Sub-Zero vs Edward Cullen

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Fight in the woods

Fight to the death

Sub-zero can generate and control ice.Sub-zero can can transform his body into a liquefied state, solid state or transform his body into solid ice at will.

Edward Cullen has superhuman speed, strength, healing factor and night vision. He also can read minds.

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Sub Zero.

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Sub zero dies horrible.

Speed blitz.

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Edward speed blitz.

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Sub-Zero

People this fast usually jobbing in MK

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Sub Zero can deal with Kabal who can also blitz and has superhuman speed. Kabal's H2H skills are also far beyond Cullen's. The vampire has nothing that Sub Zero hasn't dealt with before. This is a bit of a stomp for Sub Zero.

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@cyberzombie_hatchetman said:

Sub Zero can deal with Kabal who can also blitz and has superhuman speed. Kabal's H2H skills are also far beyond Cullen's. The vampire has nothing that Sub Zero hasn't dealt with before. This is a bit of a stomp for Sub Zero.

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But Sub-Zero never fought Kabal but he still several league above him

So, your point is still stand

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@khael said:
@cyberzombie_hatchetman said:

Sub Zero can deal with Kabal who can also blitz and has superhuman speed. Kabal's H2H skills are also far beyond Cullen's. The vampire has nothing that Sub Zero hasn't dealt with before. This is a bit of a stomp for Sub Zero.

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But Sub-Zero never fought Kabal but he still several league above him

So, your point is still stand

If they have never fought, how do we know Subs could keep up?

Sub-Zero's best speed feats are dodging missles, so about Mach 1ish. That, plus his ice manipulation (To slick the ground and such.) may allow him to avoid getting completely blitzed. After that it's all about actually hurting Edward though, which is unlikely. While he eventually could, it would take a couple shots to actually put him down. And Edward will most likely catch and kill Subs before that happens, since he can pretty much one shot.

I'll admit this is a better fight than I first thought though.

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@joewell said:
@khael said:
@cyberzombie_hatchetman said:

Sub Zero can deal with Kabal who can also blitz and has superhuman speed. Kabal's H2H skills are also far beyond Cullen's. The vampire has nothing that Sub Zero hasn't dealt with before. This is a bit of a stomp for Sub Zero.

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But Sub-Zero never fought Kabal but he still several league above him

So, your point is still stand

If they have never fought, how do we know Subs could keep up?

Sub-Zero's best speed feats are dodging missles, so about Mach 1ish. That, plus his ice manipulation (To slick the ground and such.) may allow him to avoid getting completely blitzed. After that it's all about actually hurting Edward though, which is unlikely. While he eventually could, it would take a couple shots to actually put him down. And Edward will most likely catch and kill Subs before that happens, since he can pretty much one shot.

I'll admit this is a better fight than I first thought though.

I'm talking about league in MK, Kabal is still several league below Sub-Zero. But he was at least supersonic. Sub-Zero also dealt with a guy that can easily teleport behind him and stab him in the back.

Sub-Zero freeze him and rip his head off, he can put Edward down

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@khael: That doesn't make Sub-Zero anywhere near as fast as Kabal. Unless he directly fights and reacts to him, you can't not claim he wouldn't get blitzed.

Just because he's more powerful, doesn't mean he faster. Is Hulk faster than Flash because he is a lot stronger? No.

Why couldn't Edward dodge? All of Sub-Zero's attacks require direct touch or an ice ball, so Edward has the speed to completely avoid that. Or he could break out of the ice, since he's about a 2 tonner.

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@khael said:
@cyberzombie_hatchetman said:

Sub Zero can deal with Kabal who can also blitz and has superhuman speed. Kabal's H2H skills are also far beyond Cullen's. The vampire has nothing that Sub Zero hasn't dealt with before. This is a bit of a stomp for Sub Zero.

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But Sub-Zero never fought Kabal but he still several league above him

So, your point is still stand

Is there a specific Mortal Kombat canon we follow for the MK fights (I'm genuinly asking, not trying to be snide). I've always just assumed that everyone playable in the game has the capability of beating everyone else who is playable in the game with an "any given Sunday" type of logic, so I just assume Zero has a way of dealing with blitz's and teleporting foes and that those aren't instant wins since he would normally encounter with them in the game.

