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#1 Posted by Nighthunter (28578 posts) - - Show Bio

#2 Posted by weather witch (3188 posts) - - Show Bio

id say supergirl

#3 Posted by Nighthunter (28578 posts) - - Show Bio

weather witch says:

"id say supergirl"

because.....

#4 Posted by Vance Astro (91071 posts) - - Show Bio

I wanna go with Donna because I know she is the more skilled fighter but I don't know the difference in thier strength and durability.

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#5 Posted by weather witch (3188 posts) - - Show Bio

because she kicks a$$ and all ive ever heard of donna troy is she a less powerful version of wonder woman

#6 Posted by Nighthunter (28578 posts) - - Show Bio

weather witch says:

"because she kicks a$$ and all ive ever heard of donna troy is she a less powerful version of wonder woman"

supergirl is a less powerfull version of Superman.....

I'm not declaring a winner, just saying

#7 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't think Donny Troy would stand a chance against Supergirl. Donna may have all of the superhuman abilities of Wonder Woman (the strength, speed, flight, endurance, durability, etc.), I don't think they are at the same level. I think Donna is weaker than Wonder Woman. Therefore, being weaker that Supergirl, a Kryptonian. Supergirl has all of the abilities of Superman. And, is still learning how to hold back her strength a bit because of how powerful she is. And, she's already faster than Superman, claiming that she 'outflew' him when she was talking to Power Boy at the time.

In a nutshell, Supergirl outclasses her.

#8 Posted by danhimself (22223 posts) - - Show Bio

supergirl is really bada$$ but donna's got the experience and is also really bada$$ so i give this to donna

#9 Posted by weather witch (3188 posts) - - Show Bio

Nighthunter says:

"weather witch says:
"because she kicks a$$ and all ive ever heard of donna troy is she a less powerful version of wonder woman"
supergirl is a less powerfull version of Superman..... I'm not declaring a winner, just saying"

but superman is stronger then wonder woman so supergirl is probley more powerful then donna troy....jus sayin

#10 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - - Show Bio

Vance Astro says:

"I wanna go with Donna because I know she is the more skilled fighterbut I don't know the difference in thier strength and durability."

Donna is a lot weaker than Supergirl. She's not even as strong as Wonder Woman.

#11 Posted by Vance Astro (91071 posts) - - Show Bio

Static Shock says:

"I don't think Donny Troy would stand a chance against Supergirl. Donna may have all of the superhuman abilities of Wonder Woman (the strength, speed, flight, endurance, durability, etc.), I don't think they are at the same level. I think Donna is weaker than Wonder Woman. Therefore, being weaker that Supergirl, a Kryptonian. Supergirl has all of the abilities of Superman. And, is still learning how to hold back her strength a bit because of how powerful she is. And, she's already faster than Superman, claiming that she 'outflew' him when she was talking to Power Boy at the time. In a nutshell, Supergirl outclasses her."

Supergirl is faster than Supes?

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#12 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - - Show Bio

weather witch says:

"but superman is stronger then wonder woman so supergirl is probley more powerful then donna troy....jus sayin"

According to Blue Beetle's analysis (During OMAC, I think), Superman and Wonder Woman are in the strength class A. I guess that implies that they are on the same level of strength.

#13 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - - Show Bio

Vance Astro says:

"Supergirl is faster than Supes? "

She said it herself, that she outflew him. Take it as a yes.

#14 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - - Show Bio

Nighthunter says:

"Static Shock says:
"And, she's already faster than Superman, claiming that she 'outflew' him when she was talking to Power Boy at the time"

" />http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/2000/1807/56883-superman_400.jpg"

Hmmm..... Aight, but she still outclasses Donna.
Post Edited:2008-04-02 20:43:32

#15 Posted by Vance Astro (91071 posts) - - Show Bio

Nighthunter says:

"Static Shock says:
"And, she's already faster than Superman, claiming that she 'outflew' him when she was talking to Power Boy at the time"
" />http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/item/2000/1807/56883-superman_400.jpg"

Damn.

