Storm vs. Iceman

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#201  Edited By cracks
@Stormcell: Does Storm have complete control over her water molecules that are in her body? If not, then Iceman wins.        %Pr
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#202  Edited By Tevnoba
@Stormcell said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" @King Psyker said:
" @Vance Astro:  So is storm "
No she's not. "
While she has not been officially labelled that, she does potentially wield unlimited power.   Also, Iceman is not freezing Storm at all. She can absorb heat and lightning to counter that or even fight him for control. What's to stop her from taking control of his body and completely destroying him same as she did to Hydroman? "
Because Bobby has more control first and foremost.
 
@King Psyker said:
" @Vance Astro said:
" @King Psyker said:
" @Vance Astro:  So is storm "
No she's not. "
She is 2nd in command of the X Men and way smarter "

That has nothing to do with being an Omega Level Mutant.
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#203  Edited By Matezoide2
@cracks said:
" @Stormcell: Does Storm have complete control over her water molecules that are in her body? If not, then Iceman wins.        %Pr "
no she doesnt,even if she had any control over her water molecules,Iceman's control is far bigger
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#204  Edited By cracks
@Matezoide: Then Iceman wins. It is as simple as that.       %Pr
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#205  Edited By Matezoide2
@cracks said:

" @Matezoide: Then Iceman wins. It is as simple as that.       %Pr "

yep
Iceman is immortal,and can heal from any harm Storm can give to him
if she melts him? he becomes solid again
if he (somehow) becomes vapor? he enters inside her lungs and freeze her from inside
he posses total control over his body
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#206  Edited By cracks
@King Psyker: Yes he is.           %Pr
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#207  Edited By azaritorrent

if she vaporizes him she can further and more easily control him. just like she did amelia(sp).
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#208  Edited By cracks
@azaritorrent: Iceman could simply transfer his consciousness to her water molecules in her body or to a lake a few miles away.  Destroying Iceman's body won't help in Storm really defeating Iceman.              Iceman could simply freeze Storm's water molecules.         %Pr
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#209  Edited By Matezoide2

nothing Storm can do will stop Iceman,any damage she gives him,he will just reform in seconds,Storm cant survive having her brain froze in sub-zero

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#210  Edited By Stormcell


Iceman cannot freeze Storm's molecules. In order to do that, he would have to take the heat out of her body. Not only does she control heat, but she can generate and absorb lightning into her body which is many times hotter than the surface of the sun. Everything Iceman controls, Storm controls and has demonstrated much more power. Iceman's label as an omega mutant (stupid and silly as it is) speaks only to his potential. He is nowhere near strong enough right now to take on an advasary like Storm. Then she has attacks that he cannot defend against like electricity. Storm has atomic and sub-atomic control over the elements which means she can dissipate him easily  at the atomic level if not subatomic level like she did Stardust and has the will to prevent  him from being able to come back together assuming he's still alive if she goes to that extreme against him.       
 
@cracks said:

" @azaritorrent: Iceman could simply transfer his consciousness to her water molecules in her body or to a lake a few miles away.  Destroying Iceman's body won't help in Storm really defeating Iceman.              Iceman could simply freeze Storm's water molecules.         %Pr " 
 
 
 
 
He travels as vapor, right? Anyway, the last thing he would want to do is move his consciousness into Storm. She is much stronger willed than he is and she should be able to squash him then. Storm controls moisture too which means this could end up in a battle of the wills in which she would easily best him.    

