startrek, stargate and starwars universes vs Doctor who universe

Whos wins in terms of

1.Technology

2.Omnipotent beings

3.Most interesting and exciting universe

4.Powerful overall

@hudyman: Does Doctor Who universe have any omnipotent beings? If not, they get stomped. If so, they stalemate.

@ShootingNova said:

@hudyman: Does Doctor Who universe have any omnipotent beings? If not, they get stomped. If so, they stalemate.

Lol search The Timelords on google. I'm trying to find a way to make it more fairer for the star universes

@charlieboy said:

Star Trek because of the Q Continuum.

The Q Continuum are like kids compared to the timelords

@hudyman: Then it's a stalemate. The Bedlam Spirits of SW are omnipotent. I don't know much on Startrek or Stargate, though it's possible they have omnipotent beings also. Regardless, it's a stalemate.

@charlieboy said:

@hudyman: The Doctor is a timelord and he can't do the kind of things the Q's can.

Are you kidding me?

@ShootingNova said:

@hudyman: Then it's a stalemate. The Bedlam Spirits of SW are omnipotent. I don't know much on Startrek or Stargate, though it's possible they have omnipotent beings also. Regardless, it's a stalemate.

they all have ominipotent beings. lol actually i just have just made it Starwars,Startrek and stargate vs Omega

@hudyman: Well, then it's a stalemate.

Well i need to go now. i bet someone who has seen doctor who will post on this thread to set things straight

@ShootingNova said:

@hudyman: Does Doctor Who universe have any omnipotent beings? If not, they get stomped. If so, they stalemate.

I don't think they do, though some will come in here and claim that the Doctor with prep can defeat anyone and anything.

@Xanni15: LOL, omnipotence > any type of PIS.

@ShootingNova said:

@Xanni15: LOL, omnipotence > any type of PIS.

Just wait, you try telling them that. lol

@Xanni15: LOL.

@charlieboy said:

@Xanni15: I don't really see how someone can compare the Timelord's to the Q's

I don't know much about the Q, though are they really Omnipotent? SW has some real heavy hitters and they could take this.

@charlieboy said:

@Xanni15: A Q could turn the Doctor into a cat.

The Doctor might like being a cat, he'd think it's cool to be a cat. lol

@Xanni15: No, they aren't omnipotent. Well, this is what was said from multiple beings who know the Q.

@charlieboy said:

@Xanni15: The Q are a race of reality manipulators.

That's different.

@ShootingNova said:

@Xanni15: No, they aren't omnipotent. Well, this is what was said from multiple beings who know the Q.

Thanks, never been a big Trek fan besides the newest movie.

@charlieboy:

Fair enough, I'll take your word. Looks like unless someone can support the Doctor Who universe ST won't even be needed.

@Kellar21: @Xanni15: @charlieboy: Let me explain why the doctor who universe Will win. First of all.

THEY HAVE FREAKING OMNIPOTENT BEINGS!. But The timelords dont ever use their powerful forms. Because they can be pretty powerful normally.

Omega Is The most powerful character in this whole thread, He Controlled a star using his mind. and made it turn into a supernova. Once that happened he was sent through an event horizen by accident. While he was in there. he manged to shape the universe to his will. Omega Is an omnipotent being. lol Technically he is God in his universe.

The Timelords has done everything the Qs have. They can take on the form of an entity if they want. Also If the doctor unlocks his full timelord powers, Lol no one in this battle would survive.

The ascended ancients on stargate and the badlam spirits from starwars are Really nothing in this battle. They can be destroyed very easily.

If Omega makes it back to the doctor who universe. The Qs are literally Screwed, he can bring them back to His world, where the Qs powers are basically useless.

@hudyman:

You dis SW and SG characters while pumping up Doctor Who universe. The Time Lords are not omnipotent. If the ascended ancients actually fight and don't hold back they kill the Doctor before he can do anything, same with the big hitters from SW.

@Xanni15 said:

@hudyman:

You dis SW and SG characters while pumping up Doctor Who universe. The Time Lords are not omnipotent. If the ascended ancients actually fight and don't hold back they kill the Doctor before he can do anything, same with the big hitters from SW.

Dude you are so wrong that its laughable.

I am a massive fan of all three of the shows. And Yes The Timelords are omnipotent do some reasearch before you post. The ascended ancients got owned by the ori easily and secondly the cannot interfare. Even if they do. During one of the timelords battles they fought entities like the ascended ancients, and ill give you one guess who won.

