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#1 Posted by Susanoo (5868 posts) - - Show Bio

 vs  
Battlefield: Earth 
 
Who wins?
#2 Posted by mark5 (1207 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom 
don't know who Super Sonic even is.

#3 Posted by Susanoo (5868 posts) - - Show Bio
@mark5 said:


                    Zoom don't know who Super Sonic even is.

                   

               

Comic character. Very fast.
#4 Posted by Jezer (3183 posts) - - Show Bio
@mark5 said:


                    Zoom don't know who Super Sonic even is.

                   

               

How do you figure Zoom wins if you don't even know who Super Sonic is? 
 Like, what logical process did you go through in your mind to come to that conclusion?
#5 Posted by King Saturn (225645 posts) - - Show Bio
Zoom would win... though Super Sonic is pretty quick
#6 Posted by termiteone4ever (8270 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom gives a new meaning to speed. Not much character in comic is faster than him .. 
Only guys from the 1 million series in the DC universe and few Anime/ manga and a few other God like characters in other comics

#7 Posted by Super_SoldierXII (6665 posts) - - Show Bio

Can you give an idea as to the extent of Super Sonic's abilities? If I had to base it off the video game icon and cartoon, then Zoom stomps ... but Super Sonic sounds like an Amped version ...
#8 Posted by Cosmic_Falcon (2033 posts) - - Show Bio

Stalemate, SS can't hit Zoom, Zoom can't hurt Super Sonic. 

#9 Posted by mark5 (1207 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jezer said:
@mark5 said:


                    Zoom don't know who Super Sonic even is.

                   

               
How do you figure Zoom wins if you don't even know who Super Sonic is?  Like, what logical process did you go through in your mind to come to that conclusion?
read his page here, Lightspeed and invincible? Zoom can handle that.
#10 Posted by Nefarious (23583 posts) - - Show Bio

I guess this is a stalemate.

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#11 Posted by Susanoo (5868 posts) - - Show Bio
@Super_SoldierXII said:


                    Can you give an idea as to the extent of Super Sonic's abilities? If I had to base it off the video game icon and cartoon, then Zoom stomps ... but Super Sonic sounds like an Amped version ...

                   

               

#12 Posted by Super_SoldierXII (6665 posts) - - Show Bio
@Susanoo
Cool... thanks. Bending time and space huh? OK... this is a fight...
#13 Posted by alcoholbob (1192 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jezer said:
@mark5 said:


                    Zoom don't know who Super Sonic even is.

                   

               
How do you figure Zoom wins if you don't even know who Super Sonic is?  Like, what logical process did you go through in your mind to come to that conclusion?
Just like how Superman automatically wins on the Comic Vine. You don't even need to read who he's facing. He just wins.
#14 Posted by Susanoo (5868 posts) - - Show Bio
@Super_SoldierXII said:


                    @Susanoo: Cool... thanks. Bending time and space huh? OK... this is a fight...

                   

               

He also fought universal level busters and galactus level foes in his Super Sonic form as well.
#15 Posted by mark5 (1207 posts) - - Show Bio
@Susanoo: But can he react to Zoom? Hell SS can bend time too, he still loses to Zoom.
#16 Posted by Susanoo (5868 posts) - - Show Bio
@mark5 said:


                    @Susanoo: But can he react to Zoom? Hell SS can bend time too, he still loses to Zoom.

                   

               

I really don't know.
#17 Posted by biggkeem89 (1404 posts) - - Show Bio

Super Sonic is pretty tough, but Zoom has it. Super Sonic is invulnerable and can use Chaos Control to warp time with a Chaos Emerald, but unless he had the unlimited energy from the Master Emerald, then Zoom is just too much. I would pit Zoom vs Chaos Knuckles or Enerjak for a really good fight

#18 Posted by cap_a_rules (74 posts) - - Show Bio
@Super_SoldierXII
super sonic is faster than zoon and must stronger wonder woman 
#19 Posted by HumanNumber (1453 posts) - - Show Bio
@cap_a_rules said:
@Super_SoldierXII: super sonic is faster than zoon and must stronger wonder woman 
Unless Super Sonic possess infinite speed, he isn't faster than Zoom.
#20 Posted by Susanoo (5868 posts) - - Show Bio
@HumanNumber said:


                    @cap_a_rules said:

@Super_SoldierXII: super sonic is faster than zoon and must stronger wonder woman 

                   

               
Unless Super Sonic possess infinite speed, he isn't faster than Zoom.

                   

               

If his speed were truly infinite, Superman and Flash wouldn't be able to see him at all. Not as a blur but not at all. Also, his punches would destroy almost everything if this were true. His speed is not infinite.
#21 Posted by Jezer (3183 posts) - - Show Bio
@mark5 said:


                    @Jezer said:

@mark5 said:


                    Zoom don't know who Super Sonic even is.

                   

               
How do you figure Zoom wins if you don't even know who Super Sonic is?  Like, what logical process did you go through in your mind to come to that conclusion?

