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#1 Posted by sa5m (2100 posts) - - Show Bio
Starfire:
Cheetah

VS

Ms Marvel
Moonstone

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  • Pre 52
  • No prep
  • Staring 100 feet away
  • No binary
  • Morals off

Who wins and why?

Please use logic and reasoning

#2 Posted by Pokeysteve (8688 posts) - - Show Bio

Starfire and Ms. Marvel will keep each other busy but Moonstone vs Cheetah is interesting. Don't know a lot about Moonstone and her page isn't as clear as I'd like. Cheetah might solo if Moonstone doesn't have the speed to stop her. Can someone provide more info on her? Moonstone speed, strength, reflex feats?

#3 Posted by The Stegman (26061 posts) - - Show Bio
@Pokeysteve: Moonstone has good raw speed, like flight and such...but I don't think she has the agility to actually catch cheetah...however I do believe she can become intangible...
#4 Posted by torzone (423 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2: Ms. Marvel are more experienced & have more powers, in my opinion. Starfire and Cheetah are good, but just not that good to handle these two.

#5 Posted by Video_Martian (5562 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2

#6 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@mr.obvious said:

Team 2

Could they tag Cheetah.

#7 Posted by Sherlock (7185 posts) - - Show Bio
@Pokeysteve: Moonstones physical stats are about the same and Ms Marvels
@The Stegman: Yes she can become intagible though she doesnt do so very often
@torzone: Kory has been trained as a warrior since birth so i dont know where you get more expirience from.Moonstone does have a wider array of powers but the relevance of this is minimal since Cheetah is (If not then close) to a light speeder.She could prolly solo this actually
@jeanroygrant: No they cant
#8 Posted by Pokeysteve (8688 posts) - - Show Bio

@The Stegman said:

@Pokeysteve: Moonstone has good raw speed, like flight and such...but I don't think she has the agility to actually catch cheetah...however I do believe she can become intangible...

*Strokes chin* Interesting, interesting.

@Sherlock:

Kory has been trained as a warrior since birth so i dont know where you get more expirience from.Moonstone does have a wider array of powers but the relevance of this is minimal since Cheetah is (If not then close) to a light speeder.She could prolly solo this actually

That's what I was thinking too. Can't beat her when you can't touch her.

#9 Posted by Sherlock (7185 posts) - - Show Bio
@Pokeysteve: You can say the same for Moonstone however as she can become intangible
#10 Posted by Pokeysteve (8688 posts) - - Show Bio

@Sherlock: Touche

#11 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump.

#12 Posted by Simon_the_digger (3423 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2

#13 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@ferdelance:

not a chance,starfire is above ms marvel,and cheetah is an speeder faster than wonder woman herself,they can't do anything against cheetah's speed,team one wins.

#14 Posted by Stronger (4948 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1 because of Cheetah.

#15 Edited by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@simon_the_digger: not a chance,starfire is above ms marvel,and cheetah is an speeder faster than wonder woman herself,they can't do anything against cheetah's speed,team one wins.

#16 Posted by Veitha (3362 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2 because of Moonstone, she can become intangible, I don't see the others being able to deal with this

#17 Edited by Joygirl (19954 posts) - - Show Bio

Cheetah solos.

#18 Edited by Immortal777 (7735 posts) - - Show Bio

Cheetah is pretty much WW equal she would solo.

#19 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

cheetah solos.

#20 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@veitha said:

Team 2 because of Moonstone, she can become intangible, I don't see the others being able to deal with this

team 2 is completely helpless against cheetah's speed,and starfire has better stats than ms marvel and better skills,but cheetah doesn't need starfire,cheetah can solo.

#21 Posted by mikep12 (4142 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1

#22 Edited by The_Titan_Lord (7084 posts) - - Show Bio
#23 Posted by Joygirl (19954 posts) - - Show Bio

If Carol can't ascend to Binary it's generally agreed on that Starfire eventually beats her. I don't know Moonstone well but I feel comfortable in supporting Cheetah in this. So, final verdict, I win -- this is quite a sexy fight. :D But seriously, team 1.

#24 Posted by pooty (11730 posts) - - Show Bio

@joygirl: Moonstone can become intangible has blast attacks, superspeed and can phase. IMO if she can go intangible before Cheetah rips her head off then Moonstone solos. Because of Moonstone speed I believe she can go intangible before Cheetah hits her. either Cheetah solos or Moonstone stalemates or solos

#25 Edited by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

team 2 dies,starfire has higher stats than ms marvel,and cheetah is way more powerful than anybody else here.

#26 Posted by gokuwarrior (4368 posts) - - Show Bio

@pooty said:

@joygirl: Moonstone can become intangible has blast attacks, superspeed and can phase. IMO if she can go intangible before Cheetah rips her head off then Moonstone solos. Because of Moonstone speed I believe she can go intangible before Cheetah hits her. either Cheetah solos or Moonstone stalemates or solos

moonstone has no feats to support she can react to somebody faster than wonder woman that gives flash a run for his money.

#27 Posted by dondave (38897 posts) - - Show Bio

Moonstone could take Cheetah if she remains intangible, the moment she turns tangible however, she's going to be killed by Cheetah. While Carol does get more powerful form absorbing energy and could to the same to Starfire, Kori isn't an idiot she'd eventually figure it out and beat Carol H2H.