Why do you keep saying "The doctor" I said the whole doctor who universe would be in this battle.

Seriously i wouldnt mess with The Gods of Time

@Kellar21 said:

@hudyman

Qs are said to be able to recreate our universe,and making supernovas is to them what breathing is for us,they don't even sweat the Q are omnipotent too.

Now Omega was defeated against his will right?The only ones that did that to the Q where the Q themselves.

Badlam Spirits are omnipotents as well,the only ones who aren't are the Ancients because they couldn't fully depower one of them,but they could solo the more "normal" races.

Whats this about full timelord powers???The Doctors have only be shown to regenerate have a more "advanced" physical body and telepathy.and most of them died to the Daleks with tech the Qs would stomp them

Q were immortal to anything BUT a bigger numbers of Q,and could survive the destruction of a Universe IIRC

Omega wasnt defeated, He was conducting an experiment. When the experiment went wrong it opened an event horizen to another universe. Which he was pulled into. It was an antimatter universe, And he was able to control it and technically be god. It is also known that he has created civilisations in that universe. he has made planets,stars,etc Oh and also He created a black hole.

This is probably my favourite part. Tardises Are The universe, If a tardis is destroyed, The whole universe gets destroyed along with it. Plus the timelords have survived the destruction of the universe many many times. Its just a regular monday morning for them.

Also The Doctor has powers. Some he doesnt want to use (Because it could destroy a planet or more) And others He doesnt know about.

@Kellar21 said:

@hudyman

Yet they were drove to almost extinction by the Daleks,some omnipotence you have there.

Did you read what I wrote?Q's baby was throwing planets out of orbit and he was a few years old now imagine waht a Q with billions of years would do.

Creating a black hole is not that big a feat here.

And the ancients NEVER fought the Ori,they would have won by sheer numbers(they didn't because the fight would be too destructive and The Ori were AFRAID of them) and they intervene if there's someone on their level playing around,In Ark of the Truth only Morgana intervened and she alone couldn't take on a one and a half galaxies of worshiping Adria.after Adria was depowered they engaged in eternal combat cause they were equal in power so if the two galaxies worship the ancients that would be a huge powerup for them.

The Q and the Ancients could also easily manipulate time.

Either way the Team stomps by numbers alone.

Lol at that time The timelords really were not interested in battle, They focused on technology and Time

throwing a planet out of orbit isnt anything big, So im just going to ignore that

Actually it is. Being able to create things like that says alot

The ancients arent anything compared to the Timelords

Nope The Ancients couldnt even get a simple puddle jumper to travel properly, The Q are not quite close to where the Timelords are

nope, Each universe could be erased and restarted by the timelords Ripping out the vortex in each galaxy

@hudyman said:

@Xanni15 said:

@hudyman:

You dis SW and SG characters while pumping up Doctor Who universe. The Time Lords are not omnipotent. If the ascended ancients actually fight and don't hold back they kill the Doctor before he can do anything, same with the big hitters from SW.

Dude you are so wrong that its laughable.

I am a massive fan of all three of the shows. And Yes The Timelords are omnipotent do some reasearch before you post. The ascended ancients got owned by the ori easily and secondly the cannot interfare. Even if they do. During one of the timelords battles they fought entities like the ascended ancients, and ill give you one guess who won.

Why do you keep saying "The doctor" I said the whole doctor who universe would be in this battle.

Seriously i wouldnt mess with The Gods of Time

Omnipotent beings that had trouble with the Daleks. Do you know what omnipotent means?

The Ancients were never owned by the Ori, and why restrict them if you're going to give the Time Lords their full power?

Because the Doctor is the biggest threat.

@Kellar21 said:

@hudyman

You didn't refute about the Daleks, are they omnipotent too?If not how they could almost exterminate the Timelords,if they were omnipotent being caught by surprise wouldn't be a problem.Why would they need tech if they were omnipotent by themselves?

Yes they could,their technology was extremely advanced they were only defeated by numbers and their arrogance.

To be done by a baby with a few months/years i think it is, have any timelords childs done this by their own power?

The Ancients and the Asgard could create Black holes with their tech.Yes the Q are superior to them the only weakness they have showed was against others of their race.

I want to see they try and do that before the Qs turn them into amoebas.

Timelords had problems transfering their whole knowledge telepatically, Q could turn humans into Qs like it was nothing.

