Superboy Prime vs Silver Surfer

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#1  Edited By Hellos

Consisting of two rounds 
  
Its Superboy Prime from before his depowerment. 
He is not afriad of the dark, and can see perfectly fine. 

Round 1: 
Inside a black hole (Past the event horizon),  
 
Round 2: 
Near the event horizon of the black hole. 
 
For these fights, SBP has a constant supply of solar energy from a near by yellow star, and much like other kryptonians, has an immunity to any sort effect that the black hole has on time. 
 
Who wins?

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#2  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
Already done.  
http://www.comicvine.com/forums/gen-discussion/1/superman-prime-vs-silver-surfer/8779/?
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#3  Edited By TruePwnge

In a Blackhole?
 
Do you like to torture Prime
 
  Lights out and he starts to pee his pants like a pre-schooler

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#4  Edited By Hellos
@Morpheus_ said:

"Already done. http://www.comicvine.com/forums/gen-discussion/1/superman-prime-vs-silver-surfer/8779/#99 "

Those fights didn't have them in a black hole, or near one xD 
Theres been plenty. 

@TruePwnge said:

"In a Blackhole?
 
Do you like to torture Prime
 
  Lights out and he starts to pee his pants like a pre-schooler

"


I forgot to add his immunity to crapping his pants in the darkness one sec I'll edit that up.
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#5  Edited By Batosaims7

Been done 80000x now
 
Prime punches Surfers head off..

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#6  Edited By Hellos
@Batosaims7 said:
"Been done 80000x now  Prime punches Surfers head off.. "

Not in a black hole my friend, or even near one. 
 
This certiantly will not be an easy fight for prime, unless your a madman :P
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#7  Edited By Batosaims7
@Hellos said:
" @Batosaims7 said:
"Been done 80000x now  Prime punches Surfers head off.. "
Not in a black hole my friend, or even near one.  This certiantly will not be an easy fight for prime, unless your a madman :P "
Superman can easily survive in a black hole...and move at light speeds within one
 
This is a curbstomp..3 Watcher level could only beat Prime by BFR him...Surfer gets murked badly 
 
And use the search button next time
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#8  Edited By xan84
@Hellos said:
"@Batosaims7 said:
"Been done 80000x now  Prime punches Surfers head off.. "
Not in a black hole my friend, or even near one.  This certiantly will not be an easy fight for prime, unless your a madman :P "

Lol why not ? a black hole effects SS badly to. WW Hulk comes to mind and what happend to SS there ...
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#9  Edited By Hellos
@Batosaims7 said:
" @Hellos said:
" @Batosaims7 said:
"Been done 80000x now  Prime punches Surfers head off.. "
Not in a black hole my friend, or even near one.  This certiantly will not be an easy fight for prime, unless your a madman :P "
Superman can easily survive in a black hole...and move at light speeds within one  This is a curbstomp..3 Watcher level could only beat Prime by BFR him...Surfer gets murked badly   And use the search button next time "

Wasn't in a black hole the last time he saw one, and he was trying very hard to not get sucked up into it. Namely because it would have probably killed him :P 
 
Like I said theres plenty of SS vs SBP threads, none of them having him fight in or near a blackhole, namely why I made a new one.
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#10  Edited By Batosaims7

Well Surfer was depowered when he fought Planet Hulk but
Hulk in the past has ko'd surfer in 3 shots
 
Prime would win this in his sleep

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#11  Edited By Hellos
@Xan said:
"@Hellos said:
"@Batosaims7 said:
"Been done 80000x now  Prime punches Surfers head off.. "
Not in a black hole my friend, or even near one.  This certiantly will not be an easy fight for prime, unless your a madman :P "
Lol why not ? a black hole effects SS badly to. WW Hulk comes to mind and what happend to SS there ... "

I think he performed fairly well inside one against a fellow herald without getting smushed xD
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#12  Edited By Batosaims7

