Prime ( when he was taking on groups of lanterns) vs superman, Thor, she hulk , champion ( with power gem), etrigan, lobo, mongul with rings, ironman extremis, Kyle rayner, WW hulk, rulk, scar old power, power girl and captain America . Rules: no bfr, no draining, morals off
Superboy prime vs marvel & dc
Prime wins/
I don’t see Prime winning at all, the best he can achieve is stalemate because regardless of how powerful prime is, without BFR he has absolutely no way to handle champion with power gem. Power gem gives infinite durability, and has always been shown to do so.
This could be interesting . To see Prime fight all these freaks . I see him pulling some foolishness off here
No
Champions best feat w/ the power gem was fighting Thanos and one shotting a planet, right?
So what makes you think he can solo SBP?
@czarny_samael666: No Champions best feat w/ the power gem was fighting Thanos and one shotting a planet, right? So what makes you think he can solo SBP?That without BFR Prime can't defeat Champion.
@czarny_samael666: Why? Didnt champion get his butt kicked by Thing and She-Hulk?With Power Gem?
She hulk never beat the champion when he had the power gem. He fought her without itThat is the point. Champion should be indestructible like Juggernaut with PG.
Champion anyone as strong as prime. And champion can't tag himIn such a fight, sooner or later Champion would be forced to use PG better and PG has complete control over all energies in the Universe.
Person with PG can only be BFRd (but only if he has low level knowledge about it) and defeated by mind/soul attacks.
+ reality warping of course.
Prime should take this, most of the characters are too slow to even see Prime never mind hit the guy.
Im not sure, but as I said above, his best feat with the power gem is one shotting a planet and fighting Thanos
@buttersdaman000 said:
@dccomicsrule2011: Explain And why are you posting like that?
Prime can not take this team beings like Superman gives Prime a decent fight with everyone rushing him Thor hitting him with shots that can hurt sky fathers Kyle Rayner can make copies of other heroes (yes he done it before) Lobo and his crazy wicked power I just do not see prime winning.
This is my new posting style it is my trademark I am the new dccomicsrule2011.
Yet he is still capable of team busting the JLA, JSA, Dozens of GL's and so on
And it seems like youre just copying Sexy Merc and Billy Batson
@dccomicsrule2011: Yet he is still capable of team busting the JLA, JSA, Dozens of GL's and so on And it seems like youre just copying Sexy Merc and Billy BatsonIt still is annoying.
@buttersdaman000 said:
@czarny_samael666: What? So your whole Champion w/ power gem argument is based on speculation?
It isn't speculation.
We know what Power Gem is, thanks to Thanos.
@buttersdaman000 said:
@dccomicsrule2011: Yet he is still capable of team busting the JLA, JSA, Dozens of GL's and so on And it seems like youre just copying Sexy Merc and Billy Batson
Yet he flees when Bart Allen Hit him a few times and Superboy gives him a pretty good fight Thor will be going all out hitting him with blast that can hurt Sky fathers Kyle Rayner will make a copy of a super hero or rearange his Molecules and get some one Like Martians powers not to mention Mongul with rings was a pure beast Prime is not winning. Also Sexy Merc and BillyBatson has Header two I have 3.
@dccomicsrule2011 said:
@buttersdaman000 said:
@dccomicsrule2011: Yet he is still capable of team busting the JLA, JSA, Dozens of GL's and so on And it seems like youre just copying Sexy Merc and Billy BatsonYet he flees when Bart Allen Hit him a few times and Superboy gives him a pretty good fight Thor will be going all out hitting him with blast that can hurt Sky fathers Kyle Rayner will make a copy of a super hero or rearange his Molecules and get some one Like Martians powers not to mention Mongul with rings was a pure beast Prime is not winning. Also Sexy Merc and BillyBatson has Header two I have 3.
lol
He flees because he's a little girl and he's afraid of the flash family almost as much as he is the dark. But if you'll remember correctly he puts up fights against the whole family, blitzing them just as much as they do him.
Superboy giving him a good fight is obvious PIS
When was the last time Thor used a power like that? Do you mean the God Blast? If so that blast than can be easily avoided....And Superboy Prime was punking guardians anyways
Superboy Prime can bust the justice league so I dont see Kyles one time feat of recreating the league being very handy. And when has Kyle ever rearranged his molecules like that?
IIRC Mongul with his rings lost to Sodam yat ion. And you remember who won the Ion vs SBP fight, right?
@buttersdaman000:
The point is Bart did damage with only a few punches
I would say But Prime never one shotted some on superman level
When he fought Glory he hit him with the wind of one thousand worlds a blast the made a being who never felt pain feel it The Guardians are nothing but the biggest Jobbers in comics they should not be used at a feat
He has I will give you the scans
Yeah Sodam just got his power he had zero expereince with Ion power he had some with his fight with Mongul
Lol@buttersdaman000 said:
@dccomicsrule2011: Yet he is still capable of team busting the JLA, JSA, Dozens of GL's and so on And it seems like youre just copying Sexy Merc and Billy BatsonYet he flees when Bart Allen Hit him a few times and Superboy gives him a pretty good fight Thor will be going all out hitting him with blast that can hurt Sky fathers Kyle Rayner will make a copy of a super hero or rearange his Molecules and get some one Like Martians powers not to mention Mongul with rings was a pure beast Prime is not winning. Also Sexy Merc and BillyBatson has Header two I have 3.
