Storm vs. Iceman
" @Vance Astro said:Because Bobby has more control first and foremost." @King Psyker said:While she has not been officially labelled that, she does potentially wield unlimited power. Also, Iceman is not freezing Storm at all. She can absorb heat and lightning to counter that or even fight him for control. What's to stop her from taking control of his body and completely destroying him same as she did to Hydroman? "" @Vance Astro: So is storm "No she's not. "
@King Psyker said:
" @Vance Astro said:" @King Psyker said:She is 2nd in command of the X Men and way smarter "" @Vance Astro: So is storm "No she's not. "
That has nothing to do with being an Omega Level Mutant.
" @Stormcell: Does Storm have complete control over her water molecules that are in her body? If not, then Iceman wins. %Pr "no she doesnt,even if she had any control over her water molecules,Iceman's control is far bigger
yep" @Matezoide: Then Iceman wins. It is as simple as that. %Pr "
Iceman is immortal,and can heal from any harm Storm can give to him
if she melts him? he becomes solid again
if he (somehow) becomes vapor? he enters inside her lungs and freeze her from inside
he posses total control over his body
nothing Storm can do will stop Iceman,any damage she gives him,he will just reform in seconds,Storm cant survive having her brain froze in sub-zero
@cracks said:
" @azaritorrent: Iceman could simply transfer his consciousness to her water molecules in her body or to a lake a few miles away. Destroying Iceman's body won't help in Storm really defeating Iceman. Iceman could simply freeze Storm's water molecules. %Pr "
He travels as vapor, right? Anyway, the last thing he would want to do is move his consciousness into Storm. She is much stronger willed than he is and she should be able to squash him then. Storm controls moisture too which means this could end up in a battle of the wills in which she would easily best him.
why cant you undestand,Iceman can only be destroied if theres no cell left for him to heal from and if theres no humidity close by,even if Bob stood still and let Storm destroy all of his cells (wich she cant btw) he would be able to reform from the water in Storm's body,by sending his consious
ho,Storm control heat (i doubt it),well Sunfire is a fire dude and he couldnt even use his powers until Iceman letted him do it
even if Storm controls heat,she isnt an omega level,but Iceman is,his control is bigger than hers,he just holds back MUCH more than Storm ever did
heck,all Iceman needs to do is freeze the water in Storm's body and the fight is over,
this fight is a stomp,plain and simple
i know,with is why i said " even if Bob stood still and let Storm destroy all of his cells (wich she cant btw) he would be able to reform from the water in Storm's body,by sending his consious" xD
but yeah,Iceman still wins
" @Stormcell: It does not matter what Storm does to Iceman. Iceman can transfer his consciousness into Storm's water molecules or any other lake nearby. Storm's will does not involve her own water molecules. Iceman can reach near absolute zero temperatures. %Pr "I think he CAN reach absolute zero.
" @cracks said:" @Stormcell: It does not matter what Storm does to Iceman. Iceman can transfer his consciousness into Storm's water molecules or any other lake nearby. Storm's will does not involve her own water molecules. Iceman can reach near absolute zero temperatures. %Pr "I think he CAN reach absolute zero. "
No he can't. For him to do that he will have to freeze the entire universe to absolute zero.
" @spiderpigbart said:I was thinking of in X-Men: First Class, when he turned into a Frost Giant. Please do not start yelling that it is non-cannon." @cracks said:No he can't. For him to do that he will have to freeze the entire universe to absolute zero. "" @Stormcell: It does not matter what Storm does to Iceman. Iceman can transfer his consciousness into Storm's water molecules or any other lake nearby. Storm's will does not involve her own water molecules. Iceman can reach near absolute zero temperatures. %Pr "I think he CAN reach absolute zero. "
@spiderpigbart said:
" @Xan said:" @spiderpigbart said:I was thinking of in X-Men: First Class, when he turned into a Frost Giant. Please do not start yelling that it is non-cannon. "" @cracks said:No he can't. For him to do that he will have to freeze the entire universe to absolute zero. "" @Stormcell: It does not matter what Storm does to Iceman. Iceman can transfer his consciousness into Storm's water molecules or any other lake nearby. Storm's will does not involve her own water molecules. Iceman can reach near absolute zero temperatures. %Pr "I think he CAN reach absolute zero. "
How big was the Frost Giant? %Pr
" @Xan: Iceman can reach near absolute zero, but can't reach it.Maybe thirty-forty feet tall.
@spiderpigbart said:" @Xan said:How big was the Frost Giant? %Pr "" @spiderpigbart said:I was thinking of in X-Men: First Class, when he turned into a Frost Giant. Please do not start yelling that it is non-cannon. "" @cracks said:No he can't. For him to do that he will have to freeze the entire universe to absolute zero. "" @Stormcell: It does not matter what Storm does to Iceman. Iceman can transfer his consciousness into Storm's water molecules or any other lake nearby. Storm's will does not involve her own water molecules. Iceman can reach near absolute zero temperatures. %Pr "I think he CAN reach absolute zero. "
If it's just storm vs Iceman...I think Iceman wins if he surpises her. He can freeze the air around her and take her down once she hits the ground. If he dosent surpise her he will have a hard time because of her controlling the wind but he can still wind.
