Andferne has the right idea, an while u say Emma isn't that strategist, she's in psychic contact w/ Scott Summers. An he defintately is. Look at the combatants involved.
Each team has it's strenghts. Yet there are some things that even out, while Havok and Polaris are most likely the most powerful team here, they are also the most obviously vulnerable, the attacks of every other combatant will affect them and as far as Scott and Alex's immunity, Scott is a better H2H combatant than his younger brother over-all. BP and Storm have a great mix of versatility and overall power available to them, and BP is most likely only vulnerable to Polaris' powerset and perhaps Cyke's or Havok's maxium blasts but neither is 100% definate on their own, not to mention they have to manage to connect. Cyke and Emma are both great tacticians, and have the advantage of being the only team on the feild who can communicate at the speed of thought. They also have another advantage, Scott has led 4 of these combatants on teams, knows them intimately and is well versed in their strenghts and weaknesses. He has been the field leader of arguably the best team (They may not always b most powerful, but their a virtual army they are constantly trained to fight as a Unit, and Scott is the commander trained to use them to their fullest potential, he knows his people) of heroes in the buisness for years, and knows exactly how to use, motivate, and as he's shown before if the occasion calls for it to beat them. Scott realizes that BP (who he likely has files on, just as we all know BP has files on Scott) is the largest threat, he is also most likely aware of Storm and Polaris' resistance to Emma's phschic powers. So here's what he does. Taking advantage of the fact he and his brother don't have that immunity, and Polaris feelings for Havok, he has Emma take his lil brother over and take her out b4 she can react, knowing once she's down they can work together to overpower BP's suit. An he has the advantage of being able to share this plan (which is a scenario he's probably run through b4) at the speed of thought w/ his partner.He opens w/ a full force blast stright into Ororo to take her out (I've seen that whole Storm beat him for leadership arguement like twice i think, you guys remember that was only b/c Maddie was f#%$@ng with his mind right??), Emma does her part. He and his brother pin down BP, and Scott uses his natural abilities to pinpoint and bounce his Optic Blast to make contact b4 the Summers brothers work together to simply overwhelm BP's suit, and Emma puts Alex to sleep. Then they leave.
"Seeing how Havok and Polaris were ignored and not brought into things a lot in the previous pages I wanted to show a couple of scans to highlight Havok being a heavy hitter. Someone who is more than capable of going toe to toe with Storm, Emma, Scott, or Black Panther and come out on top.
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Thankyou! I was just reading this thread and realised that Havok and Polaris were not even in the debate, dismissed like they were nothing. Really pissed me off I must say, Havok and Polaris are just as powerful as Storm, Emma and Scott. Havok wouldn't go down easy and may even kick all they're asses. lol :)
Andferne has the right idea, an while u say Emma isn't that strategist, she's in psychic contact w/ Scott Summers. An he defintately is. Look at the combatants involved.
Each team has it's strenghts. Yet there are some things that even out, while Havok and Polaris are most likely the most powerful team here, they are also the most obviously vulnerable, the attacks of every other combatant will affect them and as far as Scott and Alex's immunity, Scott is a better H2H combatant than his younger brother over-all. BP and Storm have a great mix of versatility and overall power available to them, and BP is most likely only vulnerable to Polaris' powerset and perhaps Cyke's or Havok's maxium blasts but neither is 100% definate on their own, not to mention they have to manage to connect. Cyke and Emma are both great tacticians, and have the advantage of being the only team on the feild who can communicate at the speed of thought. They also have another advantage, Scott has led 4 of these combatants on teams, knows them intimately and is well versed in their strenghts and weaknesses. He has been the field leader of arguably the best team (They may not always b most powerful, but their a virtual army they are constantly trained to fight as a Unit, and Scott is the commander trained to use them to their fullest potential, he knows his people) of heroes in the buisness for years, and knows exactly how to use, motivate, and as he's shown before if the occasion calls for it to beat them. Scott realizes that BP (who he likely has files on, just as we all know BP has files on Scott) is the largest threat, he is also most likely aware of Storm and Polaris' resistance to Emma's phschic powers. So here's what he does. Taking advantage of the fact he and his brother don't have that immunity, and Polaris feelings for Havok, he has Emma take his lil brother over and take her out b4 she can react, knowing once she's down they can work together to overpower BP's suit. An he has the advantage of being able to share this plan (which is a scenario he's probably run through b4) at the speed of thought w/ his partner.He opens w/ a full force blast stright into Ororo to take her out (I've seen that whole Storm beat him for leadership arguement like twice i think, you guys remember that was only b/c Maddie was f#%$@ng with his mind right??), Emma does her part. He and his brother pin down BP, and Scott uses his natural abilities to pinpoint and bounce his Optic Blast to make contact b4 the Summers brothers work together to simply overwhelm BP's suit, and Emma puts Alex to sleep. Then they leave.
