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Galan has feasted upon 10 planets.

Across the multiverse.

Win by any means necessary.

STTGL is bloodlusted.

Fighting inside a force field breaching over and across the multiverse.

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Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann takes this easily.

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STTGl ROLFLMAOLOLSTUPIDLALALAULTRAMEGASUPERBIONICKINGDOMCOMECHAOTICSURPREMEOMGAREYOUSERIOUSSTOMPS

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#4  Edited By homicidalmaniac

@aenvus said:

Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann takes this easily.

How so?

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Try facing a 52.8 billion light years tall transcendent godlike being made of an immeasurable mass of spiral energy that has a Giga Drill 10 times the size of STTGL that can pierce the multiverse within a nanosecond.

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#6  Edited By homicidalmaniac

@aenvus said:

Try facing a 52.8 billion light years tall transcendent godlike being made of an immeasurable mass of spiral energy that has a Giga Drill 10 times the size of STTGL that can pierce the multiverse within a nanosecond.

Marvel's Death and Eternity are both multiverse level and show me the multiverse nanosecond feat.I only recall STTGL being mainly universe+ level in that Thought Robot Vs STTGL thread. People believe Thought Robot>STTGL in that thread

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STTGL tatakes this. And I thought Eternity was only universal?

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@homicidalmaniac: didnt it throw a universe. And that wasent even at the strongest.

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STTGL tatakes this. And I thought Eternity was only universal?

Eternity is multiverse level and the other Marvel's Abstracts like Oblivion,Infinity,and Death are equal to Eternity.

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#10 frozen  Moderator

STTGL tatakes this. And I thought Eternity was only universal?

Eternity has recreated the Multiverse.

Some people have Eternity as low as Galactus, which is sad.

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@homicidalmaniac: didnt it throw a universe. And that wasent even at the strongest.

Which character are you talking about?If STTGL I rememeber him throwing galaxies like throwing knifes.If Eternity,he held the Marvel Universe in his hands.Cosmic Cube characters did the holding the universe in hands feat before and they are a lot weaker than Eternity.

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#13  Edited By New_World_Order

Galactus is way out of his weight class here.

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#14  Edited By jeepeh
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Dai-Gurren Brigade defeated a Nigh Omnipotent-Omnipotent.

And he can still evolve further,

food for thought.

[edit] Sorry for the double post, complete argument below

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#15  Edited By jeepeh
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Dai-Gurren Brigade defeated a Nigh Omnipotent-Omnipotent.

Shoots missiles back in time and kill Galan before he was turned into Galactus? :P

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And exists in the 11th dimension or something (this means that all possible universes and alternate time lines are condensed to a single point in space)

Warps multiverses

And he can still evolve further,

food for thought.

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@sacredweapons: @jaken7: Those were Galaxy Clusters a big difference from plain ole Galaxies. Look at the comparasion video.

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STTGL has engine powered by universes

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@jeepeh:

I don't see any multiverses being warped. All I see is him absorbing light into his hand. Post the actual video and not these incoherent screen shots

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@frozen: Galactus and eternity ARE equals along with the other abstracts, and none are multiversal.

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@gymgoer205:

Eternity is multiversal. When Dormammu entered 616 Eternity he saw multiple universes being born inside him and said that this was just a small portion of what Eternity truly was.

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#21  Edited By frozen  Moderator

@gymgoer205 said:

@frozen: Galactus and eternity ARE equals along with the other abstracts, and none are multiversal.

It's NEVER been stated they are equals in POWER (equal in rank maybe, NOT power) --- there is a scan of the two SHAKING HANDS and showing respsect for each other, NOTHING stated they're equal in power.

A fully-fed Galactus in the I.G storyline fought Thanos and lost, when Thanos fought Eternity in the same comic, he stated that Galactus was nothing more than a foot soldier in comparison to Eternity.

Sorry, but eating a bunch of planets doesn't make Galactus Multiversal. I've debunked this in THIS thread.