1. No, Bart barely did any damage, if none at all. SBP doesnt run from flashes because he doesnt stand a chance against them (Unlike some of these characters here)
2. Inconsistencies. But when has anybody on the other team done so? He is able to move planets like chess pieces, just because he doesnt one shot Superman doesnt mean he is any weaker; It means Superman has great durabilty and/or PIS
3. I can say the same thing about Glory.....no wait, Thor used the PIS Hammer to absorb Glorys own energy and reflect it back. Not his own. And Guardians are still skyfather level, whether you think they job or not, and SBP still punked a couple of them
4. Show em
5. The main difference was that he wasnt as cocky in he fight with Mongul. Its not like he suddenly became a lot more experieced.....oh and iirc Sinestro beat the crap out of Mongul too
@buttersdaman000 said:
@dccomicsrule2011: 1. No, Bart barely did any damage, if none at all. SBP doesnt run from flashes because he doesnt stand a chance against them (Unlike some of these characters here) 2. Inconsistencies. But when has anybody on the other team done so? He is able to move planets like chess pieces, just because he doesnt one shot Superman doesnt mean he is any weaker; It means Superman has great durabilty and/or PIS 3. I can say the same thing about Glory.....no wait, Thor used the PIS Hammer to absorb Glorys own energy and reflect it back. Not his own. And Guardians are still skyfather level, whether you think they job or not, and SBP still punked a couple of them 4. Show em 5. The main difference was that he wasnt as cocky in he fight with Mongul. Its not like he suddenly became a lot more experieced.....oh and iirc Sinestro beat the crap out of Mongul too
He made him bleed Bart did do damage to Prime
I never said he is weaker just saying that People on Supes level last a decent time against Prime
He was able to Harm Surtur and Galactus on many occasions and Thor used the Wind of One thousand worlds ti Hurt him which was his powers not Glory.
I will give them to you Pm I can not post it Right now I will have to copy paste from another thread.
1. Not a good argument to prove prime loses this. Most of these people here couldnt keep up with Bart anyways.
2. Usually with help from multiple people
3. A weakened Galactus, and scans for the glory feat
4. Nothing in that PM changes my mind. It just seems like youre speculating and hyping up what Kyle can do.
The highest threats on the team are Superman, Thor, Lobo, Mongul, Kyle, Power Girl and maybe Champion. Everybody else ranges from a moderate threat to fodder.
Now why cant somebody who takes on the JLA + JSA together wipe out this team?
@buttersdaman000:
Ok
But he still does not one shot them thats the point if Thor is dishing out shots like he did vs Glory Prime would be in real trouble
Weaken Galactus who nearly dead destroyed three plus solar systems>>>>>>>>SBP.
I do not see why he can not do it if he changed his molecular structure he can do the same with anybody as long as he knows there structure which he does.
1. Its not a point at all. All that proves is Superman and characters in his class have consistent durability and in some cases are aided by PIS. And what makes you think Thor's 1000 worlds feat is a one shot? Just because it made Glory feel pain?
2. Now what does that say about Thor hurting him?
4. Has he ever done it? Or anything close to it?
@buttersdaman000 said:
@dccomicsrule2011: 1. Its not a point at all. All that proves is Superman and characters in his class have consistent durability and in some cases are aided by PIS. And what makes you think Thor's 1000 worlds feat is a one shot? Just because it made Glory feel pain? 2. Now what does that say about Thor hurting him? 4. Has he ever done it? Or anything close to it?
- I never said it was a one shots Gory is sopposed be =to Odin Odin>>>>SBP it would do alot of damge
- He hurt some one who is = to Odin
4. Kyle has made live copies of Daxamite before I have the scans but I have to go that is proof enough.
Given what I know about these characters Superboy Prime goes down. First Champion with the power gem is going to close to his equal physically, and then you add in Rulk it's over. Rulk can and will absorb the solar radiation from Superboy Prime weakening him. He can also keep Superman fully powered for this fight. But since no power draining is allowed Prime walks away, or flies away the winner.
Team wins. Superman and Power Girl could take down Prime. Power Girl is nearly as strong as Earth-2 Superman, and they have the rest of the team to back them up. If Superman and Power Girl grabbed Prime long enough then Champion with the power gem could get him in a headlock. Thor could BFR them where there is a red sun and all the Kryptonians would become powerless. Thor would then backhand the boy and KO him.
@SlimJ87D said:
Team wins. Superman and Power Girl could take down Prime. Power Girl is nearly as strong as Earth-2 Superman, and they have the rest of the team to back them up. If Superman and Power Girl grabbed Prime long enough then Champion with the power gem could get him in a headlock. Thor could BFR them where there is a red sun and all the Kryptonians would become powerless. Thor would then backhand the boy and KO him.
The OP said no BFR.
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