#1 Edited by InFamous_Wolf (975 posts) - - Show Bio

Superior Spider-man vs Venom(Flash)

Location:New York

Bloodlust on

Standard gear

Win by K.O or Death

2 hour prep time

Venom:Current

Superior Spider-man:Current

VS

#2 Posted by laflux (15496 posts) - - Show Bio

The Prep slants things considerably in Otto's favor.

#3 Posted by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux said:

The Prep slants things considerably in Otto's favor.

#4 Posted by Shawnbaby (10669 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux said:

The Prep slants things considerably in Otto's favor makes this an utter stomp in Otto's favour

fixed.

#5 Posted by laflux (15496 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux said:

The Prep slants things considerably in Otto's favor makes this an utter stomp in Otto's favour

fixed.

1. I was trying to be pragmatic.

2. Saying SpOck stomps causes me physical pain.

Edit- I've seen you about the battle forum today. Your like @jedixman on speed. So forget I said anything............

#6 Posted by Raw_Material (3212 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-Ock wins. He nearly killed the Sinister Six and he was hardly blood-lusted at the time.

#7 Edited by Shawnbaby (10669 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux said:

@shawnbaby said:

@laflux said:

The Prep slants things considerably in Otto's favor makes this an utter stomp in Otto's favour

fixed.

1. I was trying to be pragmatic.

2. Saying SpOck stomps causes me physical pain.

Edit- I've seen you about the battle forum today. Your like @jedixman on speed. So forget I said anything............

Fear not... i have no cause to direct my wrath towards you this day, citizen.

But yeah, I usually don't like saying SpOck stomps either...although, in this situation, Peter would also stomp ...so I'm okay with it.

#8 Posted by Strider92 (16296 posts) - - Show Bio

With prep SpOck annihilates. He already knows Flash's weakness and has stupid amounts of resources at his disposal.

#9 Posted by JediXMan (30382 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux:

Was that a complement or an insult?

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#10 Posted by NICK31898 (2157 posts) - - Show Bio

SpOck loses, automatically, because he is stupid, and deserves to be shot in the head, with marshmellow gun, that shoots acid marshmellow, and then a baboon-walrus walks over,a nd takes a dump on his forhead, then eats him. With a fork.

#11 Posted by laflux (15496 posts) - - Show Bio

@jedixman said:

@laflux:

Was that a complement or an insult?

Statement of fact...........

#12 Edited by Thedarklordpandamonium (4825 posts) - - Show Bio

SpOck loses, automatically, because he is stupid, and deserves to be shot in the head, with marshmellow gun, that shoots acid marshmellow, and then a baboon-walrus walks over,a nd takes a dump on his forhead, then eats him. With a fork.

TRUE

#13 Posted by JediXMan (30382 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux said:

@jedixman said:

@laflux:

Was that a complement or an insult?

Statement of fact...........

Still wonder...

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#14 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux said:

The Prep slants things considerably in Otto's favor makes this an utter stomp in Otto's favour

fixed.

#15 Edited by laflux (15496 posts) - - Show Bio

@jedixman: You put trolls in their place.........

#16 Edited by JediXMan (30382 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux said:

@jedixman: You put trolls in their place.........

Complement, then.

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#17 Posted by Shawnbaby (10669 posts) - - Show Bio

@jedixman said:

@laflux said:

@jedixman: You put trolls in their place.........

Complement, then.

Yeah, I was on Trollwatch today :D

#18 Posted by ComicStooge (12595 posts) - - Show Bio

...I swear I'm the only person who really doesn't mind the fact Otto is Spider man.

#19 Edited by dondave (36663 posts) - - Show Bio

SpOck ftw

#20 Posted by dondave (36663 posts) - - Show Bio

...I swear I'm the only person who really doesn't mind the fact Otto is Spider man.

Agreed, I actually prefer him

#21 Edited by Shawnbaby (10669 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

@comicstooge said:

...I swear I'm the only person who really doesn't mind the fact Otto is Spider man.

Agreed, I actually prefer him

#22 Posted by GrandSymbiote94 (11654 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

@comicstooge said:

...I swear I'm the only person who really doesn't mind the fact Otto is Spider man.

