with zeus's lightning, since she can channel the force that activates Adam's powers through her bracers (cus ive heard that before, or maybe it was with billy).
Or if that isn't it just hold him with the lasso and make him say it...
If this is normal Sentry without the void, Team 1 has the better chance of succeeding. Every combatant on team one is easily on the level of Black Adam and Sentry might even be slightly weaker than that level of physicality. Diana holds the easiest advantage with her combat speed and skill over both her opponents. Adding in both Supergirl and Powergirl and making them blood-lusted allow them to easily take on Sentry and overrun him while Diana works on Adam. She could easily hold her own against him and possibly defeat him but in the chance that she doesn't, she'd have almost definite back-up from both Kara's.
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Supergirl is weak against magic so BA can take her down and sentry can hold off Wonder Woman and powergirl than BA can come and help sentry take them down.
If before people said Thor The God Of Thunder & Lightning couldn't do that to Black Adam, what makes you think Wonder Woman can ?
Because Thor : the God of thunder doesnt have a lasso , which he could warp around Black Adam and ask whats the source of your power, compelling him to yell shazam.
also Thor not being able to depower Black Adam sounds weird. Marvels have been vulnerable to lightning as well long distance teleportation, both of which Thor can do and both would depower Black Adam.
If before people said Thor The God Of Thunder & Lightning couldn't do that to Black Adam, what makes you think Wonder Woman can ?
Because Thor : the God of thunder doesnt have a lasso , which he could warp around Black Adam and ask whats the source of your power, compelling him to yell shazam.
also Thor not being able to depower Black Adam sounds weird. Marvels have been vulnerable to lightning as well long distance teleportation, both of which Thor can do and both would depower Black Adam.
In all honesty,I think the females win easy.Now while Black Adam can certainly fight anyone one of the females on the team,Sentry can not.He goes down hard and fast unless he can go void.And the op doesnt say if he can.Any of the females speed is TOO much for Sentry.And Wonder Woman has all her lasso etc unless I'm wrong.And I hate to see BA lose because thats my boy.A sad day....lol
If before people said Thor The God Of Thunder & Lightning couldn't do that to Black Adam, what makes you think Wonder Woman can ?
Because Thor : the God of thunder doesnt have a lasso , which he could warp around Black Adam and ask whats the source of your power, compelling him to yell shazam.
also Thor not being able to depower Black Adam sounds weird. Marvels have been vulnerable to lightning as well long distance teleportation, both of which Thor can do and both would depower Black Adam.
Sorry to quote an older post like this but I don't think it's just straight lighting that changes him back. Wouldn't he be afraid to fly or even be outside in a storm than?
With that, people probably don't think Thor can change him back because it isn't "Zeus'" lighting. And Wonder Woman's lighting was never shown to be able to do that (to my knowledge) and it's not really fair to assume that it would.
Last thing, Wonder Woman was unable to Lasso Billy so there is a good chance she won't be able to catch BA right away. If she eventually does though that should work with his magic word.
In all honesty,I think the females win easy.Now while Black Adam can certainly fight anyone one of the females on the team,Sentry can not.He goes down hard and fast unless he can go void.And the op doesnt say if he can.Any of the females speed is TOO much for Sentry.And Wonder Woman has all her lasso etc unless I'm wrong.And I hate to see BA lose because thats my boy.A sad day....lol
I pretty much agree with this. Overall, Black Adam is the most powerful being in this battle, and Sentry IMO, is the weakest. Black Adam is not so far over the ladies that he makes up for having a poor ally. I'd agree that the Void would be a different animal in this fight, however, not to the extent many seem to think, imo. He is still more hype the feats.
Sorry to quote an older post like this but I don't think it's just straight lighting that changes him back. Wouldn't he be afraid to fly or even be outside in a storm than?
With that, people probably don't think Thor can change him back because it isn't "Zeus'" lighting. And Wonder Woman's lighting was never shown to be able to do that (to my knowledge) and it's not really fair to assume that it would.
I have actually seen Captain Marvel be transformed into mere mortal with normal lightning, that had no connection with Shazam or Zues lightning. I had a post on Discuss and Debunk a feat with a viner relating to the same topic, just copy pasting what i stated there.
Contrary to what i have seen people state, Captain Marvel can and has been de-powered by normal lightning.
Power of Shazam 20: This is a part of Final Night Story arc, and you can see Billy turned human once hit by normal lightning. He then turns back to Captain Marvel after he yell shazam .