Also, Eternity is Multiversal. He's re-created the Multiverse.

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#22  Edited By jwwprod

Either Eternity or Death solos. though I think STTGL vs Galactus is a good fight.

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seriously? this is ridiculous. eternity and death will not even notice this tiny thing, though him vs galactus should be an interesting fight.

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@etheral_dreams:

I'm not taking sides I'm just pointing out the fact there is a multi Eternity

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Galactus can't really be equal to Eternity because of the overall origin and nature of his power. Eternity is more powerful and does not require any form of sustenance.

@frozen said:

It's NEVER been stated they are equals in POWER (equal in rank maybe, NOT power) --- there is a scan of the two SHAKING HANDS and showing respsect for each other, NOTHING stated they're equal in power.

A fully-fed Galactus in the I.G storyline fought Thanos and lost, when Thanos fought Eternity in the same comic, he stated that Galactus was nothing more than a foot soldier in comparison to Eternity.

Sorry, but eating a bunch of planets doesn't make Galactus Multiversal. I've debunked this in THIS thread.

Also, Eternity is Multiversal. He's re-created the Multiverse.

I agree with you, although I'm fairly certain that Eternity is universal. There's supposed to be some multi-Eternity to represent multiple universes = the multiverse.

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Can't Death just kill the pilots?

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#29  Edited By Simon_the_digger

@jwwprod said:

Either Eternity or Death solos. though I think STTGL vs Galactus is a good fight.

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@shootingnova: that multi eternity was only shown once. eternity showed many times that he is multiversal, and represents the multiverse. he is also the one on the council of cosmic entities.

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#31  Edited By Van_Cere

@king1_icon: flagged for insulting and trying to start a flame war.

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Can't Death just kill the pilots?

the piolits are powerful to sttgl stomps death

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@van_cere: Fair enough. I don't know much on Multi-Eternity to begin with.

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#34  Edited By ShootingNova
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tiny? are you serious? STTGL lolmurderrapesshitstomps this is spite so gtfo troll

You're not in much of a position to be saying anything. You've never even presented an argument to begin with, aside from posting a long-winded stomp message with no evidence or at least clarification on why you think that's the case.

That, and what has STTGL even done? I didn't see much multiversal warping. I saw something about multiple universes, which I'm not sure if it's related or not, and then some seemingly non-sequitur images. I'd like some clarification on that.

The rest of his displayed feats aren't very impressive. I have no idea how powerful that "nigh-omnipotent character" is - Odin has been cited to be omnipotent before. As for firing missiles back in time, Eternity, as the embodiment of time itself, could negate that. And killing Galactus is unlikely. The missiles would have to travel back to the past universe, IIRC, which shouldn't be possible via raw time manipulation. That, and if it was possible, Death could decline to accept Galactus, meaning Galactus wouldn't die.

As others have stated, Eternity is at least universal, if not multiversal, and Death has obliterated the Cancerverse, to memory, so she would be at least universal as well (which makes perfect sense given how she is the polar opposite of Eternity). Galactus, after devouring four planets, could destroy a single Celestial. I'd assume that ten planets would grant him enough power to beat the entire four that challenged him, which should be a feat in of itself. A hungry Galactus's fights have already been multi-galaxy busting, let alone this, which would fast approaching a universal level.

We need more elucidation before we can draw any conclusion. Let's not hastily declare this as a mismatch. STTGL would have to be well above a multiversal-class in order to claim such a stomp, and absolutely nothing here even remotely indicates that.

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Eternity and Death solo, Galactus can possibly solo.

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@king1_icon said:

tiny? are you serious? STTGL lolmurderrapesshitstomps this is spite so gtfo troll

You're not in much of a position to be saying anything. You've never even presented an argument to begin with, aside from posting a long-winded stomp message with no evidence or at least clarification on why you think that's the case.

That, and what has STTGL even done? I didn't see much multiversal warping. I saw something about multiple universes, which I'm not sure if it's related or not, and then some seemingly non-sequitur images. I'd like some clarification on that.

