Sunspot VS Human Torch
Bump. How does Torch win? He can absorb heat into his body and actually lower Torch's temperature and raise it. Roberto's got this.
Thermokinesis: ability to project heat in intense waves when he absorbs and re-channels solar energy from any part of his body to raise the temperature. Roberto can also absorb heat into his body to lower the temperature in his immediate area. He can also project and absorb heat directly into/from people, causing intense discomfort at their fluctuating body temperatures
Torch doesn't have a prayer, He also WAY outclasses him physically in every way.Not only do his blast have heat properties,it also has concussive force at about 25 tonnes. More than enough to knock out and probably kill Torch.
" @Dark Cloud™ said:" Sunspot stomps. "How? "
Thermokinesis: ability to project heat in intense waves when he absorbs and re-channels solar energy from any part of his body to raise the temperature. Roberto can also absorb heat into his body to lower the temperature in his immediate area. He can also project and absorb heat directly into/from people, causing intense discomfort at their fluctuating body temperatures
as you can see, Sunspot would just lower Torch's temp to the point where his powers are useless. He is also immune to heat. So Torch would have to go H2H but how is he going H2H against an over 50 tonner? Sunspot STOMPS.
"@Gremlin From Kremlin said:" @Dark Cloud™ said:" Sunspot stomps. "How? "Thermokinesis: ability to project heat in intense waves when he absorbs and re-channels solar energy from any part of his body to raise the temperature. Roberto can also absorb heat into his body to lower the temperature in his immediate area. He can also project and absorb heat directly into/from people, causing intense discomfort at their fluctuating body temperatures
as you can see, Sunspot would just lower Torch's temp to the point where his powers are useless. He is also immune to heat. So Torch would have to go H2H but how is he going H2H against an over 50 tonner? Sunspot STOMPS.
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That's how. Sunspot takes this with ease in less than 10 seconds.
torch stomps this mutant in to the ground. johnny controls fire and temperature. since his encounter with galactus he has matter manipulation and also cosmic control rod.
Tom Cassidy a old man wit little spark owned sunspot so did dead pool torch so please don't say sunspot outclasses him deadpool even said sunspot is horrible fighter for all the power he has torch would probably do beta in danger room than bobby and o yea torch not only spars wit ff4 he spars wit spider man
Good fight. Johnny has more impressive flying speed and skill, so he could evade Roberto to keep the fight a ranged battle and buy him time to outthink him. I think Sunspot is immune to heat (could be wrong since I haven't read him in forever) so I'm nit sure Johnny can hurt him.
Sunspot wins because of his immunity to heat.....actually Johnny powers will only make Roberto stronger. The torch cant possibly win here
@ghost_rider1: torch is immunity to fire to son.
torch stomps this mutant in to the ground. johnny controls fire and temperature. since his encounter with galactus he has matter manipulation and also cosmic control rod.
I still say sunspot. Sunspot dnt need to use fire attacks. His strength is enough to kill or ko Johnny with a single punch.
@ghost_rider1: No he's not. Johnny has tanked hits from stronger characters.
Sunspot is stronger and more durable than HT by a lont shot but johnny is a much better manipulator of fire and thermal energy, as well as a more skilled flier. As long as HT keeps his distance he can win because his max output is higher than sunspots but if sunspot closes the gap he wrings his neck
Bobby honeslty has a better powerset but he is very very arrogant, Johnny will beat him by using his brain and experience.
Sunspot would murder him look at his power set ; Solar Radiation Absorption: absorbs solar energy and can utilize it for physical strength. The cells of a normal human body convert energy from foodstuffs into a form of energy usable by the body. This energy is stored through converting molecules of adenosine diphosphate (ADP) in the cells into adenosine triphosphate (ATP); the energy is released when necessary by breaking a chemical bond in the ATP molecules, converting them back to ADP. Apparently Sunspot can store solar-derived energy in his cells through the same, or a similar method, and release it when necessary to enhance his physical strength. His body is cloaked in darkness because he drains all the ambient light from his skin.
Solar Re-channeling: ability to re-channel the solar energy which his body absorbs, by which he takes the solar energy and uses it for a variety of related purposes.
◾Flight: ability to fly by propelling himself through the air, by force of will, by generating thermal updrafts. Bobby has also refined this ability to be able to hover in the air without leaving a heat trail, and can reach speeds of up to 150 mph maximum without over exerting himself.
