Steve Rodgers vs Bruce Wayne

This battle is not really a Captain America versus Batman thread (well sort of), there are stipulations in this match. No costumes, No gadgets....this is a pure H2H combat between Bruce and Steve (notice the thread Steve vs Bruce and not Bats vs Cap)

The fight is like this guys:

The comic here ends in a stalemate but I want to hear from you guys who you think would win, the guys who knows 127 martial art styles versus the guy who is a level 6 in H2H.

This fight is takes place in a dojo and winning conditions is via knock out only

Bruce Wayne.

Bruce Wayne would win IMO because his more cunning.

Steve.

Steve is stronger, faster and quicker. One hit by Rodgers is like 3 hits from Bruce.

Bruce is the better martial artist so the question is are Steve's stats enough to win? I'll go with Wayne at the moment.

I think Steve. While Bruce is ahead in skill, he's not so much ahead that it makes up for the sizable advantage Rodgers has in physical stats. Dude tanked gambit making his suit blow up.

Steve Rogers. I think this has been done.

Bruce Wayne. Steve's stats won't make much of a difference.

Steve EVENTUALLY

Steve.

Steve Rodgers wins this one 7/10 times. Steve is faster, stronger, and one of the best h2h fighters in marvel. Batman may have a slight edge on him in fighting skill, but the difference is slight. Both are excellent tacticians so that shouldn't mean much. Steve Rodgers is basically a good Deathstroke, he's physically overmatched for Bruce, and they are equals in all other facets

Bruce Wayne.

I think this has been done

@tracy: what comic is this ? & I think Steve takes it 6/10

The reason some people give Bruce a win in a Batman v. Cap fight is because of his gadgets giving him more options, that is of course IF you give Bruce the win. I personally would say Cap wins, or stalemate, whichever. In a pure H2H fight I'd say Steve takes it for a solid majority. Bruce is very skilled however that won't be enough to take on Steve's own impressive level of skill, combined with is notably superior physicals.

So Steve still has the serum, just no shield. I don't think Bruce's slight skill advantage will be able to makeup for Steve's superior physicals.

Steve

Stalemate, it's the only correct choice.

Been done. Batman still wins.

It's been done many times.

We should all agree it's a stalemate in order to avoid any..."misunderstandings"

btw imo Bruce wins here.

Agreed Steve should take the majority but from what I know, while Bruce maybe peak (I think most DC and Marvel martial artists are now-a-days) Steve is enhanced. Which basically means he is in between peak human and meta-human, his physical abilities give him the slight edge over Bruce

Deathstroke's states are superior to Steve's. Steve isn't that much stronger or faster than Batman for it to matter much. Hell even endurance wise they stack up well. Steve does heal faster and I believe has better blunt force durability.

@darthaznable:

actually no,, new 52 slade is a little > steve in stats but pre new 52 they are about the same... as far as this battle,, steve always wins due to physicals,,, give bats some toys and he can win....

@axle124: Cap is hardly above peak human. Slade is definitely above peak human.

@darthaznable:

for another thread... but he is at least a one tonner...

@darthaznable:

new 52 slade is 2 til 5 tonner tho...

It would be a long battle, but Cap's enhanced physicals would give him the edge.

bruce for win

Bruce wins. Better skills in fighting.

What I hate about Marvel stats sometimes is how they state a heroes abilities, the serum that Cap has in his system makes him to be enhanced, not peak but some other stats state that the serum makes him to be at least peak human. Marvel just confuses people because you never get a thorough information, but it has been debated in Comic Vine that Steve is enhanced, not peak.

Bruce is better trained in h2h but Steve has better physicals due to the serum. Steve wins 6/10 unfortunately.

Deathstroke's abilities are not that above Steve, the gab between their abilities for me I would compare them to Steve and Bruce. The only real advantage Slade has over Steve is the healing factor (slightly) and the ability to use that 90% brain of his while Steve's advantage over Slade are skills. But I'm not saying Steve beats Slade at all, it has been debated in this vine Slade wins anyway.

What also is stated between the abilities of Slade, Bruce and Steve is that:

Batman- Peak human

Captain America- Enhanced

Deathstroke- Meta-human (low)

Shteve

Bruce.

Steve. He has just enough skill. He is not as skilled as Bruce but has just enough skill and outclasses him.

@tracy: you don't go by stats per say but feats to back those stats.... slade and Steve's feats are complimentary of each other... their strength and speed feats show them to being close to equal... bruce is a notch below them in physical feats... skill feats for bruce put him on their level but not his physical stats... he can make the difference up with toys but in strict h2h, he should lose...

Pinnacle human (73 second mile,perfect memory,can't get drunk) with great skills beats peak human with great skills. Cap for a solid majority.

No, they are about equal in striking power, Bruce kicks trees in half and punch through bricks. Their strength difference doesn't matter much, Batman can hold up 1200 pounds, Captain can hold up 1400 pounds. Speed i am not sure about to be honest. Quicker is the same thing as speed.

Captain might have a very small physical advantage but Batman is the more intelligent and probably the better fighter. I'd say either Batman or draw.

This is what I was trying to say. I meant physically Captain America and Deathstroke are about on par with each other. And if i had too, I'd give the edge to DS physically. I wasn't implying he had Slade's meta-human capabilities (healing/advanced brain function).

Bruce Wayne doesn't HAVE to be the best at everything. He's a peak human which is great, but he can't physically be expected to match up to people like Rodgers and Wilson who are in tiers above him, and have similar skill.

If you're suggesting Slade and Steve are tiers above Bruce physically,then Bruce is in a different galaxy in skill than either of the Super Soldiers

@kokemabb200: A lot of things he does points to him being a low level meta though tbh

Bruce. Steve's stats are basically equal to Bruce except Bruce is superior in the h2h department.

Their stats are equal?

Doesn't Cap know every fighting style in the Marvel Universe? Doesn't that essentially mean he and Batman are equal in that department? I must be missing something unless DC made up some martial arts just for Bats but until then they're equal in my eyes.

Pretty much. Their feats are about the same, but i do believe that Batman is faster.