   
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#211  Edited By cracks
@Stormcell: It does not matter what Storm does to Iceman. Iceman can transfer his consciousness into Storm's water molecules or any other lake nearby.  Storm's will does not involve her own water molecules.  Iceman can reach near absolute zero temperatures.            %Pr
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#212  Edited By Matezoide2

why cant you undestand,Iceman can only be destroied if theres no cell left for him to heal from and if theres no humidity  close by,even if Bob stood still and let Storm destroy all of his cells (wich she cant btw) he would be able to reform from the water in Storm's body,by sending his consious
 
ho,Storm control heat (i doubt it),well Sunfire is a fire dude and he couldnt even use his powers until Iceman letted him do it
even if Storm controls heat,she isnt an omega level,but Iceman is,his control is bigger than hers,he just holds back MUCH more than Storm ever did
heck,all Iceman needs to do is freeze the water in Storm's body and the fight is over,
this fight is a stomp,plain and simple

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#213  Edited By cracks
@Matezoide: Even then it would not matter. Iceman can transfer his consciousness into any water molecules.  He wouldn't need anything else except for his consciousness.             %Pr
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#214  Edited By spiderpigbart

Robert Drake. He wins.

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#215  Edited By Matezoide2
@cracks: 
i know,with is why i said " even if Bob stood still and let Storm destroy all of his cells (wich she cant btw) he would be able to reform from the water in Storm's body,by sending his consious" xD
 
 but yeah,Iceman still wins
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#216  Edited By spiderpigbart
@cracks said:
" @Stormcell: It does not matter what Storm does to Iceman. Iceman can transfer his consciousness into Storm's water molecules or any other lake nearby.  Storm's will does not involve her own water molecules.  Iceman can reach near absolute zero temperatures.            %Pr "
I think he CAN reach absolute zero.
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#217  Edited By cracks
@Matezoide: What effect does lightning have on ice?  Just curious
 
Storm could completely destroy Iceman's body, but not his consciousness.  I agree.                %Pr
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#218  Edited By xan84
@spiderpigbart said:
" @cracks said:
" @Stormcell: It does not matter what Storm does to Iceman. Iceman can transfer his consciousness into Storm's water molecules or any other lake nearby.  Storm's will does not involve her own water molecules.  Iceman can reach near absolute zero temperatures.            %Pr "
I think he CAN reach absolute zero. "

No he can't. For him to do that he will have to freeze the entire  universe to absolute zero.
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#219  Edited By spiderpigbart
@Xan said:
" @spiderpigbart said:
" @cracks said:
" @Stormcell: It does not matter what Storm does to Iceman. Iceman can transfer his consciousness into Storm's water molecules or any other lake nearby.  Storm's will does not involve her own water molecules.  Iceman can reach near absolute zero temperatures.            %Pr "
I think he CAN reach absolute zero. "
No he can't. For him to do that he will have to freeze the entire  universe to absolute zero. "
I was thinking of in X-Men: First Class, when he  turned into a Frost Giant.  Please do not start  yelling that it is non-cannon.
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#220  Edited By cracks
@Xan: Iceman can reach near absolute zero, but can't reach it.
 
@spiderpigbart said:
" @Xan said:
" @spiderpigbart said:
" @cracks said:
" @Stormcell: It does not matter what Storm does to Iceman. Iceman can transfer his consciousness into Storm's water molecules or any other lake nearby.  Storm's will does not involve her own water molecules.  Iceman can reach near absolute zero temperatures.            %Pr "
I think he CAN reach absolute zero. "
No he can't. For him to do that he will have to freeze the entire  universe to absolute zero. "
I was thinking of in X-Men: First Class, when he  turned into a Frost Giant.  Please do not start  yelling that it is non-cannon. "

How big was the Frost Giant?               %Pr
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#221  Edited By spiderpigbart
@cracks said:
" @Xan: Iceman can reach near absolute zero, but can't reach it.
 
