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Posted by lowlaville (4014 posts) 11 months, 16 days ago

Poll: Strongest Reality Warper? (112 votes)

Alien X (Ben 10) 6%
Pre-retcon Beyonder (Marvel) 77%
Haruka Kaminogi (Noein) 2%
Franklin Richards (Marvel) 12%
Anodites (Ben 10) 1%
Trigon (Teen Titans, DC) 3%

Who is the strongest out of the listed reality warpers?

#1 Posted by Juiceboks (8546 posts) - - Show Bio

Beyonder..no contest.

#2 Posted by MonsterStomp (16997 posts) - - Show Bio

TOAA

#3 Posted by lowlaville (4014 posts) - - Show Bio

TOAA

What?..

also I believe Haruka is stronger. Dragon Torc can protect her from any obvious danger, on a multiversal scale. And then, she can just unexist everyone else? At least I think that could happen.

#4 Posted by Killemall (18556 posts) - - Show Bio

I am surprised the vote are equal between Pre Retcon Beyonder and Franklin Richards ... O_o... honestly they are not even in the same league.

#5 Edited by Juiceboks (8546 posts) - - Show Bio

@lowlaville said:

@monsterstomp said:

TOAA

What?..

also I believe Haruka is stronger. Dragon Torc can protect her from any obvious danger, on a multiversal scale. And then, she can just unexist everyone else? At least I think that could happen.

More powerful than the TOAA? I highly doubt a 12 year old girl is more powerful than the one true omnipotent in the MU.

#6 Edited by MonsterStomp (16997 posts) - - Show Bio

@lowlaville:

Who is the strongest out of the listed reality warpers?

I was being a troll when I said TOAA.

#7 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (16746 posts) - - Show Bio

PRB and haruka from what I heard, multiversal

Alien x and Franklin, universal+

Trigon

anodite.

#8 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (16746 posts) - - Show Bio

@lowlaville said:

@monsterstomp said:

TOAA

What?..

also I believe Haruka is stronger. Dragon Torc can protect her from any obvious danger, on a multiversal scale. And then, she can just unexist everyone else? At least I think that could happen.

More powerful than the TOAA? I highly doubt a 12 year old girl is more powerful than the one true omnipotent in the MU.

I think he/she/it meant stronger than prb, not toaa,,

#9 Posted by lowlaville (4014 posts) - - Show Bio

@lowlaville said:

@monsterstomp said:

TOAA

What?..

also I believe Haruka is stronger. Dragon Torc can protect her from any obvious danger, on a multiversal scale. And then, she can just unexist everyone else? At least I think that could happen.

More powerful than the TOAA? I highly doubt a 12 year old girl is more powerful than the one true omnipotent in the MU.

Oh.. you meat... TOAA - the one above all yes? I did not include him.

@killemall I highly doubt that. Franklin made someone as powerful as Galactus his herald.

#10 Posted by Killemall (18556 posts) - - Show Bio

@killemall I highly doubt that. Franklin made someone as powerful as Galactus his herald.

And PR Beyonder was single handedly superior to everyone in the marvel universe including Living Tribunal by significant margin to the point even after having used significant of his powers to kill death the remaining Abstract including LT didnt dare attack him.

He was a million times more powerful than all the powers in the multiverse combined.

Honestly neither Galactus not (Adult) Franklin Richard are anywhere close to him in terms of power.

#13 Edited by RBT (4144 posts) - - Show Bio

@lowlaville: Alien X is omnipotent. Matt Wayne, a show creator, said that. Twice.

#14 Posted by Juiceboks (8546 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt said:

@lowlaville: Alien X is omnipotent. Matt Wayne, a show creator, said that. Twice.

Didn't Dwayne later say that Alien X wasn't his most powerful alien? So Matt either lied, or was talking out of his ass at the time.