A single ancient could erase from reality an entire fleet without effort and it was a very depowered one.

The most powerful thing I remember a Doctor doing while amped was casting a shield on himself flying and having some TP.

They were just normal Galifrayens when that happened

The Timelords Created The Black Holes, They are they reason that ancients can use their tech to make a black hole

Well considering That Timelord children Have Seen The Vortex, Technically they can do more than just throw a planet of orbit

The ancients and asgard as nothing to the Timelords

Lol using the chamelon arch They could create a Q

Yup a single timelord can erase an entire galaxy without effort

Again Stop using the doctor as examples, He hasnt done anything even close to what the superior timelords have done

Also You need to remember one thing Timelords and Gallifreyans are Very different things. it is basically like saying. 16th century peasants and present day Presidents are the same thing

@Xanni15 said:

@hudyman said:

@Xanni15 said:

@hudyman:

You dis SW and SG characters while pumping up Doctor Who universe. The Time Lords are not omnipotent. If the ascended ancients actually fight and don't hold back they kill the Doctor before he can do anything, same with the big hitters from SW.

Dude you are so wrong that its laughable.

I am a massive fan of all three of the shows. And Yes The Timelords are omnipotent do some reasearch before you post. The ascended ancients got owned by the ori easily and secondly the cannot interfare. Even if they do. During one of the timelords battles they fought entities like the ascended ancients, and ill give you one guess who won.

Why do you keep saying "The doctor" I said the whole doctor who universe would be in this battle.

Seriously i wouldnt mess with The Gods of Time

Omnipotent beings that had trouble with the Daleks. Do you know what omnipotent means?

The Ancients were never owned by the Ori, and why restrict them if you're going to give the Time Lords their full power?

Because the Doctor is the biggest threat.

Read what i said before because i am not even going to answer this

I havent restricted the ancients, all i am saying is that ascended timelords will literally destroy the ancients and plus The ancients will not even engage the timelords

Wow just wow. Have you been reading anything i have posted? or do you even know anything about Doctor who?

@hudyman said:

@Xanni15 said:

@hudyman said:

@Xanni15 said:

@hudyman:

You dis SW and SG characters while pumping up Doctor Who universe. The Time Lords are not omnipotent. If the ascended ancients actually fight and don't hold back they kill the Doctor before he can do anything, same with the big hitters from SW.

Dude you are so wrong that its laughable.

I am a massive fan of all three of the shows. And Yes The Timelords are omnipotent do some reasearch before you post. The ascended ancients got owned by the ori easily and secondly the cannot interfare. Even if they do. During one of the timelords battles they fought entities like the ascended ancients, and ill give you one guess who won.

Why do you keep saying "The doctor" I said the whole doctor who universe would be in this battle.

Seriously i wouldnt mess with The Gods of Time

Omnipotent beings that had trouble with the Daleks. Do you know what omnipotent means?

The Ancients were never owned by the Ori, and why restrict them if you're going to give the Time Lords their full power?

Because the Doctor is the biggest threat.

Read what i said before because i am not even going to answer this

I havent restricted the ancients, all i am saying is that ascended timelords will literally destroy the ancients and plus The ancients will not even engage the timelords

Wow just wow. Have you been reading anything i have posted? or do you even know anything about Doctor who?

You said that the ancients could not interfere, which means they can't be in this battle. Why wouldn't they engage the Timelords if they perceive them as threat?

Instead of posting a counter you make assumptions. There's no way for one omnipotent being to defeat another.

Yes, go ahead and tell us how the Master or Mega is going to defeat countless universes when they were both defeated by the Doctor, who is not all powerful.

@Xanni15 said:

@hudyman said:

@Xanni15 said:

@hudyman said:

@Xanni15 said:

@hudyman:

You dis SW and SG characters while pumping up Doctor Who universe. The Time Lords are not omnipotent. If the ascended ancients actually fight and don't hold back they kill the Doctor before he can do anything, same with the big hitters from SW.

Dude you are so wrong that its laughable.

I am a massive fan of all three of the shows. And Yes The Timelords are omnipotent do some reasearch before you post. The ascended ancients got owned by the ori easily and secondly the cannot interfare. Even if they do. During one of the timelords battles they fought entities like the ascended ancients, and ill give you one guess who won.

Why do you keep saying "The doctor" I said the whole doctor who universe would be in this battle.