                   

               
read his page here, Lightspeed and invincible? Zoom can handle that.

                   

               

Yeah, this^ doesn't answer my question. 
  
Before when you didn't even know who Super Sonic was (thus we can assume you didn't know what he could do), how did you automatically conclude that Zoom wins?  
It blows my mind.
#22 Posted by _Beastmaster_ (1513 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom isn't fast at all :P

#23 Posted by Sgtcrispy (414 posts) - - Show Bio
@Night_Rake said:
Zoom isn't fast at all :P
And Superboy Isn't strong.
#24 Posted by _Beastmaster_ (1513 posts) - - Show Bio
@Sgtcrispy: Zoom doesn't have any real speed.
#25 Posted by Susanoo (5868 posts) - - Show Bio
@Night_Rake said:


                    @Sgtcrispy: Zoom doesn't have any real speed.

                   

               

His speed comes from existing on a different timezone. Think of a straight line. Then draw a point on it. Then you proceed to draw another line above it. Draw a point on that line on the opposite side of the one drawn on the bottom. The result of existing in a different timeline grants him much faster speed, and with that speed, much greater striking power.
#26 Posted by _Beastmaster_ (1513 posts) - - Show Bio
@Susanoo: Last time i checked he manipulated time around himself to make the whole world seem slower....
#27 Posted by Sgtcrispy (414 posts) - - Show Bio
@Night_Rake said:
@Sgtcrispy: Zoom doesn't have any real speed.
As if semantics matter.
#28 Posted by Susanoo (5868 posts) - - Show Bio
@Night_Rake said:


                    @Susanoo: Last time i checked he manipulated time around himself to make the whole world seem slower....

                   

               

No. When he woke up from a hospital, his powers were automatically on. He didn't turn it on. It was automatically on the moment he woke up. Not to mention that one of the Flashes made a theory similar to mine of how Zoom got his powers.
#29 Posted by mark5 (1207 posts) - - Show Bio
@Jezer said:
@mark5 said:


                    @Jezer said:

@mark5 said:


                    Zoom don't know who Super Sonic even is.

                   

               
How do you figure Zoom wins if you don't even know who Super Sonic is?  Like, what logical process did you go through in your mind to come to that conclusion?

                   

               
read his page here, Lightspeed and invincible? Zoom can handle that.

                   

               
Yeah, this^ doesn't answer my question.   Before when you didn't even know who Super Sonic was (thus we can assume you didn't know what he could do), how did you automatically conclude that Zoom wins?  It blows my mind.
eh i read his page before i posted that. I really still don't know anything about him. 
#30 Posted by _Beastmaster_ (1513 posts) - - Show Bio
@Susanoo: Zoom was only created to make people think Flash isn't "The Fastest there is!"
@Sgtcrispy: Not to a battle,but physically,Zoom isn't fast at all.
#31 Posted by TheCerealKillz (10234 posts) - - Show Bio
@Night_Rake:  
 
Funny joke is funny XD 
 
Why are you using your RPG character?
#32 Posted by Susanoo (5868 posts) - - Show Bio
@Night_Rake said:


                    @Susanoo: Zoom was only created to make people think Flash isn't "The Fastest there is!"
@Sgtcrispy: Not to a battle,but physically,Zoom isn't fast at all.

                   

               

Zoom was created the same reason why Doomsday was created.
#33 Posted by _Beastmaster_ (1513 posts) - - Show Bio
@TheCerealKillz: It's not a joke.Zoom isn't fast.All he is doing is walking in a different plane of speed.
 
I'm real busy on this.
#34 Posted by _Beastmaster_ (1513 posts) - - Show Bio
@Susanoo said:
@Night_Rake said:


                    @Susanoo: Zoom was only created to make people think Flash isn't "The Fastest there is!"
@Sgtcrispy: Not to a battle,but physically,Zoom isn't fast at all.

                   

               
Zoom was created the same reason why Doomsday was created.
AKA a plot device.
#35 Posted by mark5 (1207 posts) - - Show Bio

Can't say a person who runs or moves lightspeed can keep up or even be aware of someone who people moving hundreds of times light speed can't even see.  

#36 Edited by cascadeking09 (6699 posts) - - Show Bio
@cap_a_rules said:

@Super_SoldierXII: super sonic is faster than zoon and must stronger wonder woman 

What does this mean in English?
@Sgtcrispy said:
@Night_Rake said:
Zoom isn't fast at all :P
And Superboy Isn't strong.

Lol and Batman isn't smart.
#37 Posted by HumanNumber (1453 posts) - - Show Bio
@Susanoo said:
@HumanNumber said:


                    @cap_a_rules said:

@Super_SoldierXII: super sonic is faster than zoon and must stronger wonder woman 

                   

               
Unless Super Sonic possess infinite speed, he isn't faster than Zoom.