@spiderpigbart said:
" @Xan said:
" @spiderpigbart said:
" @cracks said:
" @Stormcell: It does not matter what Storm does to Iceman. Iceman can transfer his consciousness into Storm's water molecules or any other lake nearby.  Storm's will does not involve her own water molecules.  Iceman can reach near absolute zero temperatures.            %Pr "
I think he CAN reach absolute zero. "
No he can't. For him to do that he will have to freeze the entire  universe to absolute zero. "
I was thinking of in X-Men: First Class, when he  turned into a Frost Giant.  Please do not start  yelling that it is non-cannon. "
How big was the Frost Giant?               %Pr "
Maybe thirty-forty feet tall.
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#222  Edited By JThree47693

Iceman wins here
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#223  Edited By azaritorrent

storm can host eternity's consciousness she would have no trouble besting icemans..
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#224  Edited By John Valentine

Iceman.
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#225  Edited By Shadey

Storm

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#227  Edited By rbysjti

Storm wins this. Iceman can't beat her. Storm is just too powerful for Iceman to handle.

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If it's just storm vs Iceman...I think Iceman wins if he surpises her. He can freeze the air around her and take her down once she hits the ground. If he dosent surpise her he will have a hard time because of her controlling the wind but he can still wind.
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#229  Edited By Stormultt
@They Killed Cap!:
Wind is storms Only protection as a DEFENSE. Iceman is water and one with H20 in whole, he has a very huge advantage. he's practically a god. she cannot defeat him.
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#230  Edited By FLCL1
@Shadey said:
"Storm "

u would be wrong
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#231  Edited By xan84

I don't understant how people can say Storm can win this no matter what she does. If Iceman just stays there and she hit him with everything she got and he will still reform and kill her. 
There is no way she wins this.
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#232  Edited By John Valentine
@Stormultt said:
"@They Killed Cap!: Wind is storms Only protection as a DEFENSE. Iceman is water and one with H20 in whole, he has a very huge advantage. he's practically a god. she cannot defeat him. "

:O:O:O!
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#233  Edited By cracks
@rbysjti: No. Iceman freezes Storm;s water molecules. 
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#234  Edited By Stormcell
@Stormultt said:
"@They Killed Cap!: Wind is storms Only protection as a DEFENSE. Iceman is water and one with H20 in whole, he has a very huge advantage. he's practically a god. she cannot defeat him. "

Not only does Storm control what he controls, she controls electricity. Electricity trumps Iceman's powers. Electricity destroys water at the atomic level
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#235  Edited By Lunacyde  Moderator

Storm cannot kill Iceman. On the other hand he indeed can kill her.

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#236  Edited By rbysjti

Yes she can if Storm has to do it.

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#237  Edited By Static Shock
@rbysjti said:
" Yes she can if Storm has to do it. "
How do you kill someone that can reform their body from the moisture in another person's body?
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#238  Edited By xan84
@Static Shock said:
" @rbysjti said:
" Yes she can if Storm has to do it. "
How do you kill someone that can reform their body from the moisture in another person's body? "

By the power of her fans.
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#239  Edited By Static Shock

LOL.

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#240  Edited By rbysjti

Storm can tear those patterns apart so Iceman can no longer reform. Just like the phalanx, they reform but still get destroyed. Besides, fi Storm has been able to put  hmmmm... was it amelia who could turn into smoke, the lady from acolyte? Storm was able to put her back to human form and Storm can do that to Iceman and beat him in flesh form.

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me, vance astro and white magye have said this time and time afgain....storm stomps shes near LT's levelm of powwer read a COMIC!
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#242  Edited By Static Shock
@PhantomTempestStorm said:
" me, vance astro and white magye have said this time and time afgain....storm stomps shes near LT's levelm of powwer read a COMIC! "
She's not even close to Living Tribunal.
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@Static Shock said:
" @PhantomTempestStorm said:
" me, vance astro and white magye have said this time and time afgain....storm stomps shes near LT's levelm of powwer read a COMIC! "
She's not even close to Living Tribunal. "

Shes been called the "sister" to TOAA shes far way above living tribunal...hed be dying tribunal if he ever messed wtih her. 
 
Storm has played with power on a omniversal level which is above LT according to the marvel endcyclapedia of 2008
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#244  Edited By Static Shock
@PhantomTempestStorm said:
"Shes been called the "sister" to TOAA shes far way above living tribunal...
You're lying.
 