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Sub Zero because Twilight SUCKS BAAAALLLLLLLLLLSSSSS

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@joewell said:

@khael: That doesn't make Sub-Zero anywhere near as fast as Kabal. Unless he directly fights and reacts to him, you can't not claim he wouldn't get blitzed.

Just because he's more powerful, doesn't mean he faster. Is Hulk faster than Flash because he is a lot stronger? No.

Why couldn't Edward dodge? All of Sub-Zero's attacks require direct touch or an ice ball, so Edward has the speed to completely avoid that. Or he could break out of the ice, since he's about a 2 tonner.

Still, Sub-Zero match-up and beat a lightning timer.

Many people in MK above 2 tonner, he freeze Kintaro that destroy bridge easily

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@khael: Scorpion? Scorpion never dodged lightning, he avoided Raiden's "aim" with teleportation. Nor has Sub-Zero beat Scorpion in recent years.

When did he freeze Kintaro and when did Kintaro destroy a bridge?

And once again, why can't Edward just dodge?

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@joewell said:

@khael: Scorpion? Scorpion never dodged lightning, he avoided Raiden's "aim" with teleportation. Nor has Sub-Zero beat Scorpion in recent years.

When did he freeze Kintaro and when did Kintaro destroy a bridge?

And once again, why can't Edward just dodge?

Scorpion react to lightning Thunder
Scorpion react to lightning Thunder

Kuai Liang use to beat Hanzo

Here's feats for Goro (I can't find feats for Kintaro)

Lift and bend steel
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Destroy car with one punch
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Edward can't dodge because Sub-Zero tag lightning timer in regular basis

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@khael: At no point in that scan is he dodging lightning. He's just teleporting so fast Raiden can't accurately zap him.

Cool, now show Sub-Zero freezing Goro.

Scorpion is just peak human in speed, if that. Edward is faster.

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Edward Cullen stomps in less than 10 seconds!

Is this serious?

I don't like Twilight but I am not unreasonable.

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#19  Edited By Khael

@joewell said:

@khael: At no point in that scan is he dodging lightning. He's just teleporting so fast Raiden can't accurately zap him.

Cool, now show Sub-Zero freezing Goro.

Scorpion is just peak human in speed, if that. Edward is faster.

No Raiden was accurate, Scorpion just dodge it via teleporting. I don't really care what you say, I just gave you legit scan and you starting to say weird things

hmmmm, Wondering did you play MK9? He freeze Kano, Goro and Kintaro at the same time, Sub-Zero can just finish Goro without interference.

Scorpion can teleport and he have thunder speed reaction time

Teleport > superspeed especially this is not superspeed like Quicksilver or Flash. It's different case

Anyway, Kintaro tagged Kabal

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But he got blitz by Sub-Zero

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#20  Edited By Joewell911

@khael: Imma just back away now. Someone else can take my place here if they want, but I no longer desire to be in this debate.

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@khael: I mean, I probably could, I just don't feel like it atm. Plus I'm defending a Twilight character. That's a Class Five Violation of The International Manliness Code.

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Sub Zero stomps. He has teleportation, is stronger, and is substantially more skilled. All he has to do is freeze Cullen and he is finished.

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I feel like Sub Zero should win this one.

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I feel like Sub Zero should win this one.

That's because he probably does.

Strength:

Freezes and break through a thick wall:

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Freezes and breaks through a metal door:

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Durability:

Survives being near a big explosion that shatters his Ice and sends him flying, and is relatively unharmed by it:

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Takes Sektor's rocket punch and is still conscious with little damage:

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Tanked a bloodlusted Scorpion's Hellfire:

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Kuai Liang is a pretty durable dude.

Speed:

After breaking through a Metal door, he quickly slides under a missle:

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Leaps out of the way of Sektor's missle:

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Edward isn't harming him quickly enough with his AP.

And Sub-Zero can react to him by feats, and freeze before one-shotting him.