Super Skrull, Superman, and Hulk vs Silver Surfer

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Super Skrull

Superman Pre-52/New-52 feats

Hulk

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Silver Surfer

Takes place in NYC

To the death

Team is morals off and bloodlusted

No prep

Who wins and why?

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Silver Surfer.

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Hulk and Superman are non-factors, they both get handled quickly. Surfer proceeds to destroy Super Skrull within moments. Surfer stomps.

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The only threat to Silver Surfer here is Superman and even he faces defeat to the herald.

The Silver Surfer easily defeats the Hulk and Super-Skrull.

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#5  Edited By mjolnirson

in this forum SS, Flash well... all the "speedsters" are so overated, Superman could solo, he may lose, but he can solo, with help the team wins.

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@mjolnirson: No version of superman except maybe thought robot, silver age or one million would defeat surfer

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Silver Surfer.

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@mjolnirson: When you think fast enough that light looks slow to you and you could also move at the same speed no one could touch you or see you therefore they can't win. Anyways, SS usually wins because of his other powers imo, he busts stars and could bust solar systems, he's cool though. I never view him as a speedster though, he's more than that

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#9  Edited By ManInTheMountain

@mjolnirson: superman might react faster, but surfer's versatility and his other incredible powers give him the win.

Hulk and Super Skrull are non factors.

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@maninthemountain: I'm not sure Superman even reacts as fast. I've seen scans where SS assessed his situation, decided a course of action and then react all within a single nano-second, that's impressive.

Anyway SS defeats Superman and Hulk so easily because he could drain/transmutate them. He has so many abilities that he really shouldn't lose to anyone below Thanos level.

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@cregan_stark: SS might have trouble with Wally West and Death Seed Sentry though.

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Which Hulk? Anything over WWH would solo the surfer

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@thorboy2221: HAAAHAHAHAHAA

Hulk fanboys are hilarious. SS drained Hulk to a puny human effortlessly and while APOLOGIZING. Regular (not powerless) Surfer will absolutely CRUSH and EVISCERATE Hulk's corpse.

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@maninthemountain: that happened a long time ago. He wouldn't be able to do it to WWH or WB Hulk. Besides, WWH nearly killed the Surfer during their last fight. Luckily he was saved. Would you like scans? The were both depowered in the fight, but the Hulk completely crushed him. Oh and I'm a Thor fan. You know thor, the one guy who always owns the surfer :)

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@thorboy2221: lol show me the scans, no Hulk would defeat Surfer that's ridiculous. And Classic Thor always defeats Classic Surfer, but how many times have he defeated Current Surfer?? Never. Thor gets weaker over the years, while Norrin gets stronger and stronger. SS nearly fries Thor with a warning shot, and at worst stalemated an enraged Thor. Gets beaten by Thor all the time? Haha you are one funny comedian.

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@maninthemountain: do you want scans? It happened wile they were on Planet Skaar. I can give you scans in 20 mins. And did you say surfer is getting stronger?? Haha my turn to laugh. Would you like scans of him getting beat by JOKE characters? I can even start with a street leveler if you like.

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#19  Edited By ManInTheMountain

@thorboy2221: what does that prove? So getting beat by street level characters because of extreme PIS and WIS makes them extraordinary weak? Thanos got arrested by cops, Darkseid tripped over stairs, does that make them weak? But if you insist, enlighten me with Surfer's defeats.

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Ss is overrated on this site. He rarely, if ever, uses his combat speed. Thor and him are evenly matched sometimes during their fights for crying out loud. And we all know how abysmal thors combat speed is.

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The only actual threat here is Super Skrull (@cosmicallyaware1 knows more on Supes Skrull than i do) unfortunately even he cant face Silver Surfer

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@maninthemountain: First answer my question. What makes you think that Surfer can still drain the Hulk? He was owned by WWH on plant Skaar (both had obedient disks), he was owned by Skaar when he first arrived on Skaar, and he was owned by the Red Hulk (obviously juiced up though). He hasn't shown to absorb in a very long time, and he hasn't shown to absorb a hulk on WWH mode or higher. World war hulk ran through all the heroes on earth while the surfer gets pawned by Black Panther. Hulk would destroy the Surfer.

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@karazor-el: that's because Surfer is a pacifist and Thor is a bloodlusted warrior with anger management issues. But when Current Surfer gets angry, it's been proven that he has defeated everyone on his level.

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@thorboy2221: what does that prove? So getting beat by street level characters because of extreme PIS and WIS makes them extraordinary weak? Thanos got arrested by cops, Darkseid tripped over stairs, does that make them weak? But if you insist, enlighten me with Surfer's defeats.

Thorboy is an insane troll who likes to downplay Silver Surfer on an extreme scale... dont acknowledge him it wont be worth your time

Ss is overrated on this site. He rarely, if ever, uses his combat speed. Thor and him are evenly matched sometimes during their fights for crying out loud. And we all know how abysmal thors combat speed is.

yeah and Gambit has beat Gladiator, Wolverine has stabbed Gladiator, Thor has fought Gladiator 3 times evenly... YET SOMEHOW we think Gladiator has nano-second reaction time. Why? because hes shown it before.

accept that not everytime a character uses his speed or ima start with Deathstroke stabbing flash so he should pretty much stomp everything.

