Street Level BattleTournament: RD1 PaperRonin vs Acer51

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Scenario: This is a single-elimination street level tournament. Your team will only get one shot at glory. You must build your team by filling each role with a suitable character. Don’t worry they don’t have to get along, for the purposes of this thread they will all work together. They will be sealed inside a battlefield surrounded by an impenetrable dome. The battlefield will be a city-sized post-apocalyptic environment. It is completely devoid of any other life. Your goal is to eliminate the other team. Any team members lost during one round of battle will be restored to your team should you win. Winners will be determined by votes.

Rules:

Character Rules:

- Characters from any comic or comic Universe are allowed, so long as they fit all other rules.

- Characters must be from comics, not other media. If a character appears in other media those feats are not allowed.

- Only feats for the specific version of the character you chose are allowed. If you choose 616 Wolverine ONLY 616 feats may be presented as evidence.

-All Characters must be street level. I am the final judge of whether a character is allowed.

-No Intangibility or misting.

-No duplicators/multiplyers.

-No Telekinesis or magic.

-No power stealers/absorbers.

-No Force Users

-No speedsters

-No tele-dropping or tele-dismembering.

-No technology that would be considered beyond street level.

-No energy manipulation/projection greater than Cyclops.

-No Time, Matter, or Reality Manipulators.

-No Karate Kid, Midnighter, Prince of Orphans, or Gorgon.

-No physical attributes (strength/speed/reflexes) greater than Spider-Man.

-No telepathy/pyschics greater than Mr.X.

-No teleporting greater than Nightcrawler.

-No healing factor greater than Deadpool.

-No durability greater than Luke Cage.

-No armor/shields which grant durability greater than Luke Cage.

-Once a character has been chosen they are no longer a choice.

-Characters are taken on a first come, first serve basis.

-I will take 7 or 15 teams, depending on how much interest this thread generates.

Battle Rules:

-Elimination by Death, KO, Incapacitation.

-Teams start out at 5 PM, 1 mile apart, knowing the general direction their opponent is in.

- No time limit. Fight continues until all members of one team are eliminated.

-Combatants are all willing to kill, and will work together despite clashing viewpoints or past issues.

-Ammo is unlimited, but they still need to reload.

Roles:

Field Commander – The field commander is the leader of your team. He keeps everyone in line and working like a well oiled machine. Experience, wisdom, and of course leadership are important traits for this role. (Ex. Captain America, Cyclops)

Prepper– The prepper is in charge of preparing your team and works with the Field commander on implementing tactics and strategy. Intelligence, cunning, and the ability to think ahead of your opponent are important traits. (Ex. Batman, Deathstroke)

Gunslinger/Archer - The Gunslinger/Archer is your long range threat. They are extremely knowledgeable about their particular weapons, and their accuracy is unmatched with their weapons of choice. (Ex. Punisher, Green Arrow)

Martial Artist – The martial artist is a master in H2H combat having mastered many forms of martial arts. They are your greatest H2H fighter, and their bare hands are their deadliest weapons.(Lady Shiva, Shang Chi)

Recon/Infiltrator– The Recon/Infiltrator is a wraith, capable of getting in and out of places undetected, spying on your enemies, and taking them down from the shadows. Their greatest attributes are their stealth, ability to improvise, and intel gathering skills. (Ex. Black Widow, Elektra)

Melee Specialist – The melee specialist isn’t afraid to face his opponents in close quarters. He/she is a master of melee weapons from knives to nun-chuks and everything in between. (Ex. Wolverine, Mr. X)

Powerhouse – As the name suggest this is the most powerful member of your team. They will have powers whether they be superhuman physical stats or some other power that fits within the general rules. (Ex. Gambit, Spider-Man)

Battlefield:

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PaperRonin

Field Commander – Zealot

Prepper– Deathstroke

Gunslinger/Archer - Connor Hawke

Martial Artist – Bronze Tiger

Recon/Infiltrator– Fantomex

Melee Specialist – Taskmaster

Powerhouse – Gambit

Unbreakable – All ammo and melee weapons are made of adamantium.