Agreed, I actually prefer him

Well I guess I'm not the only one then. But I can't say I prefer him.

But back on topic this is a stomp in Ocks favor. Flash better be prepared for a street filled with sonic devices and gasoline.

#23 Posted by NICK31898 (2157 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

@comicstooge said:

...I swear I'm the only person who really doesn't mind the fact Otto is Spider man.

Agreed, I actually prefer him

So, you are saying that you'd rather have one of Peter's worst enemy, as him, than the beloved teenager, that has been on, since the 1960's?

.......loser.......

#24 Posted by frogdog (3246 posts) - - Show Bio

I saw a cover preview of spOck getting his ass kicked by venom. This pleases me

On topic: Gary-sue otto-man orders hell's kicken to be a new bombing ground

#25 Edited by InFamous_Wolf (975 posts) - - Show Bio

I feel that you guys are underestimating Venom. Flash has a wide range of weapons that can be used against spOck and has been military trained to use those weapons. Also if spOck tries to spam sonic weapons it will only piss off Flash and the symbiote more.You DO NOT want that.

He also has a high durability level at some point Toxin stabs Flash and the symbiote kept his body together .

So spOck does not stomp Venom easily. After this fight he might need to find his old body. lol

#26 Posted by acer51 (2235 posts) - - Show Bio

One word.

Sonics.

#27 Edited by i_like_swords (14021 posts) - - Show Bio

Flash does have a wider selection of natural abilities.

A few I can list off the top of my head are shapeshifting, tendrils, bladed tendrils, poison absorption.. probably more.

Also, doesn't the Venom symbiote have the advantage of not being able to be detected by Spider-Sense?

And then there's Vulking out. I don't think Flash gets stomped, necessarily.

#28 Edited by mrtrevorguy (1198 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords: the whole "vulking out" thing is stupid, it's the same as a normal venom, not much advantage

#29 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12334 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

@comicstooge said:

...I swear I'm the only person who really doesn't mind the fact Otto is Spider man.

Agreed, I actually prefer him

Me too.

#30 Posted by i_like_swords (14021 posts) - - Show Bio

@i_like_swords: the whole "vulking out" thing is stupid, it's the same as a normal venom, not much advantage

I wouldn't say it's stupid. It's another aspect of the fight that SpOck has to account for. Could his prep include enough to deal with both Flash AND his much scarier, but less elegant form?

#31 Posted by dondave (36663 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

@comicstooge said:

...I swear I'm the only person who really doesn't mind the fact Otto is Spider man.

Agreed, I actually prefer him

So, you are saying that you'd rather have one of Peter's worst enemy, as him, than the beloved teenager, that has been on, since the 1960's?

.......loser.......

Considering the first Spider-Man story I read was One More Day, I don't have a high opinion of Peter

#32 Posted by Shawnbaby (10669 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

@nick31898 said:

@dondave said:

@comicstooge said:

...I swear I'm the only person who really doesn't mind the fact Otto is Spider man.

Agreed, I actually prefer him

So, you are saying that you'd rather have one of Peter's worst enemy, as him, than the beloved teenager, that has been on, since the 1960's?

.......loser.......

Considering the first Spider-Man story I read was One More Day, I don't have a high opinion of Peter

That's a bad place to start...and a bad example of Peter Parker.

#33 Posted by DecoyElite (4019 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

Considering the first Spider-Man story I read was One More Day, I don't have a high opinion of Peter

Little unfair to judge a character based off a single story that most fans say he is out of character in.

#34 Edited by Cgoodness (4366 posts) - - Show Bio

With prep SpOck wins, but in a random encounter AV Stomps

#35 Posted by OmgOmgWtfWtf (7029 posts) - - Show Bio

Spock via something like this. Probably bigger and more deadly.

#36 Posted by dondave (36663 posts) - - Show Bio
#37 Posted by DecoyElite (4019 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: Okay then I assume it's not a morality thing given you like SpiderOck.

#38 Posted by laflux (15496 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

@nick31898 said:

@dondave said:

@comicstooge said:

...I swear I'm the only person who really doesn't mind the fact Otto is Spider man.

Agreed, I actually prefer him

So, you are saying that you'd rather have one of Peter's worst enemy, as him, than the beloved teenager, that has been on, since the 1960's?