Black Holes are nothing

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#13  Edited By xan84
@Hellos said:
"@Xan said:
"@Hellos said:
"@Batosaims7 said:
"Been done 80000x now  Prime punches Surfers head off.. "
Not in a black hole my friend, or even near one.  This certiantly will not be an easy fight for prime, unless your a madman :P "
Lol why not ? a black hole effects SS badly to. WW Hulk comes to mind and what happend to SS there ... "
I think he performed fairly well inside one against a fellow herald without getting smushed xD "

Perhaps but SBP is some powerfull dude to. If SM can hold one in his hand i don't know how much damage a normal black hole is going to do to SBP
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#14  Edited By Batosaims7

Thats true 
Superman held a black hole in his had..thats a more impressive feat

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#15  Edited By Hellos
@Batosaims7 said:
"Black Holes are nothing "

Insanity :P 
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#16  Edited By Batosaims7
@Hellos said:
" @Batosaims7 said:
"Black Holes are nothing "
Insanity :P  "
Nothing for Superman..who can move light speeds in one and hold one in the palm of his hand
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#17  Edited By Hellos
@Batosaims7 said:
" @Hellos said:
" @Batosaims7 said:
"Black Holes are nothing "
Insanity :P  "
Nothing for Superman..who can move light speeds in one and hold one in the palm of his hand "

Current supes didn't seem very prone to getting sucked up a black hole, and broke lightspeed to avoid that fate. The blackhole I had in mind, wasn't palm sized xD 
 
I was thinking the type of black hole the Surfer made, that Thanos was all like "preddy"
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#18  Edited By King_Saturn
Silver Surfer is in a lot of trouble here...
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#19  Edited By Hellos
@King Saturn said:
"Silver Surfer is in a lot of trouble here... "

I think round one should go fairly well for him honestly, past the event Horizon is where his power cosmic will shine, while SBP will be facing lack of sound, and pressure around his entire body trying to squeeze him into infinity, ultimate durability test imo. 
 
Not sure about round two, I figure SBP is more inclined to take it, but he will also want to avoid getting sucked up back into the event horizon, so he will struggling pushing atleast past light speed, while fighting the Surfer :P 
 
I figured this would be an interesting battleground for these two to fight in.
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#20  Edited By Batosaims7

Surfer gets murked in both fights..what a ridiculous fight

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#21  Edited By Hellos
@Batosaims7 said:
"Surfer gets murked in both fights..what a ridiculous fight "

>.< 
 
I think your giving way too much to SBP here :P 
Both of them will be facing one another and the black hole. You don't think this won't at all effect primes performance?
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#22  Edited By Batosaims7
@Hellos said:
" @Batosaims7 said:
"Surfer gets murked in both fights..what a ridiculous fight "
>.<  I think your giving way too much to SBP here :P Both of them will be facing one another and the black hole. You don't think this won't at all effect primes performance? "
I'm giving him all the credit he deserves 
Superman can move at light speeds in a black hole..it wont hinder Primes performance enough to prevent Surfer from getting 1 shotted
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#23  Edited By Hellos
@Batosaims7 said:
" @Hellos said:
" @Batosaims7 said:
"Surfer gets murked in both fights..what a ridiculous fight "
>.<  I think your giving way too much to SBP here :P Both of them will be facing one another and the black hole. You don't think this won't at all effect primes performance? "
I'm giving him all the credit he deserves  Superman can move at light speeds in a black hole..it wont hinder Primes performance enough to prevent Surfer from getting 1 shotted "

I don't remember him moving at light speeds in the black hole, he was caught in its gravity and pushing against it passing the light speed barrier.  
I think it was a rotating black hole? 
 