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i think that this is a very likely scenario even though i dont like the outcome
"Seeing how Havok and Polaris were ignored and not brought into things a lot in the previous pages I wanted to show a couple of scans to highlight Havok being a heavy hitter. Someone who is more than capable of going toe to toe with Storm, Emma, Scott, or Black Panther and come out on top.
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A burnt skeleton in the process of raising his hands is pretty pointless though.
Seriously though, when it comes down to it if Ororo knows this is to the death, its a wrap. She can feel them breathe, and stop them from consuming oxygen. That's right when the fight starts. That automatically makes Emma turn to her diamond form. The telepaths out. Mind you this is right when the whistle or whatever you like, blows. Sure Havok, Polaris, and Cyke try and get off a shot, but they are severely staggered. She's completely stopping their bodies from using oxygen. No oxygen's flowing to their brains. They'll be standing in an "ocean" of air, suffocating. How long can they keep up their attack through something like that? Emma's the only one putting up a real fight, and this is the only play T'Challa gets in this fight. It's a joke. She's childs play.
Seriously though, when it comes down to it if Ororo knows this is to the death, its a wrap. She can feel them breathe, and stop them from consuming oxygen. That's right when the fight starts. That automatically makes Emma turn to her diamond form. The telepaths out. Mind you this is right when the whistle or whatever you like, blows. Sure Havok, Polaris, and Cyke try and get off a shot, but they are severely staggered. She's completely stopping their bodies from using oxygen. No oxygen's flowing to their brains. They'll be standing in an "ocean" of air, suffocating. How long can they keep up their attack through something like that? Emma's the only one putting up a real fight, and this is the only play T'Challa gets in this fight. It's a joke. She's childs play. "
Seriously though, when it comes down to it if Ororo knows this is to the death, its a wrap. She can feel them breathe, and stop them from consuming oxygen. That's right when the fight starts. That automatically makes Emma turn to her diamond form. The telepaths out. Mind you this is right when the whistle or whatever you like, blows. Sure Havok, Polaris, and Cyke try and get off a shot, but they are severely staggered. She's completely stopping their bodies from using oxygen. No oxygen's flowing to their brains. They'll be standing in an "ocean" of air, suffocating. How long can they keep up their attack through something like that? Emma's the only one putting up a real fight, and this is the only play T'Challa gets in this fight. It's a joke. She's childs play. "
Seriously though, when it comes down to it if Ororo knows this is to the death, its a wrap. She can feel them breathe, and stop them from consuming oxygen. That's right when the fight starts. That automatically makes Emma turn to her diamond form. The telepaths out. Mind you this is right when the whistle or whatever you like, blows. Sure Havok, Polaris, and Cyke try and get off a shot, but they are severely staggered. She's completely stopping their bodies from using oxygen. No oxygen's flowing to their brains. They'll be standing in an "ocean" of air, suffocating. How long can they keep up their attack through something like that? Emma's the only one putting up a real fight, and this is the only play T'Challa gets in this fight. It's a joke. She's childs play. "
or option B,Emma minds rape Storm
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@Gloom you explained it better than i thought people argued whether Storm would win and she can just suffocate them there are other options to how her and Black Panther could win but this one is quick and easy. I want to know what Gambler has to say against this posts. Storm and Black Panther take the win. And she did that by herself Emma Frost can think straight suffocating nobody can.