                   

               
If his speed were truly infinite, Superman and Flash wouldn't be able to see him at all. Not as a blur but not at all. Also, his punches would destroy almost everything if this were true. His speed is not infinite.
Zoom suffers from major CIS, he holds back a ton becuase he thinks he can make Flash, WW, ect better heroes by hurting them physically and emotionally. Zoom doesn't have any reason to hold back here, so he's going to be 100 percent. At one point Zoom was going so fast that Superman was a statue in comparison and Flash had to gain infinite speed to be on equal terms with him. Zoom can basically stop time in relation to himself.
#38 Posted by Susanoo (5868 posts) - - Show Bio
@HumanNumber
Again, using science and logic, if Zooms speed were even remotely  close to "infinite", then he would be abstract level.
#39 Edited by HumanNumber (1453 posts) - - Show Bio
@Susanoo: He stops time in relation to himself, so speed is irrelevant when you have as much time as you want to throw as many punches and cross as many miles as needed. This emulates infinite speed.
#40 Posted by Susanoo (5868 posts) - - Show Bio
@HumanNumber said:


                    @Susanoo: He stops time in relation to himself, so speed is irrelevant when you have as much time as you want to throw as many punches and cross as many miles as needed. This emulates infinite speed.

                   

               

He doesn't stop time, he exists in a different time zone. It was proven by one of the Flashes and further supported when he woke up (His powers are automatic concluding he lives in a different time zone. Infinite speed = abstract level. Odin can manipulate time and that doesn't mean he's above skyfather.
#41 Posted by HumanNumber (1453 posts) - - Show Bio
@Susanoo: Jay Garrick explains how his powers work. Zoom exists on a separate but parallel timestream that's slightly ahead of the main timestream, he can control how fast he moves along his timestream. Zoom can simply stop moving along his timestream, effectively stopping time itself.
#42 Posted by Susanoo (5868 posts) - - Show Bio
@HumanNumber said:


                    @Susanoo: Jay Garrick explains how his powers work. Zoom exists on a separate but parallel timestream that's slightly ahead of the main timestream, he can control how fast he moves along his timestream. Zoom can simply stop moving along his timestream, effectively stopping time itself.

                   

               

That's theory #3.
#43 Edited by HumanNumber (1453 posts) - - Show Bio
@Susanoo: It's not a theory, it's how his powers work and it's what he's capable of.
#44 Posted by Susanoo (5868 posts) - - Show Bio
@HumanNumber said:


                    @Susanoo: It's not a theory, it's how his powers work and it's what he's capable of.

                   

               

I highly doubt it. Using that logic, anyone who can time manipulate on the level of Odin can do the same thing.
#45 Posted by MrDirector786 (43698 posts) - - Show Bio
@Cosmic_Falcon said:
Stalemate, SS can't hit Zoom, Zoom can't hurt Super Sonic. 
#46 Posted by MrDirector786 (43698 posts) - - Show Bio
@Susanoo said:
@Super_SoldierXII said:


                    Can you give an idea as to the extent of Super Sonic's abilities? If I had to base it off the video game icon and cartoon, then Zoom stomps ... but Super Sonic sounds like an Amped version ...

                   

               

 
 
Technically, the whole zone was only destroyed because it had no chaos emeralds in it anymore. I've read that comic as well as another comic and it's stated that it was destroyed because there were no chaos emeralds. And there was another issue where Robotnik took a chaos emerald from a zone and it fell apart as well. If you want, I can also provide scans to prove this.
#47 Edited by Devias (293 posts) - - Show Bio
@alcoholbob said:

@Jezer said:

@mark5 said:


                    Zoom don't know who Super Sonic even is.

                   

               
How do you figure Zoom wins if you don't even know who Super Sonic is?  Like, what logical process did you go through in your mind to come to that conclusion?
Just like how Superman automatically wins on the Comic Vine. You don't even need to read who he's facing. He just wins.
That is false. Superman's capabilities are frequently challenged. His 'vs Sentry' and 'vs Gladiator' threads alone span hundreds of posts.
#48 Posted by Susanoo (5868 posts) - - Show Bio
@MrDirector786 said:


                    @Susanoo said:

@Super_SoldierXII said:


                    Can you give an idea as to the extent of Super Sonic's abilities? If I had to base it off the video game icon and cartoon, then Zoom stomps ... but Super Sonic sounds like an Amped version ...

                   

               


  Technically, the whole zone was only destroyed because it had no chaos emeralds in it anymore. I've read that comic as well as another comic and it's stated that it was destroyed because there were no chaos emeralds. And there was another issue where Robotnik took a chaos emerald from a zone and it fell apart as well. If you want, I can also provide scans to prove this.

                   

               

I trust your word for it but I would like to see scans though :3
#49 Posted by MrDirector786 (43698 posts) - - Show Bio
@Susanoo
 
Here's the scan from the issue where Super Sonic fights Hyper Knuckles. It's stated that there were no chaos emeralds in the zone to keep it together.
 
 
Here's the scans of Robotnik taking a chaos emerald from a zone causing it to start collapsing.
 
 
#50 Posted by Nefarious (23583 posts) - - Show Bio

Zoom should win. I mean, he has feats that put him above Super Sonics.

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