Starkiller and Galen Marek vs Darth Vader and Darth Maul

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This is Vader from ESB, and Maul from TPM. Fight takes place in empty Jedi Temple, they start 50 feet apart.

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If we are assuming that Galen and Starkiller will use a brain and not engage them in a lightsaber duel then they win.

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Team 1 kicks ass.

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Yeah but are Starkiller and Galen really terrible duelists?

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Yeah but are Starkiller and Galen really terrible duelists?

No. Their forte is just in force abilities. Both at best are at least on par with Vader in terms of bladework.

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Yeah but are Starkiller and Galen really terrible duelists?

They aren't. Both are masters of Juyo, requiring them to be high-level masters of multiple forms. And by the end of the first book, Marek went toe to toe with Vader himself, a showcase of his tremendously strong connection to the Force as well. People like to deem Marek a weak lightsaber combatant because of early struggles with Jedi like Shaak Ti and Rahm Kota but forget that Marek improved after each fight; at the time he faced Vader, he was a completely different beast.

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Starkiller bad Galen win for reasons stated above also darthmual is nothing special

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That's what I thought, too. I saw a lot of comments on how Starkiller is a terrible duelist and how he would get stomped by Maul and stuff.

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Starkiller at best was as good as Pre-ANH Vader. Let's not overblow his dueling ability here. He's really pretty incompetent when it comes to dueling.

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Starkiller is pretty beast, but Vader should beat him without plot armor getting in the way.

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Team 1 wins. Starkiller could probably ragdoll or come close to ragdolling Maul, to be honest.

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Team 1. They have real raw power.

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team 1

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Vader at this time has surpassed both, so he should beat both. But Maul is going to be overwhelmed by Starkiller without too much effort on the latter's part. Plus, Team 1 should have better synergy.

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#15 Zapan871  Online

Team 1 takes Force due to Maul being a weak link, but team 2 takes sabers, though the two Starkillers are indeed highly skilled duelists.

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The Gary Stu's take it.

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#17  Edited By ComicStooge

@i_like_swords said:

The Gary Stu's take it.

TCW Maul and RotJ Vader tho?

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@i_like_swords said:

The Gary Stu's take it.

TCW Maul and RotJ Vader tho?

Doesn't make too big a difference. Maul doesn't improve too drastically, nor does Vader to my knowledge.

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Team 1 has already beaten both in a dual

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I agree. TPM is really no more powerful than his CW self, at all. RotJ Vader is not that much better than his previous self anymore than RotS Anakin was his season 4 CA self. Both gain more power but not enough in feats to say it matters.

I would have side with team two.

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Team 2 for a majority. Darth Vader who wasn't trying to kill Starkiller and yet disarmed him in his ANH incarnation (who is skill wise inferior to his ESB/ROTJ incarnation). The only way that Starkiller won was by plot armor.

Team 2 is more skilled by a very decent degree while team 1 is more powerfull but Maul could hold his ground for a (short) while.