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#16 Posted by Nighthunter (28578 posts) - - Show Bio

Static Shock says:

"And, she's already faster than Superman, claiming that she 'outflew' him when she was talking to Power Boy at the time"

#17 Posted by Nighthunter (28578 posts) - - Show Bio

Static Shock says:

"Vance Astro says:
"Supergirl is faster than Supes? "

She said it herself, that she outflew him. Take it as a yes."

look above lol

#18 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

superman's above supergirl in everything, but supergirl's above donna in everything except experience and maybe technique but that's not gonna be enough to help donna

#19 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - - Show Bio

Nighthunter says:

"Besides Supergirl was almost beaten by Batgirl...."

Because she had red sun energy swords, making it easier for her. Without them, Supergirl would have easily splattered (literally) her against the wall.

#20 Posted by zee crusher (8997 posts) - - Show Bio

Supergirl is stronger then superman. This is stated when supergirl asked why she was stronger then superman. He stated that he was always holding back. Supergirl is only stronger then superman when he holds back. Although she can't take hits very well. Doomsday punched her once she was out cold he had to hit superman a few good times.

Either way Donna is superman if she were at the age of 5 supergirl takes this. Its always been shown donna can take down beings like kalibak.

#21 Posted by Nighthunter (28578 posts) - - Show Bio

weather witch says:

"Nighthunter says:
"weather witch says:
"because she kicks a$$ and all ive ever heard of donna troy is she a less powerful version of wonder woman"
supergirl is a less powerfull version of Superman..... I'm not declaring a winner, just saying"

but superman is stronger then wonder woman so supergirl is probley more powerful then donna troy....jus sayin"

really don't know who is stronger, or more powerfull

Superman has beaten Wonder Woman

Wonder Woman has beaten Superman

I don't think that compairing them with their mentors will lead us anywhere.....

Besides Supergirl was almost beaten by Batgirl....

#22 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

zee crusher says:

"Supergirl is stronger then superman. This is stated when supergirl asked why she was stronger then superman. He stated that he was always holding back. Supergirl is only stronger then superman when he holds back. Although she can't take hits very well. Doomsday punched her once she was out cold he had to hit superman a few good times. Either way Donna is superman if she were at the age of 5 supergirl takes this. Its always been shown donna can take down beings like kalibak."

youre saying superman's stronger than supergirl because she only looks stronger than him because he always holds back so much right? you confused me a little with the beginning of your post :)

#23 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - - Show Bio

Apparition says:

"youre saying superman's stronger than supergirl because she only looksstronger than him because he always holds back so much right? youconfused me a little with the beginning of your post :)"

You must have forgotten who he was. LOL.

#24 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - - Show Bio

Are you saying that Donna wins?

zee crusher says:

"Itsalways been shown donna can take down beings like kalibak."

Dude, who hasn't beaten Kalibak!? Even if Donna defeated him (who has been beaten by Superman countless times, was beaten by Firestorm and a couple of others), what doesn that prove? Are you saying that Supergirl couldn't beat Kalibak either?

#25 Posted by zee crusher (8997 posts) - - Show Bio

Static Shock says:

"Are you saying that Donna wins?zee crusher says:
"Itsalways been shown donna can take down beings like kalibak."

Dude, who hasn't beaten Kalibak!? Even if Donna defeated him (who has been beaten by Superman countless times, was beaten by Firestorm and a couple of others), what doesn that prove? Are you saying that Supergirl couldn't beat Kalibak either?"

No I just wanted to bring that up for no reason. It doesn't have anything to do with the right really it was just a random post. Supergirl would crush kalibak. Kalibak is like ulik basically.