Seriously i wouldnt mess with The Gods of Time

Omnipotent beings that had trouble with the Daleks. Do you know what omnipotent means?

The Ancients were never owned by the Ori, and why restrict them if you're going to give the Time Lords their full power?

Because the Doctor is the biggest threat.

Read what i said before because i am not even going to answer this

I havent restricted the ancients, all i am saying is that ascended timelords will literally destroy the ancients and plus The ancients will not even engage the timelords

Wow just wow. Have you been reading anything i have posted? or do you even know anything about Doctor who?

You said that the ancients could not interfere, which means they can't be in this battle. Why wouldn't they engage the Timelords if they perceive them as threat?

Instead of posting a counter you make assumptions. There's no way for one omnipotent being to defeat another.

Yes, go ahead and tell us how the Master or Mega is going to defeat countless universes when they were both defeated by the Doctor, who is not all powerful.

The Ancients wont really do anything, i Mean They let anubis and the replicator take over the galaxies, enslaving and killing millions

True but not in all cases

Omega was never defeated by the doctor. Neither was the master. Listen The Doctor is Weak compared to all the other Timelords, He is only powerful because he is The Last Of His Kind. Omega is now a god, If he manages to get out of his universe ( Which he will eventually) Anything that stands in his way is gone. Since omega is alive in this battle he literally curbstomps

@Kellar21 said:

@hudyman

Hmm then why they still needed their Planetary shield and after some time forgot about their most powerful tech and treated it like it was cerimonial,important to remember they didn't ignored they just forgot.

And what the superior timelords have done by their own power? if the Doctor survived the Time War then he should be more powerful that those others that were EXTERMINATED by the Daleks yet he can still get physically harmed(he has a very good HF)

Black Holes in Whoverse =/= Black Holes on Gateverse

Timelords still depend on their tech from waht I can see otherwise the Doctor would just teleport by himself.

This is getting out of hand,the biggest feats of the timelords were done with their tech,and they could be killed by energy weapons if shot enough times or desintegrated or hit with Stasers(sp) which stopped their HF.

Timelords still have physical bodies and rely on their tech to do most of their work.Otherwise they would abandon their tech like the Qs did.They do have TP,some kind of cosmic awareness and good regen.Don't see what they would do to beings that evolved past that to other planes of existence and destroying a galaxy won't do squat to them.

Also please tell me when a timelord child ever did that under their own power.

Will you just please listen to what i am saying.

Timelords CAN Ascend into beings like the ancients. Some have, Instead the majority stays behind to Teach the gallifreyans About their legacy and show them how to use the tech they have.

@Kellar21 said:

@hudyman

Hmm then why they still needed their Planetary shield and after some time forgot about their most powerful tech and treated it like it was cerimonial,important to remember they didn't ignored they just forgot.

And what the superior timelords have done by their own power? if the Doctor survived the Time War then he should be more powerful that those others that were EXTERMINATED by the Daleks yet he can still get physically harmed(he has a very good HF)

Black Holes in Whoverse =/= Black Holes on Gateverse

Timelords still depend on their tech from waht I can see otherwise the Doctor would just teleport by himself.

This is getting out of hand,the biggest feats of the timelords were done with their tech,and they could be killed by energy weapons if shot enough times or desintegrated or hit with Stasers(sp) which stopped their HF.

Timelords still have physical bodies and rely on their tech to do most of their work.Otherwise they would abandon their tech like the Qs did.They do have TP,some kind of cosmic awareness and good regen.Don't see what they would do to beings that evolved past that to other planes of existence and destroying a galaxy won't do squat to them.

Also please tell me when a timelord child ever did that under their own power.

The Ancients wont really do anything, i Mean They let anubis and the replicator take over the galaxies, enslaving and killing millions

You misunderstand the Replicators and Anubis were beneath them in the lower plane,they didn't intervene because it was the natural course of Nature(thought they did were the cause of most of their problems but meh),they only intervene if a threat form their level of power like the ORI would enter the galaxy,now you prove you don't know much about Stargate

I admit I don't know much about the Whoverse but I did my research and without their tech timelords are nothing compared to the Q even with their tech they still get stomped by heavy reality warping.

And the master was dead because he stopped his HF so he died from physical damage.

Sorry about the music Just mute it

@Kellar21: In the sanctuary episode What she did was nothing impossible. A tardis could do that with one push of a button. But if a tardis did do that. It would accidently erase all the wraith