The rest of his displayed feats aren't very impressive. I have no idea how powerful that "nigh-omnipotent character" is - Odin has been cited to be omnipotent before. As for firing missiles back in time, Eternity, as the embodiment of time itself, could negate that. And killing Galactus is unlikely. The missiles would have to travel back to the past universe, IIRC, which shouldn't be possible via raw time manipulation. That, and if it was possible, Death could decline to accept Galactus, meaning Galactus wouldn't die.

As others have stated, Eternity is at least universal, if not multiversal, and Death has obliterated the Cancerverse, to memory, so she would be at least universal as well (which makes perfect sense given how she is the polar opposite of Eternity). Galactus, after devouring four planets, could destroy a single Celestial. I'd assume that ten planets would grant him enough power to beat the entire four that challenged him, which should be a feat in of itself. A hungry Galactus's fights have already been multi-galaxy busting, let alone this, which would fast approaching a universal level.

We need more elucidation before we can draw any conclusion. Let's not hastily declare this as a mismatch. STTGL would have to be well above a multiversal-class in order to claim such a stomp, and absolutely nothing here even remotely indicates that.

wow this is sad

simon himself is a reality warper. ttgl is bigger than galexys and is a mega reality warper STTGL is multiverse plus u know what just watch this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9N-BuufhyU

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TTGL who is weaker than Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann already has multiversal feats. Through sheer willpower, they used Spiral Energy to escape from a maze of infinite universes in which their consciousnesses were trapped. They tracked Nia all the way to Super Spiral Space, an 11 Dimensional Universe far beyond our own. They have missiles that are able to shoot into any place in space and time and have a 100% probability (no matter what) of hitting the target. They have a ton of reality warping feats and defeated the Anti Spiral in their own Universe (this is like beating Cyttorak or Mephisto in their own dimension) and they were putting out so much energy that the universe would collapse as a result. They tank big bang level attacks like its nothing and have an infinite potential for evolution, evolving to meet each threat.

STTGL could and likely would evolve further until it is able of beating the Abstracts.

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#39  Edited By jeepeh

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@jeepeh:

I don't see any multiverses being warped. All I see is him absorbing light into his hand.

Being awfully picky aren't we?

Read the scans please.

They're trapped within a series of universes that are created instant to instant as they are perceived, even to the point that within the time it takes to say a sentence it has tripled in number. Simon then summons a core drill through sheer manliness after a speech from Kamina and warps them into the Robot,

If it's really that important to you,

http://www.animeget.com/tengen-toppa-gurren-lagann-movie-lagann-hen-2009

16 minutes in on the next to last video.

Warps his way out of/Busts/Escapes multiverse. Depends on your interpretation I suppose, but the feat is still there.

Do you know what it means to exist on the 11th dimension?

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#40  Edited By jwwprod

@king1_icon: @etheral_dreams: @jeepeh: @aenvus: You know that Eternity does actually have multiversal feats right?

When Dormammu usurped Eternity's powers he actually remade all creation (AKA the entire multiverse):

And to confirm that Dormammu actually recreated all creation (AKA the entire multiverse) there proof from Dormammu's sister "Umar":

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And Marvel's multiverse has always had a trans-infinite amount of universes and all universes being infinite in size.

And just before you ask no this is not the only multiversal feat that Eternity has.

In the story arc "Infinity Crusade" both Eternity and Infinity were both shown to be multiversal. same arc where Eternity was shown to hold universes (plural) in one of his hands. Same arc where both Eternity & Infinity didn't give a s**t about the 616-universe, because it seemed insignificant to them.

Hell the Celestials have recently been revealed to have been the ones who created the multiverse in the first place:

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And the Celestials posses trans-infinite power and dwarf Cosmic Cube beings (Who posses infinite power):

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And Cosmic Cube beings have shown to have created there own universes and hold universes in there hands:

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And yet they are all dwarfed by Eternity (As well as Death, Infinity & Oblivion)...............

