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#1  Edited By HolySerpent

Prime ( when he was taking on groups of lanterns) vs superman, Thor, she hulk , champion ( with power gem), etrigan, lobo, mongul with rings, ironman extremis, Kyle rayner, WW hulk, rulk, scar old power, power girl and captain America . Rules: no bfr, no draining, morals off

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#2  Edited By King_Saturn  Online
hmmm... I wonder if Superman knew how to use The Power Gem could he take on Superboy Prime by himself ? 
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#3  Edited By HolySerpent

No switching powers or Weapon. They were giving to each individual for a reason

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#4  Edited By MrDirector786

Captain America obviously solos.

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#5  Edited By DocHurt

Prime wins/

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#6  Edited By Killemall
@DocHurt said:

Prime wins/

I don’t see Prime winning at all, the best he can achieve is stalemate because regardless of how powerful prime is, without BFR he has absolutely no way to handle champion with power gem. Power gem gives infinite durability, and has always been shown to do so. 

  

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#7  Edited By HolySerpent

I think can win

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#8  Edited By termiteone4ever

This could be interesting . To see Prime fight all these freaks . I see him pulling some foolishness off here

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#9  Edited By Red_5

Superman, Thor, Kyle and WW Hulk is enough already.

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#10  Edited By HolySerpent

Do you know who prime is

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#11  Edited By czarny_samael666

Champion solo...

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#12  Edited By buttersdaman000
@czarny_samael666:  
No 
Champions best feat w/ the power gem was fighting Thanos and one shotting a planet, right?  
So what makes you think he can solo SBP?
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#13  Edited By czarny_samael666
@buttersdaman000 said:
@czarny_samael666:  No Champions best feat w/ the power gem was fighting Thanos and one shotting a planet, right?  So what makes you think he can solo SBP?
That without BFR Prime can't defeat Champion.
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#14  Edited By buttersdaman000
@czarny_samael666:  
Why?  
Didnt champion get his butt kicked by Thing and She-Hulk?
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#15  Edited By HolySerpent

She hulk beat champion when he have the power gem. But still he can't prime by himself

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#16  Edited By czarny_samael666
@buttersdaman000 said:
@czarny_samael666:  Why?  Didnt champion get his butt kicked by Thing and She-Hulk?
With Power Gem?
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#17  Edited By HolySerpent

She hulk never beat the champion when he had the power gem. He fought her without it

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#18  Edited By czarny_samael666
@HolySerpent said:
She hulk never beat the champion when he had the power gem. He fought her without it
That is the point. Champion should be indestructible like Juggernaut with PG.
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#19  Edited By Jeronimo

@czarny_samael666 said:

Champion solo...

Power Gem > prime

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#20  Edited By HolySerpent

Champion anyone as strong as prime. And champion can't tag him

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#21  Edited By czarny_samael666
@HolySerpent said:
Champion anyone as strong as prime. And champion can't tag him
In such a fight, sooner or later Champion would be forced to use PG better and PG has complete control over all energies in the Universe. 
 
Person with PG can only be BFRd (but only if he has low level knowledge about it) and defeated by mind/soul attacks. 
+ reality warping of course.
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#22  Edited By All_StarSupes

Prime should take this, most of the characters are too slow to even see Prime never mind hit the guy.

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#23  Edited By Killerjax

Prime loses...

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#24  Edited By buttersdaman000
@czarny_samael666:  
Im not sure, but as I said above, his best feat with the power gem is one shotting a planet and fighting Thanos 
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#25  Edited By buttersdaman000
@czarny_samael666:  
What? 
So your whole Champion w/ power gem argument is based on speculation? 
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#26  Edited By Pharoh_Atem

Prime gets his ass handed to him.

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#27  Edited By buttersdaman000
@dccomicsrule2011:  
Explain 
And why are you posting like that?
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#28  Edited By HolySerpent

Cause he's a troll

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#29  Edited By Pharoh_Atem

@buttersdaman000 said:

@dccomicsrule2011: Explain And why are you posting like that?

Prime can not take this team beings like Superman gives Prime a decent fight with everyone rushing him Thor hitting him with shots that can hurt sky fathers Kyle Rayner can make copies of other heroes (yes he done it before) Lobo and his crazy wicked power I just do not see prime winning.

This is my new posting style it is my trademark I am the new dccomicsrule2011.

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#30  Edited By Pharoh_Atem

@HolySerpent said:

Cause he's a troll

Trying to start a flame war huh?