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Field Commander-Nick Fury

Prepper-(Ultimate) Nick fury

Gunslinger-Hawkeye

Martial Artist-Neo ( yes he has a comic)

Recon/infiltrator-Black panther

Power house-Luke Cage

die, die my darling.

I'll let Acer go first.

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#2  Edited By acer51

Thank you Paperronin i couldnt find this thread here it goes...

My teams plan is to prepare an ambush, as soon as the battle starts my team will Find an area to ambush them, Nick fury (ultimate) has Black panther set several Deadly traps near the ambush point-Buildings riged to fall debree, making bridges unstable etc. Hawkeye will be up high keeping a lookout for the enemy, asuming most of the other team can make it through the traps my team will hide in the abandoned buildings waiting for the other team to pass through. When the other team passes through Hawkeye will shoot an explosive arrow causing a building to collapse on them and signaling the attack. Again assuming most of them are epic enough to survive, Luke cage carges with Nick fury covering him with deadly Carbonadium bullets,Neo and Ultimate nick then attack from the sides Neo going in close and Ultimate fury Spraying from behind.

Now here a several reasons why i think my team will win.

(1 The first advantage my team has is that they dont have to take a mile hike through deadly traps, at least one of team one will be wounded or hurt at least a little by the time they get to the ambush point. And even if Team one sends in Fantomex first, Panther will intercept him and defeat him ( and if you look at any stats or rating you'll see that black panther is by far the better fighter.)

(2 Carbonadium bullets are almost as strong as Adamantium and much deadlier so deadly that a single bullet could stop Dakens healing factor, if one of Team ones people get hit by a bullet or an arrow theres not going to be any escape there dead.

(3 When The other team Passes through Hawkeyes going to have a tall building collapse on them, This will cause mega stund and more then a little bit of damage this will allow Team Two to gain the advantage in the battle.

(4 One word Leadership while Zealot is a capable leader in her own right Nick Fury is Wayyy more experianced then her he fought in at least five wars before joining shield, i dare say he has combat experiance comparable to Captain america (lets not get into that though) the point is at the end of the day Nick fury will make better out of and in and out of combat decisions.

Thats all i can think of off the top of my head make your case Paperronin.

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#3  Edited By PaperRonin

Ok. Theres a few things I'd like to address.

Zealot is over hundreds of years old with plenty more experience then Nick. Fury wishes he was as much of a vet as Z. You were misinformed in your statement.

Carbonadium being almost as strong as adamantium wont cut it. It also is highly dangerous to your team without a synthesizer.

Now for my plan.

My team decides its best to spread out into teams of two ,with one person scouting ahead. Outfitted with Adamantium weapons/armor the leader decides to split up like this.

Connor/Taskmaster- These two will be behind in the triangle formation. Plenty of accuracy to pin down any targets that are visible or draw attention to themselves by attacking the leaders of formation.

Zealot/Gambit- The leader and Remy form the sides of formation ,slightly spread apart and looking for any obvious traps. Between her durability and his agility explosives wont do anything. Their offensive is simple,Gambit demolishes all possible avenues of cover and height advantage so the playing field is level. All bombs are prematurely detonated.

Deathstroke/Fantomex/Bronze Tiger- Are providing extra firepower for the squad and Tiger is a defense for anyone trying to rush forward. With the prep Deathstroke decides its best for the opposition to attack first and enter into his trap..The counter-strategy draws in your team until you realize your surrounded by heavy firepower.

My team has the H2H department in the bag,so Hawkeye and both Fury's are easily defeated. Connor/Taskmaster end them quickly from close or long range. Black Panther,Neo and Luke Cage as your last stand attempt to engage the "weaker" combatants . Bronze Tiger handles BP after a long drawn out fight while Zealot/Gambit/Deathstroke/Fantomex take down Neo and Cage.

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#4  Edited By acer51

@PaperRonin said:

Ok. Theres a few things I'd like to address.

Zealot is over hundreds of years old with plenty more experience then Nick. Fury wishes he was as much of a vet as Z. You were misinformed in your statement.