◾Enhanced Strength: When Sunspots cells are powered by solar energy he has the superhuman ability to augment his physical strength. The original limits of his strength was that of 25 tons. Since then however his strength has increased to 50 tons. Before his super human strength could only be accessed when he was in his solar powered form but Roberto has been seen using his strength when out of his darkened form. The limits as to how much strength he is able to access outside of this form are unknown.
◾Limited Durability: Sunspot is one of the interesting powerhouses of the marvel universe due to the fact that he is one of the only that does not have a heightened sense of invulnerability. During many of the comics that Sunspot was seen in his team mates would remind him that he was super strong but not super durable. Although Sunspot has not been seen able to deflect bullets his limited durability does provide his body the needed protection to be able to lift the massive weight that his super strength allows him to. Recently, Sunspot has been seen to withstand the impact of a eighteen-wheeler moving at 100 mph and remain nearly unharmed.
◾Thermokinesis: ability to project heat in intense waves when he absorbs and re-channels solar energy from any part of his body to raise the temperature. Roberto can also absorb heat into his body to lower the temperature in his immediate area. He can also project and absorb heat directly into/from people, causing intense discomfort at their fluctuating body temperatures.
◾Thermokinetic Concussive/Energy Blasts: During Sunspots time with X-Force he was kidnapped by a supervillain named Gideon who performed various experiments on him. Gideon exposed Sunspots body to massive amounts of solar energy in order to test the limits of his solar absorption. After these experiments Sunspots body was overloaded with solar energy and he later gained the ability to fire blasts of heat and concussive force.
◾Limited Photokinesis: ability to project light in intense waves when he absorbs and re-channels solar energy, and absorb ambient wavelengths.
◾Dark Solar Plasma Blasts: ability to project concussive dark plasma energy blasts from his hands, with about 20 tons of force behind them at their most powerful.
◾Fire and Heat Immunity: As is the norm with most pyrokinetics, Sunspot is immune to all forms of Heat and Fire as they simply add to his abilities and his mutant metabolism is able to simply convert these two forms and augment his abilities. This includes heat powers that are directed at him as well as heat that is present because of weather conditions. Sunspot has also been seen with the ability to absorb the energy that fire gives off and has remained unharmed while walking through it.
Sunspot still beats him. Johnny fire attacks is useless here.
they have pretty much the same power only johnny shows a better control over it what can sunspot do that johnny can't
@dami24434: Well, it's a bit of a complicated story but I can simplify it.
Sunspot got infected with M-Pox, causing his powers to go haywire and much stronger than they already were, though using them aged him prematurely, so Toni Ho made a regulator headband for him
The reason he could move that planetary weight was because he turned his headband off to be able to increase his strength by a landslide, though this aged him a bit.
@geckomanpro: well he did say he is stronger than gladiator in the current new mutant comic.. heck he said he's faster than gladiator
@dami24434: Exactly. Though that may not be true, Sunspot would still decimate Human Torch as he is immune to pretty much all of his attacks. He was also confirmed to be "Hulk-Levels" in terms of strength and assisted Hercules in holding the entire planet from collapsing in on itself.
@rajjarbulk: You forget to realise that Sunspot is immune to any level of heat, and he can absorb it to just increase his power anyway thanks to his thermokinesis. And you're forgetting his Concussive Blasts, though he might be unable to punch Torch, he can still shoot beams at hin. Which have been able to knock down/out Silver Surfer
@rajjarbulk: What's stopping from saying he can't absorb that level of energy? It's never been said that there's a limit to how much he can absorb, which was also somewhat proven to have no limits as he can absorb as much as he wants to increase his overall strength and power. I'm also not sure how to post images onto here but I do have the image of Surfer being knocked back by Sunspot's blast.
@rajjarbulk: Didn't you tell me that Sunspot's time with M-Pox wasn't counted as an argument as it isn't his base form? Why are you now using it as part of your own argument? Besides, it wasn't the fact that he was absorbing the power that aged him. It was using it for prolonged periods of time. Not to mention that whilst he was on Asgard his powers were stronger due to it being closer to more stars. Which simply proves that he's able to absorb as much as he wants just as long as he's in their range.
You also state how he had a limit to how much Gamma Radiation he could absorb. And while that's true, it's also because Gamma Radiation isn't his primary energy, hence why he couldn't absorb as much. Whereas he's able to absorb as much solar and heat energy as he can, but can't because of situations such as Earth only being close to a single star and whatnot.
@rajjarbulk: I guess we are. I suppose it could be the lack of feats Sunspot has, so hopefully that may change in the future. Though I enjoyed this discussion.
Final question, what's with your typing style? It looks like you're implementing an accent through text.
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