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#31  Edited By buttersdaman000
@dccomicsrule2011:  
Yet he is still capable of team busting the JLA, JSA, Dozens of GL's and so on 
 
And it seems like youre just copying Sexy Merc and Billy Batson
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#32  Edited By czarny_samael666
@buttersdaman000 said:
@dccomicsrule2011:  Yet he is still capable of team busting the JLA, JSA, Dozens of GL's and so on  And it seems like youre just copying Sexy Merc and Billy Batson
It still is annoying.  
 
@buttersdaman000 said:
@czarny_samael666:  What? So your whole Champion w/ power gem argument is based on speculation? 

It isn't speculation. 
We know what Power Gem is, thanks to Thanos.
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#33  Edited By Pharoh_Atem

@buttersdaman000 said:

@dccomicsrule2011: Yet he is still capable of team busting the JLA, JSA, Dozens of GL's and so on And it seems like youre just copying Sexy Merc and Billy Batson

Yet he flees when Bart Allen Hit him a few times and Superboy gives him a pretty good fight Thor will be going all out hitting him with blast that can hurt Sky fathers Kyle Rayner will make a copy of a super hero or rearange his Molecules and get some one Like Martians powers not to mention Mongul with rings was a pure beast Prime is not winning. Also Sexy Merc and BillyBatson has Header two I have 3.

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#34  Edited By HolySerpent

@dccomicsrule2011 said:

@buttersdaman000 said:

@dccomicsrule2011: Yet he is still capable of team busting the JLA, JSA, Dozens of GL's and so on And it seems like youre just copying Sexy Merc and Billy Batson

Yet he flees when Bart Allen Hit him a few times and Superboy gives him a pretty good fight Thor will be going all out hitting him with blast that can hurt Sky fathers Kyle Rayner will make a copy of a super hero or rearange his Molecules and get some one Like Martians powers not to mention Mongul with rings was a pure beast Prime is not winning. Also Sexy Merc and BillyBatson has Header two I have 3.

lol

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#35  Edited By buttersdaman000
@dccomicsrule2011:  
He flees because he's a little girl and he's afraid of the flash family almost as much as he is the dark. But if you'll remember correctly he puts up fights against the whole family, blitzing them just as much as they do him. 
Superboy giving him a good fight is obvious PIS 
When was the last time Thor used a power like that? Do you mean the God Blast? If so that blast than can be easily avoided....And Superboy Prime was punking guardians anyways  
Superboy Prime can bust the justice league so I dont see Kyles one time feat of recreating the league being very handy. And when has Kyle ever rearranged his molecules like that? 
IIRC Mongul with his rings lost to Sodam yat ion. And you remember who won the Ion vs SBP fight, right?
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#36  Edited By Pharoh_Atem

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  1. The point is Bart did damage with only a few punches

  2. I would say But Prime never one shotted some on superman level

  3. When he fought Glory he hit him with the wind of one thousand worlds a blast the made a being who never felt pain feel it The Guardians are nothing but the biggest Jobbers in comics they should not be used at a feat

  4. He has I will give you the scans

  5. Yeah Sodam just got his power he had zero expereince with Ion power he had some with his fight with Mongul

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#37  Edited By thanobomb1124
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@buttersdaman000 said:

@dccomicsrule2011: Yet he is still capable of team busting the JLA, JSA, Dozens of GL's and so on And it seems like youre just copying Sexy Merc and Billy Batson

Yet he flees when Bart Allen Hit him a few times and Superboy gives him a pretty good fight Thor will be going all out hitting him with blast that can hurt Sky fathers Kyle Rayner will make a copy of a super hero or rearange his Molecules and get some one Like Martians powers not to mention Mongul with rings was a pure beast Prime is not winning. Also Sexy Merc and BillyBatson has Header two I have 3.

Lol
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#38  Edited By buttersdaman000
@dccomicsrule2011:  
1. No, Bart barely did any damage, if none at all. SBP doesnt run from flashes because he doesnt stand a chance against them (Unlike some of these characters here) 
2. Inconsistencies. But when has anybody on the other team done so? He is able to move planets like chess pieces, just because he doesnt one shot Superman doesnt mean he is any weaker; It means Superman has great durabilty and/or PIS 
3. I can say the same thing about Glory.....no wait, Thor used the PIS Hammer to absorb Glorys own energy and reflect it back. Not his own.  And Guardians are still skyfather level, whether you think they job or not, and SBP still punked a couple of them 
4. Show em  
5. The main difference was that he wasnt as cocky in he fight with Mongul. Its not like he suddenly became a lot more experieced.....oh and iirc Sinestro beat the crap out of Mongul too
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#39  Edited By Pharoh_Atem

@buttersdaman000 said:

