Superior Spiderman vs The Mandarin

#1 Edited by ComicStooge (5285 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

Fight takes place:


Otto = A
Mandarin = B

Rules:
- Mandarin has no rings
- Spidey is Ock (obviously)
- Morals on
- No prep
- Win via KO, Incapacitation or Kill
#2 Posted by jashro44 (9217 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

Doesn't Mandarin fight iron man? Or is he a lot weaker without the rings? I would imagine he takes this unless I am missing something.

#3 Posted by NeonGameWave (5107 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

The Mandarin maybe.

#4 Posted by FiMFTW (687 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

Are you kidding me? Not even 1 or 2 rings? Spider-Man dismantles him.

@jashro44 said:

Doesn't Mandarin fight iron man? Or is he a lot weaker without the rings? I would imagine he takes this unless I am missing something.

I'm pretty sure that's like saying since Lex Luthor fights Superman he'd win against Spider-Man.

#5 Posted by Shawnbaby (5858 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

It's really too soon to be putting Superior Spider-Man up against anyone...Otto's feats as Spider-Man are pretty minimal so far.

#6 Posted by jashro44 (9217 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@FiMFTW said:

Are you kidding me? Not even 1 or 2 rings? Spider-Man dismantles him.

@jashro44 said:

Doesn't Mandarin fight iron man? Or is he a lot weaker without the rings? I would imagine he takes this unless I am missing something.

I'm pretty sure that's like saying since Lex Luthor fights Superman he'd win against Spider-Man.

According to Mandarins comicvine page he has the ability to amp his chi which allows him to fight iron man without the rings. I also recall seeing a scan of Mandarin without rings damaging iron man. If I am correct than Mandarin should take this pretty easily.

#7 Posted by BR_Havoc (264 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

Otto runs away from his first SSM fight against Speed Demon after one punch so.....I will say Mandarin cuz he Otto flees from the fight

#8 Posted by jashro44 (9217 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@BR_Havoc said:

Otto runs away from his first SSM fight against Speed Demon after one punch so.....I will say Mandarin cuz he Otto flees from the fight

We don't know if he ran away and he was punched thousands of times in a fraction of a second. All though Mandarin probably wins if his comicvine page is accurate...

#9 Posted by ComicStooge (5285 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@Shawnbaby said:

It's really too soon to be putting Superior Spider-Man up against anyone...Otto's feats as Spider-Man are pretty minimal so far.

Aren't Peter's feats applicable to Otto?

#10 Posted by ComicStooge (5285 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

Doesn't Mandarin fight iron man? Or is he a lot weaker without the rings? I would imagine he takes this unless I am missing something.

He can throw down with Tony:

#11 Posted by jashro44 (9217 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@ComicStooge: Judging by your scans he probably takes this. He seems quite durable to be taking hits from iron man.

@ComicStooge said:

@Shawnbaby said:

It's really too soon to be putting Superior Spider-Man up against anyone...Otto's feats as Spider-Man are pretty minimal so far.

Aren't Peter's feats applicable to Otto?

This was discussed in the amazing vs Superior spider-man thread. I believe it was agreed that Otto may have Peters stats but he might chose to use the powers differently, doesn't have some of Peters character traits, etc. We need to see how he does combat wise first.

#12 Posted by ComicStooge (5285 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

@ComicStooge: Judging by your scans he probably takes this. He seems quite durable to be taking hits from iron man.

@ComicStooge said:

@Shawnbaby said:

It's really too soon to be putting Superior Spider-Man up against anyone...Otto's feats as Spider-Man are pretty minimal so far.

Aren't Peter's feats applicable to Otto?

This was discussed in the amazing vs Superior spider-man thread. I believe it was agreed that Otto may have Peters stats but he might chose to use the powers differently, doesn't have some of Peters character traits, etc. We need to see how he does combat wise first.

Fair enough. I'll BUMP this thread when we've seen more from Otto.

#13 Posted by InkInk (74 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

@BR_Havoc said:

Otto runs away from his first SSM fight against Speed Demon after one punch so.....I will say Mandarin cuz he Otto flees from the fight

We don't know if he ran away and he was punched thousands of times in a fraction of a second. All though Mandarin probably wins if his comicvine page is accurate...

Madarin would destroy this clown, no matter what Otto is stll going to be himself and he is not a fighter he is a thinker.

I think he does run away in those preview pages, which makes me think there odd ones to show people that are already highly critcal of this series before it began.