I really don't believe he was actually INSIDE it, he was certaintly near it red shift and whatnot though.
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#24  Edited By Batosaims7
@Hellos said:
" @Batosaims7 said:
" @Hellos said:
" @Batosaims7 said:
"Surfer gets murked in both fights..what a ridiculous fight "
>.<  I think your giving way too much to SBP here :P Both of them will be facing one another and the black hole. You don't think this won't at all effect primes performance? "
I'm giving him all the credit he deserves  Superman can move at light speeds in a black hole..it wont hinder Primes performance enough to prevent Surfer from getting 1 shotted "
I don't remember him moving at light speeds in the black hole, he was caught in its gravity and pushing against it passing the light speed barrier.  I think it was a rotating black hole?  I really don't believe he was actually INSIDE it, he was certaintly near it red shift and whatnot though. "
He was inside of it...Black holes barely hinder Supermans performance..they wont even slow Prime down a little
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#25  Edited By Hellos
@Batosaims7 said:
" @Hellos said:
" @Batosaims7 said:
" @Hellos said:
" @Batosaims7 said:
"Surfer gets murked in both fights..what a ridiculous fight "
>.<  I think your giving way too much to SBP here :P Both of them will be facing one another and the black hole. You don't think this won't at all effect primes performance? "
I'm giving him all the credit he deserves  Superman can move at light speeds in a black hole..it wont hinder Primes performance enough to prevent Surfer from getting 1 shotted "
I don't remember him moving at light speeds in the black hole, he was caught in its gravity and pushing against it passing the light speed barrier.  I think it was a rotating black hole?  I really don't believe he was actually INSIDE it, he was certaintly near it red shift and whatnot though. "
He was inside of it...Black holes barely hinder Supermans performance..they wont even slow Prime down a little "

Don't suppose you can show me a scan of that event, though I guess I could dry digging one up. Its been posted here before. 
 
Having to go past light speed while fighting SS will be a pain :P
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#26  Edited By Batosaims7

SS doesnt go light speed in combat
SS gets tagged consistently by slow bricks like Juggernaut Hulk Hercules and even Thanos

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#27  Edited By Hellos
@Batosaims7 said:
"SS doesnt go light speed in combat
SS gets tagged consistently by slow bricks like Juggernaut Hulk Hercules and even Thanos "

The Surfer doesn't have to break light speed, should be will within his power to casually move through the black holes gravity.  While SBP has to break lightspeed to just avoid getting sucked up.
 
Can't remember how the black hole messed him up in world war hulk though I'll look that up now, btw in DC plenty of people that should NEVER get hit by slower opponents do it all the time, its comics :P
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#28  Edited By Batosaims7

/facepalm

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#29  Edited By Hellos
@Batosaims7 said:
"/facepalm "

Moo, I was digging in the SS vs Zoom thread for that comic page that involved the Surfer aging the planet into oblivion by accident, to show it to static.
I failed in my mission 72 pages long, got up to 32. 
 
Like I said though, plenty of times you see speedsters, supes, ext get tagged by normal people. Not at ALL unique to SS.  
 
Doesn't make much of a comic to have the unbeatable characters that are impossible to even hit. btw how exactly did the Hulk beat the Surfer in 3 hits, don't suppose theres a scan of that fight too :P
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#30  Edited By Batosaims7

Surfer dies

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#31  Edited By Hellos
@Batosaims7 said:
"Surfer dies "


Don't make for much of an arguement, other then saying black holes apparently are another thing that SBP is immune to, that even had supes shacking in his boots :P 
<Insert sad face here, prime is beatable>
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#32  Edited By Batosaims7

Prime is beatable...but not by Surfer..

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#33  Edited By Hellos
@Batosaims7 said:
"Prime is beatable...but not by Surfer.. "

Not even while fighting against being sucked up by a blackhole / or like round one having his body having the constant pressure of a blackhole crushing him :P 
 
Hes powerful, in this battlefield, the Surfer is going to have alot more of an easy time. 
 