Carbonadium being almost as strong as adamantium wont cut it. It also is highly dangerous to your team without a synthesizer.

Now for my plan.

My team decides its best to spread out into teams of two ,with one person scouting ahead. Outfitted with Adamantium weapons/armor the leader decides to split up like this.

Connor/Taskmaster- These two will be behind in the triangle formation. Plenty of accuracy to pin down any targets that are visible or draw attention to themselves by attacking the leaders of formation.

Zealot/Gambit- The leader and Remy form the sides of formation ,slightly spread apart and looking for any obvious traps. Between her durability and his agility explosives wont do anything. Their offensive is simple,Gambit demolishes all possible avenues of cover and height advantage so the playing field is level. All bombs are prematurely detonated.

Deathstroke/Fantomex/Bronze Tiger- Are providing extra firepower for the squad and Tiger is a defense for anyone trying to rush forward. With the prep Deathstroke decides its best for the opposition to attack first and enter into his trap..The counter-strategy draws in your team until you realize your surrounded by heavy firepower.

My team has the H2H department in the bag,so Hawkeye and both Fury's are easily defeated. Connor/Taskmaster end them quickly from close or long range. Black Panther,Neo and Luke Cage as your last stand attempt to engage the "weaker" combatants . Bronze Tiger handles BP after a long drawn out fight while Zealot/Gambit/Deathstroke/Fantomex take down Neo and Cage.

Well played Ronin seperating into teams of two will prevent your team from being eliminated in a single strike, but before i provide further battle insight i will first address the other issues.

Your right i was misinformed about Zealots experiance but the fact that Nick fury has better leadership skills And a much higher IQ still stands.

Wont cut it? i belive you where the one misinformed here while Adamantiam is a little stronger If you get any Carbonadium in your system you die very fast and without cure, someone like Daken Almost died from just one bullet.

I have to go to sleep now i'll have the counter finished tommarow.

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@PaperRonin said:

Ok. Theres a few things I'd like to address.

Zealot is over hundreds of years old with plenty more experience then Nick. Fury wishes he was as much of a vet as Z. You were misinformed in your statement.

Carbonadium being almost as strong as adamantium wont cut it. It also is highly dangerous to your team without a synthesizer.

Now for my plan.

My team decides its best to spread out into teams of two ,with one person scouting ahead. Outfitted with Adamantium weapons/armor the leader decides to split up like this.

Connor/Taskmaster- These two will be behind in the triangle formation. Plenty of accuracy to pin down any targets that are visible or draw attention to themselves by attacking the leaders of formation.

Zealot/Gambit- The leader and Remy form the sides of formation ,slightly spread apart and looking for any obvious traps. Between her durability and his agility explosives wont do anything. Their offensive is simple,Gambit demolishes all possible avenues of cover and height advantage so the playing field is level. All bombs are prematurely detonated.

Deathstroke/Fantomex/Bronze Tiger- Are providing extra firepower for the squad and Tiger is a defense for anyone trying to rush forward. With the prep Deathstroke decides its best for the opposition to attack first and enter into his trap..The counter-strategy draws in your team until you realize your surrounded by heavy firepower.

My team has the H2H department in the bag,so Hawkeye and both Fury's are easily defeated. Connor/Taskmaster end them quickly from close or long range. Black Panther,Neo and Luke Cage as your last stand attempt to engage the "weaker" combatants . Bronze Tiger handles BP after a long drawn out fight while Zealot/Gambit/Deathstroke/Fantomex take down Neo and Cage.

Now Paperronin i have to admit that your plan was quite well thought through and i would have had to admit defeat if it wasn't for one fatal miscalculation,your powerhouse Gambit reavealed him self when he began demolishing buildings, my look out Hawkeye sees Gambit and Zealot from up high before they even get close, and realizes somthings not right he signals Fury about the situation, Fury realizes its some sort of trick and has evreyone besides Hawkeye leave the ambush site, Hawkeye sets the building trap and shoots a Carbonadium shaft into a stunned and/or wounded Deathstroke killing him he also shoots a tick bomb arrow to help cover his escape. Now that my team has spilled first blood the and Fury deals out further order which will be reveald a little later in this post. asuming the remnants of Deathstroke squad is to wounded to follow Hawkeye and black panther meet up and search the area for anymore hostiles.

Nick fury then has the rest of the team (besides himself) engage Zealot but keeps Panther and Hawkeye close in case they need assistance.

Now im fairly sure that the reamander of Deathsquad is now wounded stunned and somwhat trapped by the left over debree unless one of them posses a power that allows them to shrug off having a building droped on them they will be at least wounded, they will still probably be able to particapate in the battle but it will take a little while for them to get there bareings. now im confident that the squad i dispatched is capable of defeating Zealot and Gambit becase you stated yourself that there spread out, thus my team will be able to get the drop on them. Luke cage will be able to overpower Gambit, Neo and Nick Fury(ultimate) will be able to take down Zealot with there supurior combat skills...Team two has Team one out numbered and outguned.

Now your team is outnumbered wounded and seperated, there are still some things you could do but nothing i didn't make a back up plan for, admit defeat now and save yourself alot of pain you already have my honor and respect has an adept battle planer.

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Before I counter. How are you going to reverse the negative effects of carbonadium to your team? They will be in a constant weakened state. Also my team is no more then 20 feet away in the formation,they wont be easily picked off or separated.

Gambit is destroying buildings so Hawkeye wont see anything admist the debris and dust. In a chaos of demolition your team has no visual of mine,therefore unable to attack or counter the power of Gambit. Also my sharpshooters are perfectly able to shoot anyone ahead thanks to high vantage points of buildings behind the formation. Anyone of your team that show themselves is easy pickings. DS/Hawke/Zealot have enhanced durability and senses so there not going down easily. Now you've stepped into my trap perfectly by bringing forward your fighters into the now open formation which Deathstroke has prepared to the T. Closing in on your team Gambit now focuses on sending bombs your way while Task and Arrow continue with perfectly aimed strikes to your occupied members. As I've already said your H2H capabilities are lax compared to mine and Adamantium gear/weapons will surely eliminate your offensive.

There's flaws in your plan. I win.

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@PaperRonin said:

Before I counter. How are you going to reverse the negative effects of carbonadium to your team? They will be in a constant weakened state. Also my team is no more then 20 feet away in the formation,they wont be easily picked off or separated.

Gambit is destroying buildings so Hawkeye wont see anything admist the debris and dust. In a chaos of demolition your team has no visual of mine,therefore unable to attack or counter the power of Gambit. Also my sharpshooters are perfectly able to shoot anyone ahead thanks to high vantage points of buildings behind the formation. Anyone of your team that show themselves is easy pickings. DS/Hawke/Zealot have enhanced durability and senses so there not going down easily. Now you've stepped into my trap perfectly by bringing forward your fighters into the now open formation which Deathstroke has prepared to the T. Closing in on your team Gambit now focuses on sending bombs your way while Task and Arrow continue with perfectly aimed strikes to your occupied members. As I've already said your H2H capabilities are lax compared to mine and Adamantium gear/weapons will surely eliminate your offensive.

There's flaws in your plan. I win.

First of all only my archer Hawkeye is high up and your trying to tell me that Hawkeye dosn't notice the destruction in the backround? im afraid the Chaos and Destruction isn't a very good cover. while you provided some good points this still plays out the same only i lose a little time having Panther scout out the situation, your Death-squad still sprung the trap with Deatstroke dead, and the rest of that squad hurt badly, the only thing you won here was perhaps 3 minutes of time before we run through the same scenario i just showed you, and your not doing so good on the hand to hand department you just lost Deathstroke and Bronze Tiger and Fantomex are still recovering from having a building dropped on them.

Weak in the HtH? i have two Nick furys Black panther and NEO for crying out loud,

Now as for the Carbonadium my teams keeping there guns and swords Sheathed and making sure not to actually touch the Carbonadium, they plan on defeating you before they become ill it's only been maybe 30 minutes of battle by now with no damage on my side btw.

And as for the part about your team being seperated i was only stating that a 20 feet distance is more then enough to get the drop on Zealot and Gambit.

Like i said you have a few more cards to play but with a member dead and two wounded i have you overpowered.

You can still surender.

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#8  Edited By acer51

Bump so you can still see it.

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#9  Edited By PaperRonin

I'm actually gonna leave this too the votes now.Your argument is lack-luster,your not clear on anything,and my team is severely better in all aspects.

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@PaperRonin said:

Before I counter. How are you going to reverse the negative effects of carbonadium to your team? They will be in a constant weakened state. Also my team is no more then 20 feet away in the formation,they wont be easily picked off or separated.

Gambit is destroying buildings so Hawkeye wont see anything admist the debris and dust. In a chaos of demolition your team has no visual of mine,therefore unable to attack or counter the power of Gambit. Also my sharpshooters are perfectly able to shoot anyone ahead thanks to high vantage points of buildings behind the formation. Anyone of your team that show themselves is easy pickings. DS/Hawke/Zealot have enhanced durability and senses so there not going down easily. Now you've stepped into my trap perfectly by bringing forward your fighters into the now open formation which Deathstroke has prepared to the T. Closing in on your team Gambit now focuses on sending bombs your way while Task and Arrow continue with perfectly aimed strikes to your occupied members. As I've already said your H2H capabilities are lax compared to mine and Adamantium gear/weapons will surely eliminate your offensive.

There's flaws in your plan. I win.

First of all only my archer Hawkeye is high up and your trying to tell me that Hawkeye dosn't notice the destruction in the backround? im afraid the Chaos and Destruction isn't a very good cover. while you provided some good points this still plays out the same only i lose a little time having Panther scout out the situation, your Death-squad still sprung the trap with Deatstroke dead, and the rest of that squad hurt badly, the only thing you won here was perhaps 3 minutes of time before we run through the same scenario i just showed you, and your not doing so good on the hand to hand department you just lost Deathstroke and Bronze Tiger and Fantomex are still recovering from having a building dropped on them.

Weak in the HtH? i have two Nick furys Black panther and NEO for crying out loud,

Now as for the Carbonadium my teams keeping there guns and swords Sheathed and making sure not to actually touch the Carbonadium, they plan on defeating you before they become ill it's only been maybe 30 minutes of battle by now with no damage on my side btw.

And as for the part about your team being seperated i was only stating that a 20 feet distance is more then enough to get the drop on Zealot and Gambit.

Like i said you have a few more cards to play but with a member dead and two wounded i have you overpowered.

You can still surender.

For example: Your archer is in front of me,not the background. You have no visual.

My team hasn't lost anyone because your whole "dropping a building" strategy is not explained or even possible..

Show me Neo,and Nick Fury being capable fighters. Im not convinced they can take anyone on my team.

I win,you lose.

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#10  Edited By Fetts

Somehow these arguments amuse me sometimes. Anyways, I honestly see PaperRonin winning the entire tournament. With me at second place of course :)

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@PaperRonin:

Is there any way i can enter the tournament, or is it closed? Either way, i think both arguments were pretty solid.

I don't understand what "background" is supposed to mean if Hawkeye is on top of a building and can see everything around him. But go figure.

You have no reason to insult each other, both of your teams are superb, and I have to give Acer51's strategy a +1 over PaperRonin.

However, the Skill-level PaperRonin's TEAM in general has is Superior to Acer51's team.

You'll probably take this.....i think.

Edit: Couldn't help but notice that last part where you said Nick Fury is an incapable fighter.

Just click on this link please. http://forums.wolverinefiles.com/topic/1648399/1/

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@Sufferthorn said:

@PaperRonin:

Is there any way i can enter the tournament, or is it closed? Either way, i think both arguments were pretty solid.

I don't understand what "background" is supposed to mean if Hawkeye is on top of a building and can see everything around him. But go figure.

