Strongest character Madara Uchiha can beat?

With the following rules

• DC and Marvel characters only
• No preparation or prior knowledge
• Chakra is not to be considered universal, meaning just because Madara has it does not mean everybody else does.
• Everybody is assumed to be in character
• All fights start 50 feet apart

Who is the strongest character from the big two that Madara could beat in a 1v1 with the above rules/guidelines in place?

@blade_r: Does his genjutsu work? that's a huge deal.

Without genjutsu he could beat Spiderman, thing, blade, wolverine, batman, robin, daredevil, iron-fist, pretty all the street levelers of any verse, fantastic 4, iron-man, captain America ect, ect

Typo???

Bleeding edge, savage hulk, any of the pre 52 flash's.

@kingogkings777: No typo. I assume you're not familiar with Madara or the rinnegan or Wood Release or Perfect Susanno? Madara's raw power re draws maps my man. He can create a forest and this version of him is Edo-tensei meaning he's literally immortal and never will get tired. You name me a person and i'll tell you how he beats them. TRUTHFULLY he can solo all the ones I mentioned at the same time

@parichithayerakala: You think he can beat the Flashes? or the hulk?

@jesse536801: yeah he will stomp pre 52 flash's and beat savage hulk.

@parichithayerakala: then why don't you think he can beat the people I posted? lol or do you just think he needs genjutsu to do it? Because I assure he doesn't. He is all about physically dominating his lessers and beating them into submission. Genjutsu would just make it all easier. But he's a city buster easily.

@jesse536801: i do think madara can beat them effortlessly, i did not mention them because its common knowledge that savage hulk can beat them easily and since i had said madara can beat savage hulk it should be pretty obvious that madara can also beat the people you listed.

Doom and BatGod...

@blade_r: What version of Madara?

@kingogkings777: The pic is Edo Madara with rinnegan and Moukuton which adds up to unholy stomps all around for a lot of characters one on one lol.

Stops at Dan Hibiki.

Well id hate to put DC/Marvel at a disadvantage by giving them chakra so I think for this particular thread we should assume it wouldn't. He can use all of his abilities as long as they don't require the opponent to have chakra in order to work.

@kingogkings777: Ill be honest I haven't even gotten to Madara yet in Part 2, I just know of him and am really curious about him so the version in the picture is fine. Or which ever version is typically used in battles/is the most common version is fine too.

Madaras illusions wouldn't work on most of DC and Marvel since they don't have chakra per the OP's rules. That's how genjutsu works in Naruto, they manipulate your chakra. Therefore, I'd say he might be able to take Iron Man if he's lucky. He's not touching any version of Superman, Wonder Woman, Hulk, etc..

I am surprised his genjutsu matters so much, I thought I heard that this guy could summon meteors and stuff like that lol

@blade_r: It really doesn't it's not like he would use it if it did lmfao

@This post, Raditz prolly.

What do you mean lol

Raditz can solo everyone in the naruto universe except Kayuga with ease.

@blade_r: @blade_r: It's just another way to skin a cat. But yea he crushes people effortlessly like a boss. Anyone you're consider Street level in either verse is fucked. Also He can take the majority of the city levelers.

It'd be better to add a list of characters you're curious about him being able to beat and letting us hash it out from there. As has already been sated though, he can't compete with people like Superman or hulk ect without Genjutsu. With genjutsu it'd still be a shitstorm debate about if it'd work on them ect ect smh

@sun-wukong: Ease. Ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

blasphemy

@blade_r: Like, Madara doesn't really use his genjutsu in character that much lol.

@jesse536801: I see, I don't really have any characters in mind, I was just curious to see what tier people place him in under these particular rules , he sounds sick though lol

@iusemycajonas: I am actually glad to hear that, I wasn't sure though because I see it brought up a lot when people talk about him lol

@blade_r: Yeah for some reason here on the vine they like to have characters do out of character things when they fight.