Apparition says:

"zee crusher says:
"Supergirl is stronger then superman. This is stated when supergirl asked why she was stronger then superman. He stated that he was always holding back. Supergirl is only stronger then superman when he holds back. Although she can't take hits very well. Doomsday punched her once she was out cold he had to hit superman a few good times. Either way Donna is superman if she were at the age of 5 supergirl takes this. Its always been shown donna can take down beings like kalibak."

youre saying superman's stronger than supergirl because she only looks stronger than him because he always holds back so much right? you confused me a little with the beginning of your post :)"

No in one comic she asked superman why she is stronger. Thats the same first comic where he told everybody that read his comic hes always holding back that if he isn't he's stronger then she is. I was saying this cause people forgot this and were saying the wrong idea.

#26 Posted by Nighthunter (28578 posts) - - Show Bio

Ok before someone says it; I also think that Supergirl wins. Was looking for an answer that didn't involve comparing them with their mentors.

First things first:

Supergirl is not stronger than Superman, neither faster. She just can't control her strength because while Superman started to become more powerfull with the ages he started to be more careful, it has been established time after time that Superman never fights at full strength, neither fly as fast as he can because he could kill someone if he did.

In terms of Strength and Speed I would put Supergirl above

In terms of experience and fighting ability this is Donna's field

I'm not giving Supergirl the victory because of her strength or speed, I'm giving it to her because of the crystal shard she has.....

If Donna had a magic lasso she could win this tough, wondergirl (cassie) was able to hold Supergirl with one so I don't see why Donna couldn't if she had one
Post Edited:2008-04-02 21:05:07

#27 Posted by King Saturn (223745 posts) - - Show Bio

Supergirl would win here. Donny Troy maybe the better overall fighter but Kara's Super Strength, Speed and Durability exceeds what Donna has. Gotta go with Supergirl for the win.

#28 Posted by Nighthunter (28578 posts) - - Show Bio

Static Shock says:

"Nighthunter says:
"If Donna had a magic lasso she could win this tough, wondergirl (cassie) was able to hold Supergirl with one so I don't see why Donna couldn't if she had one"

Yeah, well what if Supergirl blitzes her and takes the lasso from Donna? Then what?"

I said could and hold lol

meant that the lasso could level the fight, not that it would mean the win of Donna

#29 Posted by zee crusher (8997 posts) - - Show Bio

Static Shock says:

"Apparition says:
"youre saying superman's stronger than supergirl because she only looksstronger than him because he always holds back so much right? youconfused me a little with the beginning of your post :)"

You must have forgotten who he was. LOL. "

Whats the suppose to mean??

#30 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - - Show Bio

zee crusher says:

"Whats the suppose to mean??"

Exactly what it says. I mean no disrespect, but sometimes you confuse the hell outta me. Real talk.

#31 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - - Show Bio

Nighthunter says:

"If Donna had a magic lasso she could win this tough, wondergirl (cassie) was able to hold Supergirl with one so I don't see why Donna couldn't if she had one"

Yeah, well what if Supergirl blitzes her and takes the lasso from Donna? Then what?

#32 Posted by zee crusher (8997 posts) - - Show Bio

Static Shock says:

"zee crusher says:
"Whats the suppose to mean??"

Exactly what it says. I mean no disrespect, but sometimes you confuse the hell outta me. Real talk."

I see.

#33 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - - Show Bio

Nighthunter says:

"I said *could* and *hold* lolmeant that the lasso could level the fight, not that it would mean the win of Donna"

Aight. LOL.

#34 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

Nighthunter says:

"Supergirl is not stronger than Superman, neither faster. She just can't control her strength because while Superman started to become more powerfull with the ages he started to be more careful, it has been established time after time that Superman never fights at full strength, neither fly as fast as he can because he could kill someone if he did."

I agree with everything there...

Nighthunter says:

"In terms of Strength and Speed I would put Supergirl above"

I agree completely... Supergirl is a hell of a lot stronger and faster than Donna Troy, she's also 'tougher', where as Donna's skin isn't invulnerable, Supergirl's is...

