@darkseid1006 said:
Everyone keeps saying Anakin is more powerful than Vader but IIRC he wasn't... Vader reached his prime sometime around RoTS and was outright stated to be at his most powerful. I think Anakin had the potential to be more powerful but it didn't turn out.
Vader is not more powerful at all by feats, and he only reached his prime as a decrepit machine man by RotJ. He was in his prime as the Chosen One aka Anakin in RotS. After becoming Vader he had to practically re learn how to fight and live in his shattered body which is far inferior to the midochlorian soaked body of his former self.
I will say Vader has more Force abilities/powers/knowledge, and he abuses Tk more so in fights, but thats it. Force Amp wise Anakin is superior by alot as well over all Force feats and Force accomplishments when Anakin applied himself.
@eisenfauste:
In Force power we have these feats.
In the ruined archive hall of LiMerge Power's plasma facility, Count Dooku waited for Kenobi and Skywalker to arrive. The room was enormous by any standard, thirty meters high and three times that in circumference.
More droids appeared. To Dooku, this was nothing more than a game, Obi-Wan told himself. But if it was a demonstration of Force ability Dooku wanted, then Anakin was still more than willing to provide it.
"Dooku!" he howled.
With such force and wrath that the ceiling of the vast hall began to collapse.
Dragging himself out from under plasteel girders and chunks of ferrocrete, Count Dooku came shakily to his feet and gazed in astonished disbelief at the shambles of the control room. Had the containment dome been so weak that it had succumbed to flurries of ricocheting blaster bolts, or had Skywalker's voiced rage actually called the ceiling down? