Storm vs Sinister Six

umm storm vs six people not fair -(
maybe you should knock a few off
or add some-one to storm's side.

Storm should be able to win here. I don't see a defense to her powers for anyone of the 6.

SPITE

Storm should be able to win here. I don't see a defense to her powers for anyone of the 6.

This isn't spite, at all. She completely solos them, though. 

So spite or not spoite???

I don't think it's spite. Depending on how Kraven sets up, and whether the others use the city to their advantage it could easily be too many skilled opponents for Storm to take on at once. Electro might not be a problem for her, due to her electrical resistance, but we've seen her get shocked by Bevatron before, so we know she can be hurt by it, and the others are pretty lethal while she has normal levels of durability supplemented by intensive exercise. If they come at her at once with no strategy, she can easily solo them, but if they use strategy, with some teaming up and others supporting or laying in wait for a chance to strike, she could die in this. I actually think this would be a good match and definitely worth watching!

She can take em'. If Green Goblin was here it could be a different story.

I don't think it's spite. Depending on how Kraven sets up, and whether the others use the city to their advantage it could easily be too many skilled opponents for Storm to take on at once. Electro might not be a problem for her, due to her electrical resistance, but we've seen her get shocked by Bevatron before, so we know she can be hurt by it, and the others are pretty lethal while she has normal levels of durability supplemented by intensive exercise. If they come at her at once with no strategy, she can easily solo them, but if they use strategy, with some teaming up and others supporting or laying in wait for a chance to strike, she could die in this. I actually think this would be a good match and definitely worth watching!

@Storm Calling: That's why I think it comes down to strategy. If they work together to attack her, I think she can be taken down pretty quickly by them. She's been defeated by lesser opponents. If they just bumrush her, she should be able to take them out with a few big attacks relatively easily.

@Storm Calling: I don't think so. She's good, but not that good nor is she that fast. She can win, but this group can win, as well. It's not like they are going to stand around waiting for her to beat them up. And she has a limit to how many high end feats she can pull off at that same time against separate targets. IE: while she's concentrating on one opponent, another can backstab her from behind. I think this fight is more interesting than you make it out to be.

She calls in rain and takes them all out lmfao this is not spite she can do this lmfao they are all vulnerable to attacks she has

Storm wins. Vulture is the only one who can fly and he is hardly an aerial threat to Storm.

@Storm Calling: All depends on how the fight proceeds. Honestly, the environmental advantage drops depending on where each opponent attacks her. They are in New York City, remember? There is no guarantee they will engage her in the streets, on the rooftops, in parks or etc. She could be lured into the sewers, enclosed spaces or any number of places where their specific strengths could be advantageous. Having raw power and versatility does not determine victory - a lot of factors need to be taken into account in a battle, especially since she is essentially a glass canon here. She only has counters to their attacks, not reliable defenses - if Sandman punched her, for example, and she didn't know he was there, she'd be KOed or killed. 

Easiest thing for them to do, in my opinion, is take the gang approach. One villain attacks her, thus occupying her attention on what she perceives as the only threat. While she is engaged with that one, each attacks her as a group but from different directions. She tosses Vulture away with a hurricane force wind, but then is hit by a javelin thrown by Kraven, when she turns to deal with him, she is hit by an electric blast by Electro, she uses an area attack to take him out or tries to escape, and suddenly is hit by Mysterio's hallucinogenic gas. Numbers do give them an advantage, especially with her lack of enhanced durability or agility to really allow her to compensate.

Storm actually can solo.

JediXman is right as usual.

@Storm Calling: I have a very good idea of how powerful she is. I've been an X-Men fan for years. I just don't overestimate what she can do to god-tier levels as some of her fans often do and I try to take battlefield conditions into account. 

I'm a fan specifically of the character itself and not just a team of X-men...

@Storm Calling said:

I'm a fan specifically of the character itself and not just a team of X-men...

1. I think it is because you are a fan that you overestimate her abilities and tend to downplay her opponents in these battle threads. Ironically, despite my issues with how writers treat them, I'm a fan of most of the X-women - Jean and Storm are two of my favorite characters.  
2. I never said they would get a majority of the victories against Storm. Please read my original response. I actually favor Storm in this and stated the only way the Six would win is if they worked together in a coordinated attack, which doesn't always work out for them. I actually think the odds of Storm are winning are 8 or 9 times out of 10. I think this would be an interesting battle because regardless of upper level feats, we have seen her taken out by conventional opponents. I think you assumed that just because I don't think she could blow them out of the water no matter what they did that I'm downplaying her abilities. I am not. But they can win this because the battle conditions are so unspecified. We don't even know if she is taken by surprise, starts out in the air or if they would have prep time to plan their attack. Who has the initiative, where in New York does this take place, are there innocents around that she would feel the need to protect and would force her to use less powerful attacks? These are the questions that really determine what she and what they could do here. 

@PhoenixoftheTides said:

Please read my original response. I actually favor Storm in this and stated the only way the Six would win is if they worked together in a coordinated attack, which doesn't always work out for them. I actually think the odds of Storm are winning are 8 or 9 times out of 10. 

 @Storm Calling said: So she should get the majority here regardless to if you believe I am overestimating her abilities.

@Storm Calling  said:   With prep I can see Octavius coming up with a great plan to take down Ororo. 

@Storm Calling  said:  I'm quite aware that these characters have a chance of getting lucky and taking out Storm, but that's not enough to consider giving them a majority against Storm

@Storm Calling  said: Not really, she could literally get air borne or conjure a pressure dome and everyone becomes irrelevant. An instant pea soup fog and everyone is blinded and sitting ducks for Storm to take out.

@Storm Calling said:

@PhoenixoftheTides said:

Please read my original response. I actually favor Storm in this and stated the only way the Six would win is if they worked together in a coordinated attack, which doesn't always work out for them. I actually think the odds of Storm are winning are 8 or 9 times out of 10. 

 @Storm Calling said: So she should get the majority here regardless to if you believe I am overestimating her abilities.

Clearly you are not reading any of my responses and just immediately replying based on your assumptions.
Again: Look at the quotes above from our respective posts above. Where did I ever say that Storm wouldn't be winning the majority? Where am I disagreeing that even if you overestimate her abilities, she should be able to win?

In fact, you go from saying that the Six has a chance of beating Storm if they plan (basically the same thing I said) to saying they have no chance at all in subsequent posts. 

@Storm Calling  said:   With prep I can see Octavius coming up with a great plan to take down Ororo. 

@Storm Calling  said:  I'm quite aware that these characters have a chance of getting lucky and taking out Storm, but that's not enough to consider giving them a majority against Storm

@Storm Calling  said: Not really, she could literally get air borne or conjure a pressure dome and everyone becomes irrelevant. An instant pea soup fog and everyone is blinded and sitting ducks for Storm to take out.

So you go from acknowledging that they do have a chance of beating Storm but Storm is powerful and versatile enough to take the majority of wins, which is what I said in various follow up posts. So what exactly are you disagreeing with? Are you disagreeing with the fact that I think she can still be hurt or taken out by conventional means?  As I said before, she is good, but not perfect and I don't place her on a god or omniscient tier. She is a very powerful mutant but her body is still human - a gun shot wound, an explosion of shrapnel, a punch delivered by an opponent with super strength can take her out, underestimating her opponent, a slight hesitation in her reaction times and her own physical limits to how much power she can use before exhaustion are ways that she can be defeated. I don't think any of these things make her weak. And I am not even going to get into how solo character stories or series have a habit of amping up the characters capabilities in ways that don't fit in with how that character generally fits into the greater comic's universe...

@Storm Calling: Yeah, you have every right to disagree with my analysis. All I did was point out how they could conceivably win at least once. You pushed back. However, when you pushed back, you effectively changed the idea that Storm could win the majority and went towards Storm winning 10/10 times. That is at least how it seemed to me. I may be wrong.You yourself say this in your last point: "...you will see that my point was that Storm had all of the advantages with a chance of the Sinister Six getting luckily and surprising her due to Octavius..." My issue is that when I described how the Six could win, your reply was to point out how/why this couldn't happen: "Not really, she could literally get air borne or conjure a pressure dome and everyone becomes irrelevant. An instant pea soup fog and everyone is blinded and sitting ducks for Storm to take out." You effectively went from saying the Six had a chance to saying that they didn't. 

Now I don't know what you are arguing against because this whole thing got derailed when you started talking about all of the different ways she could neutralize them, but what I am arguing for is that Storm can win the majority and if the Six uses plans or some prep they could get a victory 1 or 2 out of 10 times due to these plans and the fact that she is outnumbered.

A debate about how her powers work is for another thread - I'm sticking to how this match up could play out.

The Storm

@Storm Calling: I don't think so. She's good, but not that good nor is she that fast. She can win, but this group can win, as well. It's not like they are going to stand around waiting for her to beat them up. And she has a limit to how many high end feats she can pull off at the same time against separate targets attacking from different directions using different strategies and powersets. IE: while she's concentrating on one opponent, another can backstab her from behind. I think this fight is more interesting than you make it out to be.

Storm would flash freeze them all.

                    Spite.   That's too many for her to face alone.

                   

               

I can see Storm defeating them.

storm gets gangbanged...which is something I'd like to see

@THUNDERBOLT30 said:

Storm should be able to win here. I don't see a defense to her powers for anyone of the 6.

@THUNDERBOLT30 said:

Storm should be able to win here. I don't see a defense to her powers for anyone of the 6.

 

Storm will win this battle and here is why.

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@THUNDERBOLT30 said:

Storm should be able to win here. I don't see a defense to her powers for anyone of the 6.

 

They don't need to have anyone with a defense against her powers to win here.  Their biggest strength in this fight is that there are soo many of them.  Storm isn't powerful enough to one shot them all at the same time, so odds are good someone will be able to take a shot at her before she can zap them.

                    @Green Skin said:

@venomoushatred1001 said:

@THUNDERBOLT30 said:

Storm should be able to win here. I don't see a defense to her powers for anyone of the 6.

 

They don't need to have anyone with a defense against her powers to win here.  Their biggest strength in this fight is that there are soo many of them.  Storm isn't powerful enough to one shot them all at the same time, so odds are good someone will be able to take a shot at her before she can zap them.

                   

               

Ummm yes she can one shot them all at once...

                   

               

The team takes this. Too many.

Storm wins with ease.

The team takes this. Too many.

Sandman solos.