You have no reason to insult each other, both of your teams are superb, and I have to give Acer51's strategy a +1 over PaperRonin.

However, the Skill-level PaperRonin's TEAM in general has is Superior to Acer51's team.

You'll probably take this.....i think.

Edit: Couldn't help but notice that last part where you said Nick Fury is an incapable fighter.

Just click on this link please. http://forums.wolverinefiles.com/topic/1648399/1/

Its all in the spirit of comp. One fight for Fury vs Wolvie is not a valid showing imo. What has he done lately?My team has battled way more fighters(Skilled in H2H). Explain how his strategy is superior.

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#13  Edited By acer51

@PaperRonin said:

I'm actually gonna leave this too the votes now.Your argument is lack-luster,your not clear on anything,and my team is severely better in all aspects.

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@PaperRonin said:

Before I counter. How are you going to reverse the negative effects of carbonadium to your team? They will be in a constant weakened state. Also my team is no more then 20 feet away in the formation,they wont be easily picked off or separated.

Gambit is destroying buildings so Hawkeye wont see anything admist the debris and dust. In a chaos of demolition your team has no visual of mine,therefore unable to attack or counter the power of Gambit. Also my sharpshooters are perfectly able to shoot anyone ahead thanks to high vantage points of buildings behind the formation. Anyone of your team that show themselves is easy pickings. DS/Hawke/Zealot have enhanced durability and senses so there not going down easily. Now you've stepped into my trap perfectly by bringing forward your fighters into the now open formation which Deathstroke has prepared to the T. Closing in on your team Gambit now focuses on sending bombs your way while Task and Arrow continue with perfectly aimed strikes to your occupied members. As I've already said your H2H capabilities are lax compared to mine and Adamantium gear/weapons will surely eliminate your offensive.

There's flaws in your plan. I win.

First of all only my archer Hawkeye is high up and your trying to tell me that Hawkeye dosn't notice the destruction in the backround? im afraid the Chaos and Destruction isn't a very good cover. while you provided some good points this still plays out the same only i lose a little time having Panther scout out the situation, your Death-squad still sprung the trap with Deatstroke dead, and the rest of that squad hurt badly, the only thing you won here was perhaps 3 minutes of time before we run through the same scenario i just showed you, and your not doing so good on the hand to hand department you just lost Deathstroke and Bronze Tiger and Fantomex are still recovering from having a building dropped on them.

Weak in the HtH? i have two Nick furys Black panther and NEO for crying out loud,

Now as for the Carbonadium my teams keeping there guns and swords Sheathed and making sure not to actually touch the Carbonadium, they plan on defeating you before they become ill it's only been maybe 30 minutes of battle by now with no damage on my side btw.

And as for the part about your team being seperated i was only stating that a 20 feet distance is more then enough to get the drop on Zealot and Gambit.

Like i said you have a few more cards to play but with a member dead and two wounded i have you overpowered.

You can still surender.

For example: Your archer is in front of me,not the background. You have no visual.

My team hasn't lost anyone because your whole "dropping a building" strategy is not explained or even possible..

Show me Neo,and Nick Fury being capable fighters. Im not convinced they can take anyone on my team.

I win,you lose.

Im going to try to make this my last post because i dont want to alienate voters with endless debate so just a few issues.

Im sorry did i not make it clear enough? backround meant in the distance.

And for the building we picked an unstable one and then further riged it to fall.

And finally you seem to be resorting to insults now, and if you want to start the voting i think we should stop debating and let the voters simply post without bothering them, unless you want to continue the debate i personally love these battle debates.

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#14  Edited By Fetts

Ya. I gotta give cutos to acer51 and his creative ideas and attempts to beat PaperRonin. It probably could of worked on other teams. But PaperRonin has too good of a team and I honestly think he has the best in the entire tournament.  

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#15  Edited By acer51

Alright evreyone start the voting me and Paperonin both agreed we were done debating.

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#16  Edited By acer51

Hey i wont be logging on for a long time any more or at least not enough to continue this huge battle so i guess Paperonin wins by forfit.