#1 Posted by Pistolwhip1 (856 posts) - - Show Bio
 
 
 
Fight takes place in Space.  
Superboy Prime doesn't have his armor.  
Superman has been in the sun for a day.  
Winner by Death or KO.  
Morals off.  
#2 Posted by termiteone4ever (8303 posts) - - Show Bio

Sundip supes is not going to lose to Prime lol

#3 Posted by baron2011 (1155 posts) - - Show Bio

@termiteone4ever said:

Sundip supes is not going to lose to Prime lol

what?

prime beats the shit out of post crisis superman sundip or no sundip

#4 Posted by termiteone4ever (8303 posts) - - Show Bio

@baron2011 said:

@termiteone4ever said:

Sundip supes is not going to lose to Prime lol

what?

prime beats the shit out of post crisis superman sundip or no sundip

Not in this life time. Sundipped supes for one day isnt losing to Prime. I dont think he will be holding back too much. A sundip supes should be enough

#5 Posted by thanobomb1124 (2021 posts) - - Show Bio
@termiteone4ever

@baron2011 said:

@termiteone4ever said:

Sundip supes is not going to lose to Prime lol

what?

prime beats the shit out of post crisis superman sundip or no sundip

Not in this life time. Sundipped supes for one day isnt losing to Prime. I dont think he will be holding back too much. A sundip supes should be enough

Superboy prime. Wins
#6 Posted by thanobomb1124 (2021 posts) - - Show Bio

Coz hes a cry baby

#7 Posted by termiteone4ever (8303 posts) - - Show Bio

@thanobomb1124 said:

@termiteone4ever

@baron2011 said:

@termiteone4ever said:

Sundip supes is not going to lose to Prime lol

what?

prime beats the shit out of post crisis superman sundip or no sundip

Not in this life time. Sundipped supes for one day isnt losing to Prime. I dont think he will be holding back too much. A sundip supes should be enough

Superboy prime. Wins

Not at all . Supes got This

#8 Posted by LONGTIME (923 posts) - - Show Bio

Superboy Prime and it's not even close.

#9 Posted by alcoholbob (1192 posts) - - Show Bio

Sundip for a millenia maybe.

#10 Posted by HolySerpent (12927 posts) - - Show Bio

Prime wins

#11 Posted by King Saturn (225699 posts) - - Show Bio
Just out of curiousity... how much would Superman's physical attributes increase from a day being Sundipped ? Double ? Triple ? 
#12 Posted by Pistolwhip1 (856 posts) - - Show Bio
@King Saturn said:
Just out of curiousity... how much would Superman's physical attributes increase from a day being Sundipped ? Double ? Triple ? 
Well here are some things I found. Not sure if ABC logic would work in this situation. 
 
Post-Crisis Superman had to have help moving a planet.  
 
 
 
 
 
versus Prime who can push them around easily. 
 
 
 
 
 
Then you have Post-Crisis Superman who was sundipped.  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
#13 Edited by baron2011 (1155 posts) - - Show Bio

@termiteone4ever said:

@thanobomb1124 said:

@termiteone4ever

@baron2011 said:

@termiteone4ever said:

Sundip supes is not going to lose to Prime lol

what?

prime beats the shit out of post crisis superman sundip or no sundip

Not in this life time. Sundipped supes for one day isnt losing to Prime. I dont think he will be holding back too much. A sundip supes should be enough

Superboy prime. Wins

Not at all . Supes got This

this is stupid

superman has limits.he can stay whatever he wants in the sun,he is not getting on prime's or sa supermans level

prime wins

#14 Posted by Superskrull86 (1806 posts) - - Show Bio

Prime.

#15 Posted by Erik (33327 posts) - - Show Bio

I do not think it is as one sided as many think. 2 Supermen of Pre-DCNU levels were able to scratch a win out of it and they were not even sun dipped.

#16 Posted by venomoushatred1001 (12273 posts) - - Show Bio

@termiteone4ever said:

Sundip supes is not going to lose to Prime lol

This. Prime got beat up by the Titans recently.

#17 Posted by termiteone4ever (8303 posts) - - Show Bio

@Pistolwhip1:

Now i can argue the planet pushing and pulling. Now Superboy doesnt really care about destruction. With the three of them pulling the planet its a good feat but its not enough to say who is pulling most of it . Now as for the green lantern feat Hal only created a harness that how they combine thier Power. Plus the planet was been pulled so thats proved that he can Pull it alone . Does it look like HAL Jordan was pulling the planet ?