Nighthunter says:

"In terms of experience and fighting ability this is Donna's field"

True... experience is the only thing that Donna has going for her, but that isn't going to help her if Supergirl decides to go for the kill

Super Speed + Super strength + Amazon Training in how to fight / kill = dead Donna

Nighthunter says:

"If Donna had a magic lasso she could win this tough, wondergirl (cassie) was able to hold Supergirl with one so I don't see why Donna couldn't if she had one"

this is true... Wonder Girl was able to hold Supergirl with it for about two seconds before Supergirl took the lasso off her and garroted her with it...

but that's irrelevant since Donna Troy doesn't have a lasso lol

sorry, this is so badly Supergirl's fight, it's almost a curb stomp...

against Linda Danvers Supergirl, Donna might have at least had a chance... against current Supergirl, Matrix, Earth Angel or Original Kara, this is just a horrible mismatch.

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#35 Posted by Alpha (7322 posts) - - Show Bio

IS Wonder Woman stronger than Supergirl? If so, How much more is she? And how much less is Donna Troy than Wonder Woman, since she is a weaker version.

#36 Posted by Methos (40103 posts) - - Show Bio

unsure...

we haven't seen anything to say yes or no...

Supergirl is still an unknown quantity, as Kryptonite doesn't affect her... we still don't know what she is / isn't capable of...

M

#37 Posted by Hyperion322 (112 posts) - - Show Bio

Supergirl may very well be more powerful than Donna, but the Amazon has been trained by both the Amazons and Titans of Myth, plus her years of experience give her a serious edge over the Girl of Steel.

Donna Troy wins!

~ Hype

#38 Posted by King Saturn (223745 posts) - - Show Bio
I still think Supergirl wins in a great battle
#39 Posted by Mercy_ (92257 posts) - - Show Bio

Kara takes it.

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#40 Posted by charlieboy (7151 posts) - - Show Bio

the girl of steel ftw.
#41 Posted by Silver2467 (16527 posts) - - Show Bio
@The Dark Huntress said:
" Kara takes it. "
#42 Posted by Static Shock (47330 posts) - - Show Bio

Supergirl.

#43 Posted by deathlife (493 posts) - - Show Bio

Supergirl one-shotted Donna very,very recently in JLA.
 
Based on that panel, i think she might actually stomp Donna.

#44 Posted by LuckKid27 (15 posts) - - Show Bio

Well Donna Troy has deflected Heat Vision before so i dont think Heat Vision will held Supergirl win this fight at all :(

#45 Posted by max4523 (83 posts) - - Show Bio

when did supergirl ever 1 shot donna

#46 Edited by Pokeysteve (7935 posts) - - Show Bio

Donna has nothing to put her on Supergirl's level. She's one of those characters that gets talked up without really having done anything.

Edit: The proof of that is how there is more talk about Wonder Woman's abilities than Donna's.

#47 Posted by justice teen (432 posts) - - Show Bio

@pokeysteve: Pokeysteve is right Donna character has never been fully develop. Writers always make her the support character never strong enough to handle the situation own her, but strong enough to have an impact. To get a true analysis of her strength you have to put her in a situation where she is on her own. Till then Supergirl has the feats to justify her victory.

#48 Posted by dondave (33593 posts) - - Show Bio

Supergirl

#49 Edited by Pokeysteve (7935 posts) - - Show Bio

@pokeysteve: Pokeysteve is right Donna character has never been fully develop. Writers always make her the support character never strong enough to handle the situation own her, but strong enough to have an impact. To get a true analysis of her strength you have to put her in a situation where she is on her own. Till then Supergirl has the feats to justify her victory.

Agreed and well said.

#50 Posted by justice teen (432 posts) - - Show Bio

@pokeysteve: Of course in theory Donna would win seeing as how the titans gave her powers to her, and the Olympians gave wonder woman her powers. The titans were so strong the Olympians couldn't beat them alone, they needed help from Gaea's other children. With that being said it stands to reason that Donna whose powers cam from the titans and became one should be far more powerful than Wonder Woman who is stronger than supergirl. Of course like I said earlier Donna has not shown feats to support this, but given the information we already have her victory is still supported.