#15 Posted by randomcharachter (323 posts) - - Show Bio

Writer

#16 Posted by RBT (4144 posts) - - Show Bio

@Juiceboks: No. DM's statement came wayyy before MW's statement(which was a 2 days ago.) Anyways, seeing that DM no longer is a part of show(RIP), and MW and DJW has changed a lot in Ben 10 verse, what they say will be believed.

#17 Posted by Deadgod (1327 posts) - - Show Bio

PR Beyonder

#19 Posted by Juiceboks (8546 posts) - - Show Bio

How come there are no imps listed? You know the TRUE reality warpers. Mr. Mxy outclasses them all. His reality warping feats dwarf anything any of them have ever done. How come he isn't on the list?

Lemme guess..you've never read anything with Beyonder in it have you?

#20 Edited by RetconCrisis (3740 posts) - - Show Bio

Stan Lee

#21 Edited by PieHole (274 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol,Classic(Pre-Retcon) Beyonder.

And PR Beyonder was single handedly superior to everyone in the marvel universe including Living Tribunal by significant margin to the point even after having used significant of his powers to kill death the remaining Abstract including LT didnt dare attack him.

He was a million times more powerful than all the powers in the multiverse combined.

Honestly neither Galactus not (Adult) Franklin Richard are anywhere close to him in terms of power.

#22 Posted by lowlaville (4014 posts) - - Show Bio

Aliex X is omnipotent. It destroyed/created a universe. I guess none of you watched the episode where Kevin went around Alien X's body as a shield from attacks. In their dimension, the celestialsapeans nor Ben seemed even remotely concerned what was happening outside. This means, the body itself is invulnerable to harm. No amount of damage was doing anything to him.

Also, I agree with those of you saying Beyonder is a powerful multiversal being. But hey, so is Dragon Torc which exists inside Haruka, and her Ultimate Observer powers and multiversal probability control powers directly link to Haruka being a quantom anomaly. As was the case with Noein who was a former Human being, we can at least take it that Haruka has the ability to become just as wide spread. The same goes for Franklin Richards. He made Galactus his herald, a being that Living Tribunal had acknowledged as a cosmic being like no other.

Why I say Haruka takes it has more to do with the multiversal defensive necklace she has, the Dragon Torc. It activates to subconsciously make any threat blow away, even if that meant destablizing the dimensional warp so that the Dragon Knights could not stick to Harukas home dimension. They initially believed it was a fault in the dimension created by the Dragon Torc. What they failed to realize was it was done to prevent Haruka from being taken away.

Why Alien X probably don't take this has more to do with his expressed range more than anything. At best, he is a universal being. There is no known instance where he exceeds his range into the multiverse.

#23 Edited by Thanofleeze (2683 posts) - - Show Bio

Whatever Pre-Ret Boyonder wants... is.

End of story.

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#24 Posted by DrunkVader (794 posts) - - Show Bio

what about impossible man?

#25 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (16746 posts) - - Show Bio

Whatever Pre-Ret Boyonder wants... is.

End of story.

er.. it's the same for the rest of the people here.

#26 Edited by JwwProd (9211 posts) - - Show Bio

Pre Retcon Beyonder by billions of miles.

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#27 Posted by JwwProd (9211 posts) - - Show Bio

Though I think Mr. Mxyzptlk deserves a mention, he's more powerful then most of the characters listed in this poll.

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#28 Posted by Thanofleeze (2683 posts) - - Show Bio

@thanofleeze said:

Whatever Pre-Ret Boyonder wants... is.

End of story.

er.. it's the same for the rest of the people here.

You don't seem to get the point here...

Whatever Beyonder wants... IS.

There is no "other people"

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#29 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (16746 posts) - - Show Bio

@jwwprod said:

Though I think Mr. Mxyzptlk deserves a mention, he's more powerful then most of the characters listed in this poll.

mxy is NOT more powerful than pr beyonder. Just no.

#30 Posted by PrinceAragorn1 (16746 posts) - - Show Bio

@princearagorn1 said:

@thanofleeze said:

Whatever Pre-Ret Boyonder wants... is.

End of story.

er.. it's the same for the rest of the people here.

You don't seem to get the point here...