NOw the time wasnt stated How long he was dipped for but it wasnt no day. Thats more than enough power to pull off anything . It would be rather difficult for even prime to take him on in this stage .

@Erik said:

I do not think it is as one sided as many think. 2 Supermen of Pre-DCNU levels were able to scratch a win out of it and they were not even sun dipped.

My point exactly

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@termiteone4ever said:

Sundip supes is not going to lose to Prime lol

This. Prime got beat up by the Titans recently.

Now i am not sure how the Titans pull off that but i need to read those issues i might have to look into that . They must have had prep or his history weakness something . Do you have scans how they whooped him ? i wonder if it was writers error ?

#18 Posted by JediXMan (31590 posts) - - Show Bio
@Erik said:

I do not think it is as one sided as many think. 2 Supermen of Pre-DCNU levels were able to scratch a win out of it and they were not even sun dipped.

I'm assuming you mean from Infinite Crisis. Not really fair. They had the benefit of pulling Prime through a red sun.
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#19 Edited by Erik (33327 posts) - - Show Bio

@JediXMan said:

@Erik said:

I do not think it is as one sided as many think. 2 Supermen of Pre-DCNU levels were able to scratch a win out of it and they were not even sun dipped.

I'm assuming you mean from Infinite Crisis. Not really fair. They had the benefit of pulling Prime through a red sun.

Which did the exact same thing to them as it did to him. From my understanding, they only did it in the first place to destroy his armor.

#20 Posted by JediXMan (31590 posts) - - Show Bio
@Erik
 
It basically turned them into normal "humans." Earth-2 Superman was old, and therefore easily beaten by the young Prime. Prime, however, was weaker than an adult Superman. Give them their powers, however, and they shouldn't be able to beat Prime.
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#21 Edited by Erik (33327 posts) - - Show Bio

@JediXMan said:

@Erik: It basically turned them into normal "humans." Earth-2 Superman was old, and therefore easily beaten by the young Prime. Prime, however, was weaker than an adult Superman. Give them their powers, however, and they shouldn't be able to beat Prime.

I do not think it turned them into normal humans. They still crashed after planet reentry without dying, still flew, and had rocks smashed into their faces without dying. Any one of those would have killed a human level anything.

I think it weakened them sure, but I think it is a stretch to say it lowered them to human levels and there is no reason to believe it weakened Superboy Prime more than the other two. Especially when up until flying through the sun, still was basically being sun dipped.

#22 Posted by Thor's hammmer (7162 posts) - - Show Bio

this would actually be a really interesting fight

#23 Posted by termiteone4ever (8303 posts) - - Show Bio

even when they went through the sun they were just underpowered they weren't humans and people keep thinking that his powers just goes away instantly it doesn't . If that was the case they all would have died

#24 Posted by CapitolPunishment (2303 posts) - - Show Bio
@Erik said:

@JediXMan said:

@Erik: It basically turned them into normal "humans." Earth-2 Superman was old, and therefore easily beaten by the young Prime. Prime, however, was weaker than an adult Superman. Give them their powers, however, and they shouldn't be able to beat Prime.

I do not think it turned them into normal humans. They still crashed after planet reentry without dying, still flew, and had rocks smashed into their faces without dying. Any one of those would have killed a human level anything.

I think it weakened them sure, but I think it is a stretch to say it lowered them to human levels and there is no reason to believe it weakened Superboy Prime more than the other two. Especially when up until flying through the sun, still was basically being sun dipped.

This, 
 
Added to the fact the Kal-L and Kal-El physically forced prime through that red sun against his will, prime was wearing the yellow sun generating suit up until that point  to boot.
 
#25 Posted by tensor (5355 posts) - - Show Bio

@Erik: sun dip superman would win over prime the reason why prime was so powerful was because he got a constant boost of sun light from his armor making him stronger an faster if u read infinite crisis number 7 it was hal who shot superboy prime with his ring an damage the suit cutting prime main source of power that is why they were able to beat him because superboy loses his power faster than superman if you look at the comic again u even saw that his heat vision was fading in power while superman had enough to take him out

#26 Posted by CapitolPunishment (2303 posts) - - Show Bio
@baron2011
 

this is stupid

superman has limits.he can stay whatever he wants in the sun,he is not getting on prime's or sa supermans level

prime wins


Right, that's why when Superman stayed in the sun for thousands of years he emerged as a god:  Superman Prime one million, ever hear how he got that powerful?
 
