer wins because of his speed advantage and matter manipulation.

Editing the OP... NO outside help....

@eternityx: Lex is all about prep.They're not bigger than Lex.Of course Surfer will stomp Superman on one on one but let's be realistic,Clark have speed advantage and Bruce will use it

@dorukesin: SS is microsecond/nanosecond.SS has no weakness and Bruce needs to understand power cosmic first and even then he gets stomped.SS fought at light speed.

how ? do you have any scans ? As far as I know,Surfer have nanosecond reaction speed at his best .

Doom and Thanos destroy Lex in the prep department.

So no one wonders why Batman is here?:D

nope

Just because Superman is here :D

I already gave him prep and put him next to someone he has good chemistry with.... He might be a non factor alone, but next to Superman I'd say he isn't.....

I sort of knew Clark alone couldn't deal with a bloodlusted Surfer... So I put him next to Batman with prep time and set this to Morals off for this to be more even....

Team..

Yep

@eternityx: no.Lex Luthor is the most brilliant person in whole DC.He will destroy Thanos with numbers

With what?

Um yeah. I think its a bit unfair...Although I might be wrong if superman is careful and follows Batman's plan.

Well Surfer has gone beyond light speed (transwarp speed) and his very speed was bending space and time, when he crossed a white hole to look for enslavers ship.

He has also travelled light years in seconds.

And here is another , more recent, example of Silver Surfer travelling light years in seconds

Gallery

Enslaver ships that were going for one solar system to another , destroying whatever they please, found Silver Surfer so fast they couldnt perceive him, and started shooting hapazardly at him missing everytime.

There are some you might find helpful, but i fear this might not be what you are looking for.

We also have few example of Silver Surfer running circles around the planet at beyond light speed, if that's any use.

Here's one.

Here is another.

Here is a very old one.

There are of course others.

I dont know man, i just find it hard to see Superman as faster than Surfer, let alone anywhere close to as fast as you are saying.