#14 Posted by jashro44 (9217 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@InkInk said:

@jashro44 said:

@BR_Havoc said:

Otto runs away from his first SSM fight against Speed Demon after one punch so.....I will say Mandarin cuz he Otto flees from the fight

We don't know if he ran away and he was punched thousands of times in a fraction of a second. All though Mandarin probably wins if his comicvine page is accurate...

Madarin would destroy this clown, no matter what Otto is stll going to be himself and he is not a fighter he is a thinker.

I think he does run away in those preview pages, which makes me think there odd ones to show people that are already highly critcal of this series before it began.

I never said Mandarin would lose. Personally I think he goes to get tech in order to fight the rest of the sinister 6. But we don't know. We need to wait.

#15 Posted by InkInk (74 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

@InkInk said:

@jashro44 said:

@BR_Havoc said:

Otto runs away from his first SSM fight against Speed Demon after one punch so.....I will say Mandarin cuz he Otto flees from the fight

We don't know if he ran away and he was punched thousands of times in a fraction of a second. All though Mandarin probably wins if his comicvine page is accurate...

Madarin would destroy this clown, no matter what Otto is stll going to be himself and he is not a fighter he is a thinker.

I think he does run away in those preview pages, which makes me think there odd ones to show people that are already highly critcal of this series before it began.

I never said Mandarin would lose. Personally I think he goes to get tech in order to fight the rest of the sinister 6. But we don't know. We need to wait.

Could be, who knows I think its going to bevery tough for Otto to win me over. I just hope the story is good and they do not dumb everyone down so they do not notice a huge change in Peters personality.

#16 Posted by jashro44 (9217 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@InkInk:Yea I agree with that.

#17 Posted by god_spawn (30404 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@jashro44: BUT DA OCTOMAN MADE THE LOGAN BLEED!!! Peter didn't do dat with hiz pawnches but only make him zmile.

I guess you can say Otto is just....

Superior

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#18 Posted by jashro44 (9217 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@god_spawn:LOL

#19 Posted by Shawnbaby (5858 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

The thing of it is there's going to be like 3 people running around in Spidey's head. The Person Peter was, The Person Otto was, and the Personality that emerges from the combination of the two.

@god_spawn: Well, Otto might have made Logan bleed...But Peter did this to him:

And that was just

AMAZING

#20 Posted by god_spawn (30404 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@Shawnbaby: LOL. Touche.

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#21 Posted by Killemall (13453 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

@Shawnbaby said:

The thing of it is there's going to be like 3 people running around in Spidey's head. The Person Peter was, The Person Otto was, and the Personality that emerges from the combination of the two.

@god_spawn: Well, Otto might have made Logan bleed...But Peter did this to him:

And that was just

AMAZING

hahah :) full of win :)

#22 Posted by dondave (7532 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

Mandarin

#23 Posted by HulkSlayerT1000 (1066 posts) - 4 months, 16 days ago - Show Bio

Mandarin was way more baddera$$ I am not sure though if Spidermans taken out someone around Mandarins level or not.

#24 Posted by FiMFTW (687 posts) - 4 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

@FiMFTW said:

Are you kidding me? Not even 1 or 2 rings? Spider-Man dismantles him.

@jashro44 said:

Doesn't Mandarin fight iron man? Or is he a lot weaker without the rings? I would imagine he takes this unless I am missing something.

I'm pretty sure that's like saying since Lex Luthor fights Superman he'd win against Spider-Man.

According to Mandarins comicvine page he has the ability to amp his chi which allows him to fight iron man without the rings. I also recall seeing a scan of Mandarin without rings damaging iron man. If I am correct than Mandarin should take this pretty easily.

People debate about whether IRON FIST wins against Spider-Man.

You can't possibly believe Mandarin is anywhere near that level of chi.

#25 Posted by laflux (4860 posts) - 4 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

@jashro44: BUT DA OCTOMAN MADE THE LOGAN BLEED!!! Peter didn't do dat with hiz pawnches but only make him zmile.

I guess you can say Otto is just....

Superior

This is the reason why god_spawn is the debating champion.

#26 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (15634 posts) - 4 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio
@Shawnbaby said:

The thing of it is there's going to be like 3 people running around in Spidey's head. The Person Peter was, The Person Otto was, and the Personality that emerges from the combination of the two.

@god_spawn: Well, Otto might have made Logan bleed...But Peter did this to him:

And that was just

AMAZING

What the hell has "I'm hip" got to do with anything?
#27 Edited by laflux (4860 posts) - 4 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

Outdated Turkey jive, serving to prove that without a doubt that he- Luke Cage is the token Black Man in the group.