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@maninthemountain: and thats completely fine and true. But his character makes a massive difference.

So unless thisbis morals off. Superman probably solos

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#26  Edited By BetaRayz8317

Hulk will solo. He did this while they both were powered down. No one has shown to drain any power from world war hulk.

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#27  Edited By ManInTheMountain

Sorry Hulk is not soloing this one because A: this is not WW Hulk or WB Hulk, the op didn't state that so we go by normal versions B: Any version of Hulk has no reaction time or power to defeat the Silver Surfer. LOEBFORCE RULK defeated SS, this version of Rulk beat everyone even Thanos.

Regular Hulk gets drained by morals on Surfer

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#28  Edited By BetaRayz8317

@maninthemountain: surfer has only beaten any Hulk one time (the time he was drained), but he has been owned by at least three different hulks (as stated above). Any Hulk besides his most basic form can beat Surfer. Savage Hulk was even getting the better of warrior madness Thor before their fight was broken up. The same warrior madness thor that about killed Silver Surfer before he was saved by warlock. Hulk or Supe solo dolo

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#29  Edited By lurchadamo

Surfer holds back all the time, he only ever uses a fraction of his power. With his current power set he stomps. he created a singularity that destroyed a galaxy, the other 3 combined even come close to that?

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Anyone on team solos

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#31  Edited By ManInTheMountain

@betarayz8317:

1. Hulk has only defeated depowered Surfer, Surfer with no access to any of his abilities except strength. SS is not known for strength, while hitting is what Hulk does best. Surfer didn't even have his surfboard, he couldn't fly, he couldn't even shoot cosmic blasts! What do you expect?

2. You use ABC logic? Lol you should know by now that ABC logic doesn't work. But if we go by that, since Surfer beat the crap out of Beta Ray Bill who is equal to Thor, he should do the same to Thor right? Scathan, who is below Living Tribunal, can defeat Protege but LT can't? Superman, who gets beat by Cyborg Superman all the time, can defeat Darkseid but Why can't Hank beat Darkseid?

3. Superman is not defeating Surfer, an extreme energy manipulator who can literally drain all of the solar energy or change the sun to red. That's like saying Superman beating an opponent covered in kryptonite.

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Team wrecks horribly. Surfer struggles against less than decent characters, so I've never seen him as being a "team buster."

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Team

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#34  Edited By cosmicallyaware1

@dondave said:

Team

no way.

@lol said:

Anyone on team solos

absurd.

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@newblood2333: except getting hit by Storm (PIS), name at least 3 "less than decent" characters that have beaten Silver Surfer.

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@karazor-el: that's because Surfer is a pacifist and Thor is a bloodlusted warrior with anger management issues. But when Current Surfer gets angry, it's been proven that he has defeated everyone on his level.

Thor's magic also comes into play. Mjolinir can equal anything Surfer does. No one in this team has anything like Mjolinir to assist them.

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Team 2 should win here.

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Morals on Surfer kicked Bill's ass while apologizing, not sure what this team is going to do to him. Maybe he'll get overloaded in the end though. Morals off? He stomps.

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Superman is the only challenge and you all know my Opinion

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#43  Edited By ManInTheMountain

@betarayz8317: hello? Are you dead?

Obviously you do not understand the power of the Silver Surfer, and the only thing you've done was show the low end feats of SS, while he was completely POWERLESS.

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f98/t459252.html

If you go to this respect thread, there are multiple scans of Surfer owning Hulk, God Cable, Super Skrull, Beta Ray Bill, Nova Prime, Morg, Ravenous, Uni Lord, Carnage, etc

There are like 3 different secenarios where SS crushes Hulk.

A Silver Surfer with all of his abilities is NOT losing to Hulk or Superman, please just stop

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Surfer honestly stomps.

Im not sure how this is arguable.

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with Pre52 Superman's speed and New52's raw strength,they could pull it off

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Hulk and Superman get drained. SuperSkrull goes down after that

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#47  Edited By Kingant27

Lol at the people saying team.

In all seriousness, the Silver Surfer stomps.

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with Pre52 Superman's speed and New52's raw strength,they could pull it off

Where has Post Crisis Superman ever shown speed even remotely on Norrin's level?

Post Crisis-Clark was keeping up with Jay Garrick.

Silver Surfer is in Wally's ballpark.

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#49  Edited By dorukesin

@db14 said:

@dorukesin said:

with Pre52 Superman's speed and New52's raw strength,they could pull it off

Where has Post Crisis Superman ever shown speed even remotely on Norrin's level?

Post Crisis-Clark was keeping up with Jay Garrick.

Silver Surfer is in Wally's ballpark.

  1. When Hal Jordan dilated the time within a fraction of nanosecond(picoseconds),Clark was still able to move and talk like nothings happened.That puts him above to Silver Surfer or Jay Garrick
  2. Post Crisis Clark is slightly faster than Jay Garrick.They're mostly matched yes but Clark passed him on the finishline "DC 1st: Flash / Superman #1 (2002)"
  3. Until you'll show better scans,Silver Surfer is on nanoseconds.Wally is faster than Planck Time.Wally's like multi-centillion times faster than him
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The Surfer should win this