Starfire and Cheetah vs Ms. Marvel and Moonstone

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#1  Edited By sa5m
Starfire:
Starfire:
Cheetah
Cheetah

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Ms Marvel
Ms Marvel
Moonstone
Moonstone

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  • Pre 52
  • No prep
  • Staring 100 feet away
  • No binary
  • Morals off

Who wins and why?

Please use logic and reasoning

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#2  Edited By Pokeysteve

Starfire and Ms. Marvel will keep each other busy but Moonstone vs Cheetah is interesting. Don't know a lot about Moonstone and her page isn't as clear as I'd like. Cheetah might solo if Moonstone doesn't have the speed to stop her. Can someone provide more info on her? Moonstone speed, strength, reflex feats?

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#3  Edited By the_stegman  Moderator
@Pokeysteve: Moonstone has good raw speed, like flight and such...but I don't think she has the agility to actually catch cheetah...however I do believe she can become intangible...
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#4  Edited By torzone

Team 2: Ms. Marvel are more experienced & have more powers, in my opinion. Starfire and Cheetah are good, but just not that good to handle these two.

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#5  Edited By Video_Martian

Team 2

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#6  Edited By jeanroygrant

@mr.obvious said:

Team 2

Could they tag Cheetah.

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#7  Edited By Sherlock
@Pokeysteve: Moonstones physical stats are about the same and Ms Marvels
@The Stegman: Yes she can become intagible though she doesnt do so very often
@torzone: Kory has been trained as a warrior since birth so i dont know where you get more expirience from.Moonstone does have a wider array of powers but the relevance of this is minimal since Cheetah is (If not then close) to a light speeder.She could prolly solo this actually
@jeanroygrant: No they cant
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#8  Edited By Pokeysteve

@The Stegman said:

@Pokeysteve: Moonstone has good raw speed, like flight and such...but I don't think she has the agility to actually catch cheetah...however I do believe she can become intangible...

*Strokes chin* Interesting, interesting.

@Sherlock:

Kory has been trained as a warrior since birth so i dont know where you get more expirience from.Moonstone does have a wider array of powers but the relevance of this is minimal since Cheetah is (If not then close) to a light speeder.She could prolly solo this actually

That's what I was thinking too. Can't beat her when you can't touch her.

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#9  Edited By Sherlock
@Pokeysteve: You can say the same for Moonstone however as she can become intangible
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#10  Edited By Pokeysteve

@Sherlock: Touche

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#11  Edited By jeanroygrant

Bump.

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#12  Edited By Simon_the_digger

Team 2

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@ferdelance:

not a chance,starfire is above ms marvel,and cheetah is an speeder faster than wonder woman herself,they can't do anything against cheetah's speed,team one wins.

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Team 1 because of Cheetah.

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#15  Edited By gokuwarrior

@simon_the_digger: not a chance,starfire is above ms marvel,and cheetah is an speeder faster than wonder woman herself,they can't do anything against cheetah's speed,team one wins.

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Team 2 because of Moonstone, she can become intangible, I don't see the others being able to deal with this

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#17  Edited By Joygirl

Cheetah solos.

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#18  Edited By Emperorb777

Cheetah is pretty much WW equal she would solo.

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cheetah solos.

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@veitha said:

Team 2 because of Moonstone, she can become intangible, I don't see the others being able to deal with this

team 2 is completely helpless against cheetah's speed,and starfire has better stats than ms marvel and better skills,but cheetah doesn't need starfire,cheetah can solo.

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Team 1

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If Carol can't ascend to Binary it's generally agreed on that Starfire eventually beats her. I don't know Moonstone well but I feel comfortable in supporting Cheetah in this. So, final verdict, I win -- this is quite a sexy fight. :D But seriously, team 1.

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@joygirl: Moonstone can become intangible has blast attacks, superspeed and can phase. IMO if she can go intangible before Cheetah rips her head off then Moonstone solos. Because of Moonstone speed I believe she can go intangible before Cheetah hits her. either Cheetah solos or Moonstone stalemates or solos

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#25  Edited By gokuwarrior

team 2 dies,starfire has higher stats than ms marvel,and cheetah is way more powerful than anybody else here.

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@pooty said:

@joygirl: Moonstone can become intangible has blast attacks, superspeed and can phase. IMO if she can go intangible before Cheetah rips her head off then Moonstone solos. Because of Moonstone speed I believe she can go intangible before Cheetah hits her. either Cheetah solos or Moonstone stalemates or solos

moonstone has no feats to support she can react to somebody faster than wonder woman that gives flash a run for his money.

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Moonstone could take Cheetah if she remains intangible, the moment she turns tangible however, she's going to be killed by Cheetah. While Carol does get more powerful form absorbing energy and could to the same to Starfire, Kori isn't an idiot she'd eventually figure it out and beat Carol H2H.

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I'm still right

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Moonstone demolished Ms.Marvel in their first fight but Carol ended up beating her so I don't see why Cheetah cant win here.

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@agent41: Not sure about Starfire because she will just amp them with her starbolts but I agree that Cheetah would very likely win this alone.

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#34  Edited By robertloucksjr

I believe Moonston's strength (maybe 20 tonner?) and durability is a less than even classic Ms. Marvel. I also don't remember her attacking while intangible. Smarter though.

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@robertloucksjr: Moonstone is Class 50 but she might be stronger now since she is basically suppose to be Carol's equal and this morals off so she is very likely to go intangible. @agent41: Kori is classified as 75 tons in strength but she might be a bit stronger since she held her own against Mon-El and Donna Troy so she going to have to not use her energy bolts.

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Team 1, Ms marvel will put up a decent fight but would eventually go down, while moonstone could stay intangible and try to overwhelm cheetah with a barrage of energy attacks I can see Cheetah dodging most of these attacks and Kori and cheetah would take moonstone down.

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@agent41: Only you overrate the speed than any other users. ^^

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Team 2 wins IMO, with Moonstone as MVP.

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Cheetah solos.

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#49  Edited By Kingant27

@agent41: Just don't, she doesn't solo, and despite you always hyping Cheetah; she's got nothing helping her against intangibility.

She isn't far stronger, show me a strength feat which indicates this.

I don't want to deal with your endless hugging and an endless debate, so please don't tag me when you tag everyone else; who doesn't say WW or Cheetah beats everyone.

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@agent41: Just don't, she doesn't solo, and despite you always hyping Cheetah; she's got nothing helping her against intangibility.

She isn't far stronger, show me a strength feat which indicates this.

I don't want to deal with your endless hugging and an endless debate, so please don't tag me when you tag everyone else; who doesn't say WW or Cheetah beats everyone.

She doesn't need to be stronger... Moonstone might make it a stalemate but has no chance of ever tagging Cheetah.

Either Cheetah ends it before Moonstone feels the need to go intangible or it's a stalemate.

@agent41: Only you overrate the speed than any other users. ^^

No, anyone who's read Justice League and doesn't try to lowball as hard as they can knows she's that fast...