"@They Killed Cap!: Wind is storms Only protection as a DEFENSE. Iceman is water and one with H20 in whole, he has a very huge advantage. he's practically a god. she cannot defeat him. "
:O:O:O!
"@They Killed Cap!: Wind is storms Only protection as a DEFENSE. Iceman is water and one with H20 in whole, he has a very huge advantage. he's practically a god. she cannot defeat him. "
Not only does Storm control what he controls, she controls electricity. Electricity trumps Iceman's powers. Electricity destroys water at the atomic level
" Yes she can if Storm has to do it. "How do you kill someone that can reform their body from the moisture in another person's body?
Storm can tear those patterns apart so Iceman can no longer reform. Just like the phalanx, they reform but still get destroyed. Besides, fi Storm has been able to put hmmmm... was it amelia who could turn into smoke, the lady from acolyte? Storm was able to put her back to human form and Storm can do that to Iceman and beat him in flesh form.
me, vance astro and white magye have said this time and time afgain....storm stomps shes near LT's levelm of powwer read a COMIC!
" me, vance astro and white magye have said this time and time afgain....storm stomps shes near LT's levelm of powwer read a COMIC! "She's not even close to Living Tribunal.
" @PhantomTempestStorm said:" me, vance astro and white magye have said this time and time afgain....storm stomps shes near LT's levelm of powwer read a COMIC! "She's not even close to Living Tribunal. "
Shes been called the "sister" to TOAA shes far way above living tribunal...hed be dying tribunal if he ever messed wtih her.
Storm has played with power on a omniversal level which is above LT according to the marvel endcyclapedia of 2008
"Shes been called the "sister" to TOAA shes far way above living tribunal...You're lying.
@PhantomTempestStorm said:
" Storm has played with power on a omniversal level which is above LT according to the marvel endcyclapedia of 2008 "And, either you're lying about this or misinterpreting what was really being said there.
" @PhantomTempestStorm said:dude,it is not worthy,just ignore it" me, vance astro and white magye have said this time and time afgain....storm stomps shes near LT's levelm of powwer read a COMIC! "She's not even close to Living Tribunal. "
" @Static Shock said:you dont jknow how to debate i see...ashame..!" @PhantomTempestStorm said:dude,it is not worthy,just ignore it "" me, vance astro and white magye have said this time and time afgain....storm stomps shes near LT's levelm of powwer read a COMIC! "She's not even close to Living Tribunal. "
@Static Shock said:
" @PhantomTempestStorm said:"Shes been called the "sister" to TOAA shes far way above living tribunal...You're lying.
@PhantomTempestStorm said:" Storm has played with power on a omniversal level which is above LT according to the marvel endcyclapedia of 2008 "And, either you're lying about this or misinterpreting what was really being said there. "
No it particularly said storm was playing with power unimaginable which means LT level. When she manipualted the galactic core she secretly tappeed into TOAAs heaven home power and kiklled the brood. i know this because storm is the embodiment of nature like jean is phoenix force. storm is the wielder of the elements. thor has admitted to her being more powerful than even ODIN! and odin bust galaxies so storm should bnsut multiverses.
"No it particularly said storm was playing with power unimaginable which means LT level. When she manipualted the galactic core she secretly tappeed into TOAAs heaven home power and kiklled the brood. i know this because storm is the embodiment of nature like jean is phoenix force. storm is the wielder of the elements. thor has admitted to her being more powerful than even ODIN! and odin bust galaxies so storm should bnsut multiverses. "
"@Matezoide said:" @Static Shock said:you dont jknow how to debate i see...ashame..!" @PhantomTempestStorm said:dude,it is not worthy,just ignore it "" me, vance astro and white magye have said this time and time afgain....storm stomps shes near LT's levelm of powwer read a COMIC! "She's not even close to Living Tribunal. "
@Static Shock said:" @PhantomTempestStorm said:No it particularly said storm was playing with power unimaginable which means LT level. When she manipualted the galactic core she secretly tappeed into TOAAs heaven home power and kiklled the brood. i know this because storm is the embodiment of nature like jean is phoenix force. storm is the wielder of the elements. thor has admitted to her being more powerful than even ODIN! and odin bust galaxies so storm should bnsut multiverses. ""Shes been called the "sister" to TOAA shes far way above living tribunal...You're lying.
@PhantomTempestStorm said:" Storm has played with power on a omniversal level which is above LT according to the marvel endcyclapedia of 2008 "And, either you're lying about this or misinterpreting what was really being said there. "
Thor never said that, Comic and issue number! Thats obsured unless you're talking Ulitmates but even then!
Hyperion even stated that ultimate storm was universal and apart of a bigger force.
616 storm explained she was the embodiment on earth of the entire force of nature. she said as a omniversal energy she spawned off the power cosmic and gave it to galactus and gave brith the phoenix force.
The LT is like storms eternity to infinity. but in this case storm is stronger than LT>
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