Hell, if I didn't remove his immunity to any effect the blackhole has on time /phobia of darkness / gave him the ability to still see perfectly while near the black hole, Prime would be already toast.
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#34  Edited By Batosaims7

You act like being in a black hole is going to slow him down..it isnt..Superman was barely phased by one and you think it gives Surfer an advantage over Prime
 
No matter where they are its just a simple matter of Prime hitting Surfer one time to kill him
 
Its a simple concept

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#35  Edited By glforthewin
@Hellos: prime wins when he beats the surfer to death with his own bored
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#36  Edited By Hellos
@Batosaims7 said:
"You act like being in a black hole is going to slow him down..it isnt..Superman was barely phased by one and you think it gives Surfer an advantage over Prime  No matter where they are its just a simple matter of Prime hitting Surfer one time to kill him  Its a simple concept "

May be a simple concept, but its horribly wrong :P 
 
It looked fairly phased since we saw like half a dozen of him on the page while he was breaking light speed. Certaintly didn't look confy "Oh boy, I think I will just chill here and take some zZzZ's" more like "I need to kick it into gear to avoid a horrible death"
 
BTW do I have to post the power gem, warrior madness Thor, blasting SS, and him seemingly blocking it with a power cosmic :P 
The guy takes planet busting attacks, I think primes punch shouldn't one shot him, that seems a wee bit nonsense like. 
 
COSMIC ARMBAR!
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#37  Edited By ARMIV

Surfer could win.

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#38  Edited By Batosaims7

It isnt wrong at all...
Warrior madness thor isnt prime or anywhere close to his level
 
Guy takes planet busting attacks..yet he gets killed by thanos..what happens when someone thousands of times stronger and faster hits surfer
 
he dies...

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#39  Edited By Hellos
@Batosaims7 said:

"It isnt wrong at all... Warrior madness thor isnt prime or anywhere close to his level  Guy takes planet busting attacks..yet he gets killed by thanos..what happens when someone thousands of times stronger and faster hits surfer  he dies... "


With a power gem, he should be blasting much harder then prime hits :P  
 
Power gem ftw 
 
Thanos is one of those characters that the Surfer using conventional methods, will probably never beat.
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#40  Edited By Batosaims7

With the power gem he was barely able to scratch Thanos...

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#41  Edited By Hellos
@Batosaims7 said:

"With the power gem he was barely able to scratch Thanos... "


It actually takes Galactus effort to break through Thanos's shielding, the guy has been one of the most powerful beings in marvel. 
Surviving attacks from Odin in Asguard, and basically repairing any damage instantly. 
 
Hes a beast, anything the Surfer can survive, so can he :P
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SBP stomps surfer
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#43  Edited By Batosaims7
@Hellos said:
" @Batosaims7 said:

"With the power gem he was barely able to scratch Thanos... "

It actually takes Galactus effort to break through Thanos's shielding, the guy has been one of the most powerful beings in marvel. Surviving attacks from Odin in Asguard, and basically repairing any damage instantly.  Hes a beast, anything the Surfer can survive, so can he :P "
lol no he isnt...Thanos is a dangerous villian but its mostly because of his intellect ...in random fights he struggles to fight guys like Thor and Morg..
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#44  Edited By Hellos
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"SBP stomps surfer "

Oh boo so you also think that fighting inside a black hole, and at the event horizon his is a curb storm. 
  
Mabye I should just remove what I have given prime then : /  
 
Obviously too much of a curbstomp if I don't.
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#45  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
@Hellos said:
"@#1ElderScrollsFan said:
"SBP stomps surfer "
Oh boo so you also think that fighting inside a black hole, and at the event horizon his is a curb storm.   Mabye I should just remove what I have given prime then : /   Obviously too much of a curbstomp if I don't. "
ok look at it this way man, NORMAL superman was able to move in a double black hole along with hold on in his hand, now prime is much stronger faster ect ect then normal superman, this means that prime near a black hole will be like a walk in the park for him, the guy has been flown into a red sun and still had power to kill golden age superman, he even took a little blue dude blowing up on him on that power is greater then a black hole by FAR, you can hate prime all you like but his feats you can't down play, he KILLS SS.
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#46  Edited By Hellos
@Batosaims7 said:
" @Hellos said:
" @Batosaims7 said:

"With the power gem he was barely able to scratch Thanos... "

It actually takes Galactus effort to break through Thanos's shielding, the guy has been one of the most powerful beings in marvel. Surviving attacks from Odin in Asguard, and basically repairing any damage instantly.  Hes a beast, anything the Surfer can survive, so can he :P "
lol no he isnt...Thanos is a dangerous villian but its mostly because of his intellect ...in random fights he struggles to fight guys like Thor and Morg.. "

He seems to be right up there since his new ressurection.  
Not even Thor is going to fair to well against his daddy throwing out blasts like that at him. 
 