In another incident when Sups was sun-soaked in the core of the Sun he was emitting uncontrolled bursts of heat vision that were able to reach distant Galaxies.
 
@Pistolwhip1
 
Does SBP have his suit here? If not this is pretty even battle.
#27 Posted by Dark Cloud™ (2389 posts) - - Show Bio

Prime cries too much, and based on that I vote for Superman.

#28 Posted by termiteone4ever (8303 posts) - - Show Bio

@CapitolPunishment said:

@baron2011:

this is stupid

superman has limits.he can stay whatever he wants in the sun,he is not getting on prime's or sa supermans level

prime wins

Right, that's why when Superman stayed in the sun for thousands of years he emerged as a god: Superman Prime one million, ever hear how he got that powerful?

In another incident when Sups was sun-soaked in the core of the Sun he was emitting uncontrolled bursts of heat vision that were able to reach distant Galaxies.

@Pistolwhip1: Does SBP have his suit here? If not this is pretty even battle.

LOL

good points :)

#29 Posted by emperorznb (1669 posts) - - Show Bio

Sun-dipped Superman could win this but after a hard battle.

#30 Posted by jhazzroucher (16926 posts) - - Show Bio

Superboy Prime wins here.

#31 Posted by HolySerpent (12927 posts) - - Show Bio

This is really not a debate. Prime wins

#32 Posted by a88378438 (3420 posts) - - Show Bio

look scan

Superman(Sun Diped) wins,SBP is very weak

#33 Posted by Killerjax (353 posts) - - Show Bio

@baron2011 said:

@termiteone4ever said:

Sundip supes is not going to lose to Prime lol

what?

prime beats the shit out of post crisis superman sundip or no sundip

Sun dipp Stomps Prime so hard..

#34 Posted by baron2011 (1155 posts) - - Show Bio

@Erik said:

@JediXMan said:

@Erik: It basically turned them into normal "humans." Earth-2 Superman was old, and therefore easily beaten by the young Prime. Prime, however, was weaker than an adult Superman. Give them their powers, however, and they shouldn't be able to beat Prime.

I do not think it turned them into normal humans. They still crashed after planet reentry without dying, still flew, and had rocks smashed into their faces without dying. Any one of those would have killed a human level anything.

I think it weakened them sure, but I think it is a stretch to say it lowered them to human levels and there is no reason to believe it weakened Superboy Prime more than the other two. Especially when up until flying through the sun, still was basically being sun dipped.

before they went through the red sun prime was beating them without problems and after they went through the red sun prime lost his power avantage and that is why he was defetead by superman

your opinion doesn't matter facts are facts.all of them lose their powers and prime lost his avantage.

@CapitolPunishment said:

@Erik said:

@JediXMan said:

@Erik: It basically turned them into normal "humans." Earth-2 Superman was old, and therefore easily beaten by the young Prime. Prime, however, was weaker than an adult Superman. Give them their powers, however, and they shouldn't be able to beat Prime.

I do not think it turned them into normal humans. They still crashed after planet reentry without dying, still flew, and had rocks smashed into their faces without dying. Any one of those would have killed a human level anything.

I think it weakened them sure, but I think it is a stretch to say it lowered them to human levels and there is no reason to believe it weakened Superboy Prime more than the other two. Especially when up until flying through the sun, still was basically being sun dipped.

This, Added to the fact the Kal-L and Kal-El physically forced prime through that red sun against his will, prime was wearing the yellow sun generating suit up until that point to boot.

but this is stupid because prime was not even trying to stop them,he was just punching them and mocking them because they weren't fast enough to enter the speed force

and when prime has the suit is alot weaker than when he doesn't have it.look in the sinestro corps war,when the sun reach the sky,that is when prime is at his strongest

prime wears the suit because he lacks of yellow sun light and he is not even close to full power when he has the suit

@CapitolPunishment said:

@baron2011:

this is stupid

superman has limits.he can stay whatever he wants in the sun,he is not getting on prime's or sa supermans level

prime wins

Right, that's why when Superman stayed in the sun for thousands of years he emerged as a god: Superman Prime one million, ever hear how he got that powerful?

In another incident when Sups was sun-soaked in the core of the Sun he was emitting uncontrolled bursts of heat vision that were able to reach distant Galaxies.

