@jashro44 said:
@uberhikari said:
What is wrong with the Spider-Man wanking in this thread? Speedblitz only works if you can overcome the durability of the person you're speedblitzing. Spider-Man will NEVER hurt Luke Cage. And I very seriously doubt either version of Spider-Man could hurt Iron Fist. This is either a stalemate or Team 2 wins.
Peter knows pressure points. Luke Cage has felt pressure points from black panther. Peter is several times stronger then black panther. Cage goes down. And why do you think iron fist is too durable? Peter has all ready shown he can hurt iron fist.
This is just PIS garbage. Luke Cage is supposed to have unbreakable skin. And he has the feats to back it up: having c4 on his body blowing up and him not being harmed, taking class 100 hits, etc. Even if someone knew where the nerves on his body were they shouldn't be able to hit him hard enough to do damage or incapacitate him. Nerve strikes is just Marvel's way of allowing street level characters to bypass superhuman durability that they're not supposed to be able to. I mean does Luke Cage's superhuman durability not extent to his pressure points? lol
It happens consistently because marvel writers believe the whole point of Pressure points is that they are suppossed to bypass Durability and countless showing show this, such as Mister Hyde (who >> Luke Cage) being Pressure pointed by Daredevil, Wolverine taking down the Rock of the Buddha, Wolverine taking down Kid Gladiator (who is >> Luke Cage). Its not like its the first time its happened to Luke Cage either, in his earlier days, he was temporarily downed by a no name female martial artist. Its something which is replicated in DC with skilled Characters too. And why shouldn't it happen? Just because you don't want it to doesn't mean it should be lazily dumped as PIS.
Furthermore your saying this, as if Luke Cage is massively over street-level when he is quite clearly not, and has been depicted and labelled as such numerous times. IIRC correctly, in Shadowland and Civil War he is even called a street level hero. For the times he has tanked Class 100 foes, he's also fought evenly against the likes of Bullet, Scorpion (Hell he was even punked by Scorpion), Rhino and Spider-Man. Those names don't really scream mid tier powerhouse plus to me. And against the 100 tonners, it not like he ever had a chance against them
And as a final point, Ironicially, Luke Cage's invunerablility doesn't extend to his Nerve clusters and Pressure points. Its been mentioned both in Bio's and on Panel (Most importantly), that his invunerability is only skin deep, so his internal organs, and structure is prone to damage.
To be honest, saying Luke Cage gets downed by a Pressure point is being overly generous. Spider-Man in his league physically, and although his punches won't do as much damage to Cage as vice versa, Peter and SpOck have enough physical striking feats to show that he can be worn down enough with standard strikes, while if any of the Spider-Men are remotely serious, Cage isn't going to touch them. What make it worse is that SpOck has webbing specifially designed to hold down guys with Superhuman Strength, so Cage could very well just be incapped and become a massive punching bag.
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