If your going to support SBP's awsomeness, you have to admit, its hard as hell to kill someone who is banned from death, even before that he was a pain in the ass to kill.
Unless ofcourse your using Rulks leobforce.  SBP does not have that kind of awsome.
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#47  Edited By DC_Marvel_1000
@Hellos said:
"@Batosaims7 said:
" @Hellos said:
" @Batosaims7 said:

"With the power gem he was barely able to scratch Thanos... "

It actually takes Galactus effort to break through Thanos's shielding, the guy has been one of the most powerful beings in marvel. Surviving attacks from Odin in Asguard, and basically repairing any damage instantly.  Hes a beast, anything the Surfer can survive, so can he :P "
lol no he isnt...Thanos is a dangerous villian but its mostly because of his intellect ...in random fights he struggles to fight guys like Thor and Morg.. "
He seems to be right up there since his new ressurection.  Not even Thor is going to fair to well against his daddy throwing out blasts like that at him.  If your going to support SBP's awsomeness, you have to admit, its hard as hell to kill someone who is banned from death, even before that he was a pain in the ass to kill.Unless ofcourse your using Rulks leobforce.  SBP does not have that kind of awsome. "
since when does killing someone mean you win? prime can KO thanos and why are we even talking about thanos
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#48  Edited By Batosaims7

Prime stomps

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"Prime stomps "
very much so
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#50  Edited By Hellos
@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
"@Hellos said:
"@#1ElderScrollsFan said:
"SBP stomps surfer "
Oh boo so you also think that fighting inside a black hole, and at the event horizon his is a curb storm.   Mabye I should just remove what I have given prime then : /   Obviously too much of a curbstomp if I don't. "
ok look at it this way man, NORMAL superman was able to move in a double black hole along with hold on in his hand, now prime is much stronger faster ect ect then normal superman, this means that prime near a black hole will be like a walk in the park for him, the guy has been flown into a red sun and still had power to kill golden age superman, he even took a little blue dude blowing up on him on that power is greater then a black hole by FAR, you can hate prime all you like but his feats you can't down play, he KILLS SS. "
Well I would like to think it wouldn't be such a curbstomp when your fighting against the black hole and the opponent, someone thats going to be having a much easier time with it than you are. 
I mean hell this wouldn't be a fight if I didn't slap any sort of immunity to whatever effect the blackhole has on time, his fear of being in the dark, and even letting him be able to see anything while inside the black hole for round one :P 

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"With the power gem he was barely able to scratch Thanos... "

It actually takes Galactus effort to break through Thanos's shielding, the guy has been one of the most powerful beings in marvel. Surviving attacks from Odin in Asguard, and basically repairing any damage instantly.  Hes a beast, anything the Surfer can survive, so can he :P "
lol no he isnt...Thanos is a dangerous villian but its mostly because of his intellect ...in random fights he struggles to fight guys like Thor and Morg.. "
He seems to be right up there since his new ressurection.  Not even Thor is going to fair to well against his daddy throwing out blasts like that at him.  If your going to support SBP's awsomeness, you have to admit, its hard as hell to kill someone who is banned from death, even before that he was a pain in the ass to kill.Unless ofcourse your using Rulks leobforce.  SBP does not have that kind of awsome. "
since when does killing someone mean you win? prime can KO thanos and why are we even talking about thanos "
Someone was saying how power gem warrior madness Thor, being blocked by SS was nothing, because Thanos was able to handle it :P