.......loser.......

Considering the first Spider-Man story I read was One More Day, I don't have a high opinion of Peter

That's a bad place to start...and a bad example of Peter Parker.

Especially considering the Arc before OMD/BND, was Back in Black, which was rather good......

#39 Posted by ComicStooge (12595 posts) - - Show Bio

Well,I personally don't prefer Ock to Peter, but the change isn't permanent, so I'm enjoying it while it lasts. We've had 50 years of Peter. What's 1-2 years of Otto really gonna matter?

#40 Posted by oceanmaster21 (7918 posts) - - Show Bio

superior spiderman is my favorite spiderman and he def whoops flash venom or any symbiate for that matter

#41 Posted by InFamous_Wolf (975 posts) - - Show Bio

bump

#42 Posted by GraniteSoldier (7541 posts) - - Show Bio

The prep puts this in SpOcks favor, and it pains me to say so. Flash's prep feats really only apply to other symbiotes, so he can recognize and plan for an enemy with defined weaknesses, but Spider-Man has never had any. Flash doesn't set of SpOck's spider-sense, but SpOck has shown he can stupidly lay out a battlefield before a fight.

With prep, SpOck 9/10. This pains me because Flash is my absolute favorite character.

So I'll add this, without prep, Flash utterly obliterates. He pretty much beat up Peter (who is a far superior combatant to SpOck especially since SpOck doesn't have his memories anymore) and he wasn't only simply holding back he was actively fighting against his own symbiote. No prep Flash wins 9/10.

There, I feel better now. As for the Superior hate I'll always prefer Peter to Ock, obviously, but we all know the change isn't permanent so I'm enjoying the ride while it's there.

#43 Posted by InFamous_Wolf (975 posts) - - Show Bio

The prep puts this in SpOcks favor, and it pains me to say so. Flash's prep feats really only apply to other symbiotes, so he can recognize and plan for an enemy with defined weaknesses, but Spider-Man has never had any. Flash doesn't set of SpOck's spider-sense, but SpOck has shown he can stupidly lay out a battlefield before a fight.

With prep, SpOck 9/10. This pains me because Flash is my absolute favorite character.

So I'll add this, without prep, Flash utterly obliterates. He pretty much beat up Peter (who is a far superior combatant to SpOck especially since SpOck doesn't have his memories anymore) and he wasn't only simply holding back he was actively fighting against his own symbiote. No prep Flash wins 9/10.

There, I feel better now. As for the Superior hate I'll always prefer Peter to Ock, obviously, but we all know the change isn't permanent so I'm enjoying the ride while it's there.

Yeah I can see what you mean. I should have lowed the prep time now that I remember what SpOck did to Shadowland.

But on a 1 on 1 battle no prep time It would be way too unfair.

#44 Posted by GraniteSoldier (7541 posts) - - Show Bio

@granitesoldier said:

The prep puts this in SpOcks favor, and it pains me to say so. Flash's prep feats really only apply to other symbiotes, so he can recognize and plan for an enemy with defined weaknesses, but Spider-Man has never had any. Flash doesn't set of SpOck's spider-sense, but SpOck has shown he can stupidly lay out a battlefield before a fight.

With prep, SpOck 9/10. This pains me because Flash is my absolute favorite character.

So I'll add this, without prep, Flash utterly obliterates. He pretty much beat up Peter (who is a far superior combatant to SpOck especially since SpOck doesn't have his memories anymore) and he wasn't only simply holding back he was actively fighting against his own symbiote. No prep Flash wins 9/10.

There, I feel better now. As for the Superior hate I'll always prefer Peter to Ock, obviously, but we all know the change isn't permanent so I'm enjoying the ride while it's there.

Yeah I can see what you mean. I should have lowed the prep time now that I remember what SpOck did to Shadowland.

But on a 1 on 1 battle no prep time It would be way too unfair.

It's the nature of the beast sometimes. Fights are determined by their randomness or preparation. Some characters become monstrous with it, and it swings fights heavily in your favor. If this was a just round fight (one with prep the other without) then it'd show the balance a little more, but it's not a big deal either way. Except I had to admit that Venom loses because of that prep haha.