#28 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (15634 posts) - 4 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio
@laflux: does it even make sense in they way he used it?
#29 Posted by SoA (3527 posts) - 4 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous: not been used since the 70s and no.

#30 Posted by laflux (4860 posts) - 4 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@laflux: does it even make sense in they way he used it?

It means, he cool with the situation- that is Wolverine being a d!ck, and being punched out of the window as his reward. But its outdated, boring, and really just stereotypes the character.

Black people- like me, don't speak like that anymore lol.

#31 Posted by Jonny_Anonymous (15634 posts) - 4 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio
@laflux: it reminds me of this   
#32 Posted by Guardiandevil83 (1911 posts) - 4 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio

@laflux said:

@Jonny_Anonymous said:

@laflux: does it even make sense in they way he used it?

It means, he cool with the situation- that is Wolverine being a d!ck, and being punched out of the window as his reward. But its outdated, boring, and really just stereotypes the character.

Black people- like me, don't speak like that anymore lol.

What'chu talkin bout turkey?!?I still's speak the jive and keeps it live, ya dig? I showl lik...I'm sorry I just can't. lol

#33 Posted by laflux (4860 posts) - 4 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio

@Guardiandevil83 said:

What'chu talkin bout turkey?!?I still's speak the jive and keeps it live, ya dig? I showl lik...I'm sorry I just can't. lol

#34 Posted by Guardiandevil83 (1911 posts) - 4 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio

@laflux said:

@Guardiandevil83 said:

What'chu talkin bout turkey?!?I still's speak the jive and keeps it live, ya dig? I showl lik...I'm sorry I just can't. lol

Now that's how you use slang...go Spidey!! And thanks for this, I actually wondered if these two ever fought, being as how they ran in some of the same circles earlier in their career. And damn..the white man wins again. lol

#35 Posted by Veitha (1630 posts) - 4 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

@jashro44: BUT DA OCTOMAN MADE THE LOGAN BLEED!!! Peter didn't do dat with hiz pawnches but only make him zmile.

I guess you can say Otto is just....

Superior

@Shawnbaby said:

The thing of it is there's going to be like 3 people running around in Spidey's head. The Person Peter was, The Person Otto was, and the Personality that emerges from the combination of the two.

@god_spawn: Well, Otto might have made Logan bleed...But Peter did this to him:

And that was just

AMAZING

HAHAHAHAH

#36 Posted by laflux (4860 posts) - 4 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio

@Guardiandevil83 said:

@laflux said:

@Guardiandevil83 said:

What'chu talkin bout turkey?!?I still's speak the jive and keeps it live, ya dig? I showl lik...I'm sorry I just can't. lol

Now that's how you use slang...go Spidey!! And thanks for this, I actually wondered if these two ever fought, being as how they ran in some of the same circles earlier in their career. And damn..the white man wins again. lol

While I think current Spider-Man would beat current Cage, Luke Cage was weaker back then.

#37 Posted by Guardiandevil83 (1911 posts) - 4 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio

Otto could win if he dosen't run liike a cowered. Maderin fought Iron Man, but so as Peter.

#38 Posted by jashro44 (9217 posts) - 4 months, 15 days ago - Show Bio

@FiMFTW said:

@jashro44 said:

@FiMFTW said:

Are you kidding me? Not even 1 or 2 rings? Spider-Man dismantles him.

@jashro44 said:

Doesn't Mandarin fight iron man? Or is he a lot weaker without the rings? I would imagine he takes this unless I am missing something.

I'm pretty sure that's like saying since Lex Luthor fights Superman he'd win against Spider-Man.

According to Mandarins comicvine page he has the ability to amp his chi which allows him to fight iron man without the rings. I also recall seeing a scan of Mandarin without rings damaging iron man. If I am correct than Mandarin should take this pretty easily.

People debate about whether IRON FIST wins against Spider-Man.

You can't possibly believe Mandarin is anywhere near that level of chi.

There are scans in this thread and I recall seeing a scan of mandarin damaging iron mans armor so yes I think the mandarin is more powerful than iron fist.

#39 Posted by Charlie_Jade (523 posts) - 4 months, 3 days ago - Show Bio

Mandarin can do it, not sure about the new Spidey

#40 Posted by Bo88gdan (4126 posts) - 4 months, 3 days ago - Show Bio

Mandarin

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