#28 Posted by agent41 (4105 posts) - - Show Bio

if Cheetah KO or kills moonstone before she goes intangible then Cheetah solos,either way Team one wins,Cheetah has way more raw power,and Starfire is also stronger,faster,more durable and a much better fighter than anybody from team 2.

#29 Posted by dondave (38897 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm still right

#30 Posted by ZhuRong (4942 posts) - - Show Bio

Moonstone demolished Ms.Marvel in their first fight but Carol ended up beating her so I don't see why Cheetah cant win here.

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#31 Posted by agent41 (4105 posts) - - Show Bio

@zhurong said:

Moonstone demolished Ms.Marvel in their first fight but Carol ended up beating her so I don't see why Cheetah cant win here.

as peole said above,if Cheetah KO or kills moonstone before she goes intangible then Cheetah solos,but if not Team one still wins,Cheetah has way more raw power,and Starfire is also stronger,faster,more durable and a much better fighter than anybody from team 2.

#32 Posted by ZhuRong (4942 posts) - - Show Bio

@agent41: Not sure about Starfire because she will just amp them with her starbolts but I agree that Cheetah would very likely win this alone.

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#33 Posted by agent41 (4105 posts) - - Show Bio

@zhurong said:

@agent41: Not sure about Starfire because she will just amp them with her starbolts but I agree that Cheetah would very likely win this alone.

kory is not stupid,one starblot they absorb and she won't keep using energy attacks.

#34 Edited by robertloucksjr (1838 posts) - - Show Bio

I believe Moonston's strength (maybe 20 tonner?) and durability is a less than even classic Ms. Marvel. I also don't remember her attacking while intangible. Smarter though.

#35 Posted by ZhuRong (4942 posts) - - Show Bio

@robertloucksjr: Moonstone is Class 50 but she might be stronger now since she is basically suppose to be Carol's equal and this morals off so she is very likely to go intangible. @agent41: Kori is classified as 75 tons in strength but she might be a bit stronger since she held her own against Mon-El and Donna Troy so she going to have to not use her energy bolts.

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#36 Posted by agent41 (4105 posts) - - Show Bio

@zhurong: one bolt from kory won't amp them that much,and after kory sees them absorb the first one she will take the fight to H2H.

#37 Posted by DemonKnights (5394 posts) - - Show Bio

Dc women stomp

#38 Posted by MarvelousHeroine123 (8 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1, Ms marvel will put up a decent fight but would eventually go down, while moonstone could stay intangible and try to overwhelm cheetah with a barrage of energy attacks I can see Cheetah dodging most of these attacks and Kori and cheetah would take moonstone down.

#39 Posted by RealityWarper (4201 posts) - - Show Bio

@sa5m: Ends in sex because of Karla Sofien

#40 Posted by agent41 (4105 posts) - - Show Bio
#41 Edited by agent41 (4105 posts) - - Show Bio

@marvelousheroine123: I don't see ms marvel putting a decent fight against Cheetah. Her stats are far above ms marvel's.

#42 Edited by Saint_Sophie (2132 posts) - - Show Bio
#43 Posted by agent41 (4105 posts) - - Show Bio

@saint_sophie: Only Cheetah is more underrated than Wonder Woman. I mean come on some people talk about her like if she was a DC tigra for god sake. Cheetah is powered up by a god.

#44 Posted by RealityWarper (4201 posts) - - Show Bio

@agent41: Only you overrate the speed than any other users. ^^

#45 Posted by Kingant27 (7825 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 2 wins IMO, with Moonstone as MVP.

#46 Posted by Night4345 (5795 posts) - - Show Bio

Cheetah solos.

#47 Edited by agent41 (4105 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingant27: Cheetah solos. She is far stronger. Far faster and far more durable than anybody else here and also Starfire based on feats>>moonstone or ms marvel(both have the same power level).

#48 Posted by agent41 (4105 posts) - - Show Bio

@realitywarper: The truth is that they can't deal with Cheetah's speed. It's very difficult for WW to deal with Cheetah's combat speed so for 2 characters that are supersonic at best it will be impposible to keep up. But speed is not Cheetah's only advantage. Let me remaind you that ms marvel and moonstone are are only 80 tonners. Cheetah is far stronger and far more durable than them. Somebody that can take a good amount of killer blows from WW and can hit hard enough to hurt WW and Superman is far above moonstone and ms marvel. Both characters that don't have the strength and durability to do anything against the likes of SM and WW.

#49 Edited by Kingant27 (7825 posts) - - Show Bio

@agent41: Just don't, she doesn't solo, and despite you always hyping Cheetah; she's got nothing helping her against intangibility.

She isn't far stronger, show me a strength feat which indicates this.

I don't want to deal with your endless hugging and an endless debate, so please don't tag me when you tag everyone else; who doesn't say WW or Cheetah beats everyone.

#50 Posted by BoringPerson (2712 posts) - - Show Bio

@agent41: Just don't, she doesn't solo, and despite you always hyping Cheetah; she's got nothing helping her against intangibility.

She isn't far stronger, show me a strength feat which indicates this.

I don't want to deal with your endless hugging and an endless debate, so please don't tag me when you tag everyone else; who doesn't say WW or Cheetah beats everyone.

She doesn't need to be stronger... Moonstone might make it a stalemate but has no chance of ever tagging Cheetah.

Either Cheetah ends it before Moonstone feels the need to go intangible or it's a stalemate.

@agent41: Only you overrate the speed than any other users. ^^

No, anyone who's read Justice League and doesn't try to lowball as hard as they can knows she's that fast...