Whatever Beyonder wants... IS.

There is no "other people"

Actually, that's the point here.

whatever either of these six want.. IS.

We're trying to determine the degree of this: 'whatever he/she wants.. IS' as you like to call it.

That's why it's a poll.

#31 Posted by Thanofleeze (2683 posts) - - Show Bio
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#32 Posted by JwwProd (9211 posts) - - Show Bio

@jwwprod said:

Though I think Mr. Mxyzptlk deserves a mention, he's more powerful then most of the characters listed in this poll.

mxy is NOT more powerful than pr beyonder. Just no.

And when did I say that Mxy was more powerful then the Beyonder?

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#33 Edited by PrinceAragorn1 (16746 posts) - - Show Bio

@jwwprod said:

@princearagorn1 said:

mxy is NOT more powerful than pr beyonder. Just no.

And when did I say that Mxy was more powerful then the Beyonder?

didn't you say more powerful than most? I thought that included him..

#34 Edited by dccomicsrule2011 (24147 posts) - - Show Bio

Beyonder SLAUGHTERHOUSE.

#35 Edited by JwwProd (9211 posts) - - Show Bio

@jwwprod said:

@princearagorn1 said:

mxy is NOT more powerful than pr beyonder. Just no.

And when did I say that Mxy was more powerful then the Beyonder?

didn't you say more powerful than most? I thought that included him..

when I said "he's more powerful then most of the characters listed in this poll" I wasn't including the Beyonder, though if Mxy was a choose in this poll he would be my second choice.

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#36 Edited by DeathHero61 (6124 posts) - - Show Bio

Alien x can rewrite universes.

#37 Posted by The_Legendary_SuperSaiyan_Hulk (9913 posts) - - Show Bio

That guy from the Old Spice commercials.

#38 Posted by Immortal777 (7358 posts) - - Show Bio

Beyonder easily

#39 Posted by The_Titan_Lord (5237 posts) - - Show Bio

Beyonder no contest.

#40 Posted by patrat18 (9581 posts) - - Show Bio
#41 Posted by theONEtaichou (1521 posts) - - Show Bio

Why is WF Myx not here... oh coz he'd win!

PRB wins then...

good day

#43 Posted by Joygirl (19472 posts) - - Show Bio

Emperor Joker.

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#44 Posted by GhostRider2 (3282 posts) - - Show Bio

Thanos, LT.

#45 Posted by King Saturn (224033 posts) - - Show Bio

It's either Mad Jim Jaspers or Pre Retcon Beyonder

#46 Posted by Juiceboks (8546 posts) - - Show Bio

@juiceboks: I have. It happens that all of his feats were just an illusion. Even if they weren't. Mxy beats him easy.

Pre Retcon Beyonder's feats were all very real. This is a being that no Marvel abstract would dare to challenge and was described as million times more powerful than the Marvel multiverse itself. How does Mr. Mxy even compare when his power is multiversal at most?

#48 Edited by Juiceboks (8546 posts) - - Show Bio

@blazinghell We are debating his pre retconned feats hence the Pre Retcon. Literally none of what you listed is something out of Beyonder's power to do. Beyonder has destroyed and revived Death itself, was described as a million times more powerful than the Marvel Multiverse itself. So powerful that none of the Marvel abstracts dared to mess with him. Could destroy entire universes with no conscious effort, Mr. Mxy has never reshaped the entire multiverse. A full powered Spectre would destroy Mr. Mxy like he did to Thunderbolt. How is Mr. M omnipotent when Superboy Prime handed him his orange butt? You're overrating Mr. M quite a bit.

@killemall Do you mind clearing a few things up here?

#49 Edited by Killemall (18556 posts) - - Show Bio

@juiceboks: I think you are doing just fine, and beating Spectre that Mxy did during World Funniest is non canon as its a part of Elseworld title. Mxy being 5th dimensional is hardly impressive given Living Tribunal is an 18th dimensional being who was significantly weaker than Pre Retcon Beyonder.