@PhantomTempestStorm said:
" Storm has played with power on a omniversal level which is above LT according to the marvel endcyclapedia of 2008 "
And, either you're lying about this or misinterpreting what was really being said there.
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#245  Edited By Matezoide2
@Static Shock said:
" @PhantomTempestStorm said:
" me, vance astro and white magye have said this time and time afgain....storm stomps shes near LT's levelm of powwer read a COMIC! "
She's not even close to Living Tribunal. "
dude,it is not worthy,just ignore it
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@Matezoide said:
" @Static Shock said:
" @PhantomTempestStorm said:
" me, vance astro and white magye have said this time and time afgain....storm stomps shes near LT's levelm of powwer read a COMIC! "
She's not even close to Living Tribunal. "
dude,it is not worthy,just ignore it "
you dont jknow how to debate i see...ashame..!
@Static Shock said:
" @PhantomTempestStorm said:
"Shes been called the "sister" to TOAA shes far way above living tribunal...
You're lying.
 
@PhantomTempestStorm said:
" Storm has played with power on a omniversal level which is above LT according to the marvel endcyclapedia of 2008 "
And, either you're lying about this or misinterpreting what was really being said there. "

No it particularly said storm was playing with power unimaginable which means LT level. When she manipualted the galactic core she secretly tappeed into TOAAs heaven home power and kiklled the brood. i know this because storm is the embodiment of nature like jean is phoenix force. storm is the wielder of the elements. thor has admitted to her being more powerful than even ODIN! and odin bust galaxies so storm should bnsut multiverses. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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#247  Edited By Static Shock
@PhantomTempestStorm said:
"No it particularly said storm was playing with power unimaginable which means LT level. When she manipualted the galactic core she secretly tappeed into TOAAs heaven home power and kiklled the brood. i know this because storm is the embodiment of nature like jean is phoenix force. storm is the wielder of the elements. thor has admitted to her being more powerful than even ODIN! and odin bust galaxies so storm should bnsut multiverses.            "

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#248  Edited By Final Arrow
@PhantomTempestStorm said:
"@Matezoide said:
" @Static Shock said:
" @PhantomTempestStorm said:
" me, vance astro and white magye have said this time and time afgain....storm stomps shes near LT's levelm of powwer read a COMIC! "
She's not even close to Living Tribunal. "
dude,it is not worthy,just ignore it "
you dont jknow how to debate i see...ashame..!
@Static Shock said:
" @PhantomTempestStorm said:
"Shes been called the "sister" to TOAA shes far way above living tribunal...
You're lying.
 
@PhantomTempestStorm said:
" Storm has played with power on a omniversal level which is above LT according to the marvel endcyclapedia of 2008 "
And, either you're lying about this or misinterpreting what was really being said there. "
No it particularly said storm was playing with power unimaginable which means LT level. When she manipualted the galactic core she secretly tappeed into TOAAs heaven home power and kiklled the brood. i know this because storm is the embodiment of nature like jean is phoenix force. storm is the wielder of the elements. thor has admitted to her being more powerful than even ODIN! and odin bust galaxies so storm should bnsut multiverses.            "

Thor never said that, Comic and issue number! Thats obsured unless you're talking Ulitmates but even then!
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#249  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
@Final Arrow said:
" Thor never said that, Comic and issue number! Thats obsured unless you're talking Ulitmates but even then! "
I've read all three volumes of the Ultimates in which Thor was a member. Nothing of the kind was ever stated.
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@Final Arrow:
Hyperion even stated that ultimate storm was universal and apart of a bigger force.  
 
616 storm explained she was the embodiment on earth of the entire force of nature. she said as a omniversal energy she spawned off the power cosmic and gave it to galactus and gave brith the phoenix force. 
 
The LT is like storms eternity to infinity. but in this case storm is stronger than LT>