So I do see how on earth STTGL is even going to be a challenge for Eternity alone......... Let alone both Eternity & Death together................

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@jwwprod:

But STTGL has Multiversal feats before the TTGL was even created, much less STTGL and much less before the final fist fight where Simon alone surpassed the Anti Spiral.

Imagining the tenth dimension, (skip the first part, they are mostly unimportant and will waste your time)

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Is eternity on the 10th dimension? Dai Gurren Brigade was imbetween the 10th and 11th dimensions in their fight.

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#42  Edited By jwwprod

@jeepeh: Show me prof that STTGL and Anti-Spiral was imbetween the 10th and 11th dimensions.

And even if STTGL & Anti-Spiral did have some multiversal feats, it still doesn't mean that they are on par with Eternity, Cosmic Cube beings like Kubik are multiversal and yet he admitted it that he is nothing compered to Celestials (Yet along Eternity).

Hell the fight between the Cosmic Cube versions of Molecule Man & Beyonder was Trans-Multiversal (AKA beyond multiverse) in scale:

And yet Molecule Man admited that they aren't on par with Eternity:

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I could go on but I think I've made my point.

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@jwwprod: Molecule Man must be above Eternity, if Molecule Man (as claimed) is above Living Tribunal, therefore logically he is above Eternity because the Living Tribunal was more powerful than I.G, whereas Eternity was not.

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@frozen said:

@jwwprod: Molecule Man must be above Eternity, if Molecule Man (as claimed) is above Living Tribunal, therefore logically he is above Eternity because the Living Tribunal was more powerful than I.G, whereas Eternity was not.

The scan you are looking that where Owen is saying that he's not on par with Eternity nor Living Tribunal is the Cosmic Cube version (AKA Post-Retcon Molecule Man) not Pre-Retcon Molecule Man.

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#45  Edited By frozen  Moderator

@jwwprod said:

@frozen said:

@jwwprod: Molecule Man must be above Eternity, if Molecule Man (as claimed) is above Living Tribunal, therefore logically he is above Eternity because the Living Tribunal was more powerful than I.G, whereas Eternity was not.

The scan you are looking that where Owen is saying that he's not on par with Eternity nor Living Tribunal is the Cosmic Cube version (AKA Post-Retcon Molecule Man) not Pre-Retcon Molecule Man.

I see.

Thanks for clarification.

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@frozen said:

@jwwprod said:

@frozen said:

@jwwprod: Molecule Man must be above Eternity, if Molecule Man (as claimed) is above Living Tribunal, therefore logically he is above Eternity because the Living Tribunal was more powerful than I.G, whereas Eternity was not.

The scan you are looking that where Owen is saying that he's not on par with Eternity nor Living Tribunal is the Cosmic Cube version (AKA Post-Retcon Molecule Man) not Pre-Retcon Molecule Man.

I see.

Thanks for clarification.

No problem.

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@jwwprod:

I already did above, but fine, here's a repost.

Those multiversal feats were done BEFORE making TTGL, Which then upgraded into STTGL, which then was surpassed in power by Simon alone,

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#48  Edited By jwwprod

@jeepeh said:

@jwwprod:

I already did above, but fine, here's a repost.

Those multiversal feats were done BEFORE making TTGL, Which then upgraded into STTGL, which then was surpassed in power by Simon alone,

Have you looked that the scans I posted with Post-Retcon Beyonder & Molecule Man fighting on a Trans-Multiversal (AKA beyond multiverse) scale?

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#49  Edited By jeepeh

@jwwprod said:

@jeepeh said:

@jwwprod:

I already did above, but fine, here's a repost.

Those multiversal feats were done BEFORE making TTGL, Which then upgraded into STTGL, which then was surpassed in power by Simon alone,

Have you looked that the scans I posted with Post-Retcon Beyonder & Molecule Man fighting on a Trans-Multiversal (AKA beyond multiverse) scale?

Read the last sentence in the post I just showed.

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Any marvel solos in a hard fight hoever solos, in a team they stomp