@Pistolwhip1: Does SBP have his suit here? If not this is pretty even battle.

and why are you comparing Superman Prime one million with current superman?superman almost lost his minds because he stayed too much in the sun and AS superman almost died because again he stayed too much in the sun

this is bull because every superman has a limit and not any kryptonian can stay years in the sun and becomes omnipotent

the fact is prime's feats outclass any superman sundip or no sundip feats and he wins this battle

this is the guy who took on green lanter corps,yellow lantern corps,3 guardians of universe,superman,supergirl,powergirl,ion,anti monitor,flash,wonder women,alan scott,firestorm and other heroes at the same time and he was winning before a guardian bfr him in the multiverse.this is the guy who took on monarch,mxy and won

this is the guy whose HV got through superman chest and hand like nothing(prime was very weakened),this is the guy who knocked down Kal-L, Wonder Girl, and Alexander Luthor, Jr. with one blast of heat vision,whose fists brings perople back to life,this is the guy who escape the phantom zone with physical strength alone(all the pc heroes or bad guys were powerless agains it including SA superboy),and escape and almost destroyed the speed force.this is the guy who destroyed the source wall with his heat vision.this is the guy who wtf scared mxy so bad that even after he was at FP,instead of coming back and fight prime he run back in the 5 dimension crying and begging another 5 dimension being to close the hole that prime made it to capture mxy in the first place.

this is the guy who survived blasts and punches from ion,who while being weakened tanked punches without problems from superman,supergirl,powergirl,who survived the best of anti monitor,who survived war world blast,who survived blasts from 3 guardians and not only survived but also laught at them,who survived a blast that destroyed a universe

#35 Posted by Erik (33327 posts) - - Show Bio

@baron2011:

Someone woke up on the wrong side of the trolly cave this morning.

#36 Posted by baron2011 (1155 posts) - - Show Bio

@Erik said:

@baron2011:

Someone woke up on the wrong side of the trolly cave this morning.

your hating is bigger than my trolling

#37 Posted by Erik (33327 posts) - - Show Bio

@baron2011 said:

@Erik said:

@baron2011:

Someone woke up on the wrong side of the trolly cave this morning.

your hating is bigger than my trolling

Since you know nothing about me, I am not surprised you would say I am hating on anything in complete ignorance. I can already tell this is going to be a trend with you.

#38 Posted by RoyalDivinity (3157 posts) - - Show Bio

Can go either way but I can easily make a case for sun dip Superman to stomp hard.

#39 Posted by termiteone4ever (8303 posts) - - Show Bio

@PunkMastaFlex said:

Can go either way but I can easily make a case for sun dip Superman to stomp hard.

Make the case. i would like to read other Opinions.

Sundip already got this in mind from the first post .

#40 Posted by Phaedrusgr (1667 posts) - - Show Bio

I am a little bit confused, cause Prime lost to the Teen Titans. What does it mean? Probably, his powers aren't the same. Am I right? So, current Superman could actually win solo?

#41 Posted by CapitolPunishment (2303 posts) - - Show Bio
@baron2011
 

and why are you comparing Superman Prime one million with current superman?superman almost lost his minds because he stayed too much in the sun and AS superman almost died because again he stayed too much in the sun

this is bull because every superman has a limit and not any kryptonian can stay years in the sun and becomes omnipotent


I stopped reading your post after this part. Do some comic reading, Kal-El evolved into Superman Prime One million after spending thousands of years in the sun so you entire point it moot.


 

#42 Posted by Void_Paladin (901 posts) - - Show Bio

Their stats should be pretty even here. It will come down to something Clark has the Prime doesn't...H2H skill. Superman has had some training by Wildcat, Batman, and others. Prime is an emo teenager. Superman is used to fighting people as strong or stronger than him. Prime has never fought anything on his own level.

The answer is Superman.

#43 Posted by Primebonnick (3141 posts) - - Show Bio

Prime no argument there

#44 Posted by ZenRazor (62 posts) - - Show Bio

Regular Sun Dipped Superman is stronger he is the strongest Superman.With morals off Superman is a completely Diffrent person.I don't think people fully understand Superman's full potential.

#45 Posted by mjolnirson (1768 posts) - - Show Bio

Supes prime 4 ever jejeje... i dont know but superman prime is really awesome!!!

#46 Edited by Primebonnick (3141 posts) - - Show Bio

Prime