@dccomicsrule2011: 1. No, Bart barely did any damage, if none at all. SBP doesnt run from flashes because he doesnt stand a chance against them (Unlike some of these characters here) 2. Inconsistencies. But when has anybody on the other team done so? He is able to move planets like chess pieces, just because he doesnt one shot Superman doesnt mean he is any weaker; It means Superman has great durabilty and/or PIS 3. I can say the same thing about Glory.....no wait, Thor used the PIS Hammer to absorb Glorys own energy and reflect it back. Not his own. And Guardians are still skyfather level, whether you think they job or not, and SBP still punked a couple of them 4. Show em 5. The main difference was that he wasnt as cocky in he fight with Mongul. Its not like he suddenly became a lot more experieced.....oh and iirc Sinestro beat the crap out of Mongul too
  1. He made him bleed Bart did do damage to Prime

  2. I never said he is weaker just saying that People on Supes level last a decent time against Prime

  3. He was able to Harm Surtur and Galactus on many occasions and Thor used the Wind of One thousand worlds ti Hurt him which was his powers not Glory.

  4. I will give them to you Pm I can not post it Right now I will have to copy paste from another thread.

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#40  Edited By Outside_85

Prime falls in the face of the opposition.

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#41  Edited By buttersdaman000
@dccomicsrule2011:  
1. Not a good argument to prove prime loses this. Most of these people here couldnt keep up with Bart anyways. 
2. Usually with help from multiple people 
3. A weakened Galactus, and scans for the glory feat 
4. Nothing in that PM changes my mind. It just seems like youre speculating and hyping up what Kyle can do. 
  
The highest threats on the team are Superman, Thor, Lobo, Mongul, Kyle, Power Girl and maybe Champion. Everybody else ranges from a moderate threat to fodder.  
Now why cant somebody who takes on the JLA + JSA together wipe out this team? 
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#42  Edited By Pharoh_Atem

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  1. Ok

  2. But he still does not one shot them thats the point if Thor is dishing out shots like he did vs Glory Prime would be in real trouble

  3. Weaken Galactus who nearly dead destroyed three plus solar systems>>>>>>>>SBP.

  4. I do not see why he can not do it if he changed his molecular structure he can do the same with anybody as long as he knows there structure which he does.

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#43  Edited By buttersdaman000
@dccomicsrule2011:  
1. Its not a point at all. All that proves is Superman and characters in his class have consistent durability and in some cases are aided by PIS. And what makes you think Thor's 1000 worlds feat is a one shot? Just because it made Glory feel pain?  
2. Now what does that say about Thor hurting him?  
4. Has he ever done it? Or anything close to it? 
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#44  Edited By Thor's hammmer

to much power against prime.

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#45  Edited By Pharoh_Atem

@buttersdaman000 said:

@dccomicsrule2011: 1. Its not a point at all. All that proves is Superman and characters in his class have consistent durability and in some cases are aided by PIS. And what makes you think Thor's 1000 worlds feat is a one shot? Just because it made Glory feel pain? 2. Now what does that say about Thor hurting him? 4. Has he ever done it? Or anything close to it?
  1. I never said it was a one shots Gory is sopposed be =to Odin Odin>>>>SBP it would do alot of damge
  2. He hurt some one who is = to Odin

4. Kyle has made live copies of Daxamite before I have the scans but I have to go that is proof enough.

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#46  Edited By Siafon

Given what I know about these characters Superboy Prime goes down. First Champion with the power gem is going to close to his equal physically, and then you add in Rulk it's over. Rulk can and will absorb the solar radiation from Superboy Prime weakening him. He can also keep Superman fully powered for this fight. But since no power draining is allowed Prime walks away, or flies away the winner.
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#47  Edited By emperorznb

I don't think Prime could take out Lobo without BFR.

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#48  Edited By slimj87d

Team wins. Superman and Power Girl could take down Prime. Power Girl is nearly as strong as Earth-2 Superman, and they have the rest of the team to back them up. If Superman and Power Girl grabbed Prime long enough then Champion with the power gem could get him in a headlock. Thor could BFR them where there is a red sun and all the Kryptonians would become powerless. Thor would then backhand the boy and KO him.

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#49  Edited By emperorznb

@SlimJ87D said:

Team wins. Superman and Power Girl could take down Prime. Power Girl is nearly as strong as Earth-2 Superman, and they have the rest of the team to back them up. If Superman and Power Girl grabbed Prime long enough then Champion with the power gem could get him in a headlock. Thor could BFR them where there is a red sun and all the Kryptonians would become powerless. Thor would then backhand the boy and KO him.

The OP said no BFR.

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#50  Edited By slimj87d

@emperorznb: This is not a BFR since the OP did not list the stadium or location of fight where it shall remain that they are to fight in. This means the only means of BFR is sending them to another dimension like the speed force, negative zone, phantom zone, etc.