@iusemycajonas: That's because the battles on the vine is more about what a character CAN do based on their abilities. It takes away the CIS or PIS that has people like Batman knocking around people like Superman in a fight. Or average people hitting Spiderman and other such nonsense that a story might have for the sake of the plot.

@jesse536801: the characters in battle are IC unless stated otherwise. And if we take out the characters psychology then why just make it a robot with set powers? A character is not the said character unless he has his mind(character) intact i.e all the people who say 1000 imp's etc etc in a flash thread are just telling what a robot without any psychology but with flash's powers would do they are not telling what flash would do.

Yamcha.

Teehee.

@parichithayerakala: Exactly. Sue Storm would not be Sue Storm if she went around exploding peoples brains. Peter Parker would not be Peter Parker if he wasn't a jobber. Thor wouldn't be Thor if he GodBlasted everything in his path.

@iusemycajonas: yeah and most of the people here dont understand that, thats the reason they go around saying 1000 imp's, godblast, speedblitz etc etc. Thats the reason people think flash is herald level when he would not even be city level if he is in character.

Via rinnengan and sharingan hax, he could beat mid tier fictional characters excluding hax characters.

Madara's a strong mid tier by feats, and without Chakra equalisation, can anyone even block Madara's Genjutsu?

@supremegreen_dx: yeah i said it madara stomp's pre52 flash's so whatya gonna dooooo

@parichithayerakala: dude, what are you doing. flash losing. such words are unsafe here. this is comicvine. flash does not lose. thems be the rules.

@random_nerd: in character flash loses to almost everyone above street level that is the truth.

plus thats not even true he has a couple high end feats and you cant entirely say its pis because his powerset is op as balls

@random_nerd: what part of in character dont you understand.

Hmm I'd say EoS DB characters.

@heinrich7: Piccolo EoS Db was a moon buster.

In character Flash has beaten Professor Zoom on multiple occasions, is Professor Zoom street level?

In character Flash easily beat Mongul, is Mongul street level?

Your knowledge of the Flash is street level.

He could beat regular Hulk or new52 Aquaman.

@sirneko: i said ALMOST everyone above street level.

@madripoor: He can't do anything to regular Hulk.

@atheistknowledge: not so sure, he has been beaten by street levelers.

@madripoor: So has Superman, Flash, several Green Lanterns, Thor, etc... what is your point? You do realize there is a little thing called PIS? If you are gonna focus on low showings then most comic book characters lose to street levelers. We focus on what is consistent not those 2-3 low showings in 60 years of characters existence.

2015 and yet i still have to explain this to some people...

@atheistknowledge: The sad thing is, the person you replied to has 1000+ posts so he has been here a while.

Most mid-tiers.

@atheistknowledge: Geez, why do you have to consider this personal ? I' ve just expressed my opinion and, moreover, I didn' t say anything like "Madara stomps", I just Said he COULD win this... Geez, 2015 and still one can't express his personal opinions..

@parichithayerakala: well i definitely understand your point and what can I say other than... We're all chemicals, vitamins and minerals, with vicadin in inner rubes wrapped around the arm

@madripoor: It's not that i am taking it personal it's the fact that i see the same fallacy getting used over and over... and there is so much i can take... quite honestly i expected better from some users. Literally having common sense should stop you from spouting things like "Hulk lost to street level characters once or twice" so he could lose to Madara. Come on... The guy fights and even wins against herald level characters on a constant basis... i mean if i go the opposite way and just consider Hulks high end feats he can LITERALLY one shot the entire Narutoverse with a thunderclap. That one time Spiderman dropped a truck on his head which KO'd him is quite ridiculous when Hulk has several showings of holding grenades and TNT in his mouth that explodes and doesn't harm him in any way and the same Spiderman hurting and breaking his hands on 2 separate occasions when he fought Hulk, not to mention that no selling a tank thrown to the face by Wonderman, literally shows just how PIS the truck KO'ing him in the Spiderman instance is

Again, not trying to make it personal or be mean, but you have to agree with me that people should know better...

@jesse536801: we are also beings with feelings and a soul. So, yeah there is a difference between a robot/artificial intelligence and a human.