Superman Beyond 01: This is a part of Final Crisis story arc, where you know the whole Cosmic Armor Superman story happens. Superman and Captain Marvel try and successfully lift the book of infinite pages, but as a backlash, a lightning comes out of the book, which not only turns Captain Marvel back to Billy but also knocks him out
Power of Shazam 14: This is NOT Captain Marvel but rather Captain Marvel Junior (just wanted to make sure you dont feel like i am trying to mislead you) and he is turned back to normal human after hit by Chain Lightning's well lightning. The reason i am presenting this despite Captain Marvel Jr and Captain Marvel not being the same person is because while they power level is different the source of their powers are similar.
I for one dont see why Wonder Woman's or Thor's lightning wouldnt be able to transform him back.
Why isnt is scared to fly or even be outside in a storm, perhaps it takes a pretty powerful lightning to change him back, in Power of Shazam 14, Captain Marvel Jr initially resists a blast from Chain Lightning, when he gets hit later by a sufficiently more powerful lightning he is turned into a mortal.
Last thing, Wonder Woman was unable to Lasso Billy so there is a good chance she won't be able to catch BA right away. If she eventually does though that should work with his magic word.
Assuming you are talking about War of The Gods, Billy evaded it first got caught in it later while distracted. Also given her combat speed and a several lack of speed feat thereof for Billy/ Black Adam i think Wonder Woman, fighting to the best of her ability should have a good chance to do so.
Not contesting the fact that Black Adam is physically superior to Wonder Woman, but she seems more inapt in the act of fighting, pretty fast in a combat scenario seeing how once serious Power Girl completely fails to even tag and ever of her punches are either easily evaded or blocked by Wonder Woman. I think she does have that edge over Black Adam.
I have actually seen Captain Marvel be transformed into mere mortal with normal lightning, that had no connection with Shazam or Zues lightning. I had a post on Discuss and Debunk a feat with a viner relating to the same topic, just copy pasting what i stated there. Contrary to what i have seen people state, Captain Marvel can and has been de-powered by normal lightning.
Wow. I think I just lost a little respect for Cap Marvel lol. Nice scans. Do you have these cataloged or what hahaha
Assuming you are talking about War of The Gods, Billy evaded it first got caught in it later while distracted. Also given her combat speed and a several lack of speed feat thereof for Billy/ Black Adam i think Wonder Woman, fighting to the best of her ability should have a good chance to do so. Not contesting the fact that Black Adam is physically superior to Wonder Woman, but she seems more inapt in the act of fighting, pretty fast in a combat scenario seeing how once serious Power Girl completely fails to even tag and ever of her punches are either easily evaded or blocked by Wonder Woman. I think she does have that edge over Black Adam.
Yup War of the Gods. I don't think BA will be as easily distracted but I also agree with you in that WW's speed and skill should be enough hold him at the very least. She's evaded Superman pretty easily as well. We're on the same page again.
Wow. I think I just lost a little respect for Cap Marvel lol. Nice scans. Do you have these cataloged or what hahaha
To make you lose respect for Captain Marvel certainly wasn't my intention but lol will take that as a complement.
I got my hands on a digital trade paperback collection of Power of Shazam series a while back, which was about 600 pages and i have carefully saved few important feats in my hard-disk. The other scan with Superman is from Final Crisis and i have read/ collected feats from most of DC major events. I actually have a much bigger collection of Marvel comics with me, recently finished reading most of Adam Warlock's appearance and just made a chronology list of his feats on Warlock Forum, now i am reading Dr. Strange's complete chronology which will take me quite a few weeks i think it has 1168 appearances and i have finished only 47 of them since yesterday.
Yup War of the Gods. I don't think BA will be as easily distracted but I also agree with you in that WW's speed and skill should be enough hold him at the very least. She's evaded Superman pretty easily as well. We're on the same page again.
Obviously Team 1.....for reasons already stated, I could go into an old thread and bring up why Diana beats Teth 1v1, Powergirl and Supergirl can handle Bob due to speed and strength advantages....
Sorry to quote an older post like this but I don't think it's just straight lighting that changes him back. Wouldn't he be afraid to fly or even be outside in a storm than?
With that, people probably don't think Thor can change him back because it isn't "Zeus'" lighting. And Wonder Woman's lighting was never shown to be able to do that (to my knowledge) and it's not really fair to assume that it would.