The only way for Frost to avoid Ororo's ridiculous air molecule manipulation, is to go to diamond form. Once there, all she has is H2H. That's T'Challa's area of expertise, and Emma does not stand a chance.
I think if she just causes a Hailstorm Emma Frost would have to go into Diamond Form and that would leave her unable to use her telepathic abilities and from there anybody can take her in a fight Polaris, Storm, Havok and Black Panther.
Seriously though, when it comes down to it if Ororo knows this is to the death, its a wrap. She can feel them breathe, and stop them from consuming oxygen. That's right when the fight starts. That automatically makes Emma turn to her diamond form. The telepaths out. Mind you this is right when the whistle or whatever you like, blows. Sure Havok, Polaris, and Cyke try and get off a shot, but they are severely staggered. She's completely stopping their bodies from using oxygen. No oxygen's flowing to their brains. They'll be standing in an "ocean" of air, suffocating. How long can they keep up their attack through something like that? Emma's the only one putting up a real fight, and this is the only play T'Challa gets in this fight. It's a joke. She's childs play. "
or option B,Emma minds rape Storm
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I would say "Never gonna happen", but that would be an understatement.
" Storm takes the air out of everyone, Emma takes diamon form then Storm trows a piece of metal and shatters her diamond!!!!! But I have a question, even in diamond form she has to breathe doesnt she? "
No. She's dead to the ways of a typical human body. And although I know that Storm has done some incredible things with air, I'm not sure (yet) just how fast she can use her powers to take the wind out of somebody. However, I know that she has enough versatility (with wind) to get rid of Emma.
Old topic but it looks fun. Storm takes out Cyclops immediately with this.
Black Panther reacts immediately charging Emma. Emma, Polaris, and Havok turn their attention to Storm. Storm begins summoning a wind or pressure dome for protection while Polaris/Havok begin their assault. BP reaches Emma, who was focusing on Storm. By the time Emma can react to BP's speedy assault, the loss of her husband, and the animosity towards Storm, BP's closed the distance. In order to not get smashed she either reverts to her diamond form out of instinct or if shes thinking strategically, she uses her Telekinesis to attack BP. BP within range fires a few energy dagger blasts to distract Emma as Storm finishes her off with another bolt or extention of her shields gusts. This is all within the first few seconds of the fight... At this point Polaris and Havok would have had enough time to come up with a plan of attack and begun to execute it. They go at Storm, hard, giving her a lot of trouble. If they split their fire I don't see them putting up a fight for Storm, they both need to be going at her. So for all of you suggesting Polaris just rip BP with his own Vibranium, think about what Storm is going to do to Lorna the moment she drops her guard... While Storm attempts to hold off the combined assault of Lorna and Alex, BP assesses the battle and finds an opening to strike one of the two. He can't exactly fly so hes going to have to get some height using the surroundings and then fire some energy attacks to distract them. The moment one of the two gets distracted by BP and lets up a little on Storm shes going to have freedom enough to muster a stronger AoE attack. Either a summoning a blizzard, a storm, or a hurricane/tornado she takes the remaining person out.
I honsestly don't see how Emma/Scott have a shot at this. I think Polaris and Havok can pull out a win if they play it smart and let Storm/BP take out Emma/Scott.
Emma has Telekinesis but never used in consciously, she's only used subconsciously while having a night mare. She levitated some knifes and forks. Also, Phoenix used Emma's body to generate a telekinetic shield once. However I don't even think Emma is aware that she is a potential Telekinetic.
" Storm takes the air out of everyone, Emma takes diamon form then Storm trows a piece of metal and shatters her diamond!!!!! But I have a question, even in diamond form she has to breathe doesnt she? "
This is a great battle. I think the fight is going to come down to BP&Storm vs Polaris&Havok. I read some comments and while Emma is no joke I dont see how people think she can beat Storm when Storm has beaten her more than once.
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