I have actually seen Captain Marvel be transformed into mere mortal with normal lightning, that had no connection with Shazam or Zues lightning. I had a post on Discuss and Debunk a feat with a viner relating to the same topic, just copy pasting what i stated there.
Contrary to what i have seen people state, Captain Marvel can and has been de-powered by normal lightning.
Power of Shazam 20: This is a part of Final Night Story arc, and you can see Billy turned human once hit by normal lightning. He then turns back to Captain Marvel after he yell shazam .
Superman Beyond 01: This is a part of Final Crisis story arc, where you know the whole Cosmic Armor Superman story happens. Superman and Captain Marvel try and successfully lift the book of infinite pages, but as a backlash, a lightning comes out of the book, which not only turns Captain Marvel back to Billy but also knocks him out
Power of Shazam 14: This is NOT Captain Marvel but rather Captain Marvel Junior (just wanted to make sure you dont feel like i am trying to mislead you) and he is turned back to normal human after hit by Chain Lightning's well lightning. The reason i am presenting this despite Captain Marvel Jr and Captain Marvel not being the same person is because while they power level is different the source of their powers are similar.
I for one dont see why Wonder Woman's or Thor's lightning wouldnt be able to transform him back.
Why isnt is scared to fly or even be outside in a storm, perhaps it takes a pretty powerful lightning to change him back, in Power of Shazam 14, Captain Marvel Jr initially resists a blast from Chain Lightning, when he gets hit later by a sufficiently more powerful lightning he is turned into a mortal.
Last thing, Wonder Woman was unable to Lasso Billy so there is a good chance she won't be able to catch BA right away. If she eventually does though that should work with his magic word.
Assuming you are talking about War of The Gods, Billy evaded it first got caught in it later while distracted. Also given her combat speed and a several lack of speed feat thereof for Billy/ Black Adam i think Wonder Woman, fighting to the best of her ability should have a good chance to do so.
Not contesting the fact that Black Adam is physically superior to Wonder Woman, but she seems more inapt in the act of fighting, pretty fast in a combat scenario seeing how once serious Power Girl completely fails to even tag and ever of her punches are either easily evaded or blocked by Wonder Woman. I think she does have that edge over Black Adam.
Wonder Woman does not have an edge on Black Adam. The guy has been shown to hold his own withCaptain Marvel & Superman at the same time, who are both superior to Wonder Woman. Fought the JSA, and was winning. In a one on one fight against Black Adam, Wonder Woman would get thrashed, like pretty much everyone who fights Black Adam. But if the Power Girl & Super Girl hold off Black Adam, until Wonder Woman finishes off Sentry, than they can all tripple team Black Adam, and win. ( Sentry was never that powerful, without the Void )Woman FTW !
I just don't think Marvel characters are written to be on the same level as DC. You can make some arguments about the goofy powers Mjolnir can give thor, or Silver Surfer's feats, but guys like Sentry just can't compete against a Wonder Woman or a Supergirl.
People will argue Hulk will get destroyed by Superman, but someone who goes toe to toe with Hulk will handle a slightly inferior Superman? Yeah.... no.
@jeanroygrant: Adam's held his own against the two of them but has still lost to just Billy. Diana has skill and reaction time above all three of them. That's her edge.
Wonder Woman does not have an edge on Black Adam. The guy has been shown to hold his own withCaptain Marvel & Superman at the same time, who are both superior to Wonder Woman. Fought the JSA, and was winning. In a one on one fight against Black Adam, Wonder Woman would get thrashed, like pretty much everyone who fights Black Adam. But if the Power Girl & Super Girl hold off Black Adam, until Wonder Woman finishes off Sentry, than they can all tripple team Black Adam, and win. ( Sentry was never that powerful, without the Void )Woman FTW !
I think you misunderstood me, when i said she has an edge over Black Adam, i meant in terms of skill and reaction time. Black Adam has struggled against Superman alone as well, so as he struggled against Captain Marvel alone. So as long as she finds a way to not get into h2h i think she will do well, she seems faster as well as more skilled.
anyone who has read seige knows how powerful Sentry can be (and I must say it didn't even look like he was stressing himself) if it's normal sentry or not (void is involved) and I think the two of them win this fight. Black Adam and WW would duel and Sentry could not only go toe to toe with the ladies but if he's allowed his Molecular manipulation he could do some damage. This is the same guy who took one of Thors best shots and just happened to rip more than a few people in half (including a god). I think of the two teams Adam and Sentry have tasted blood and have no problem taking it to that point while the female team I don't think is as blood thirsty.
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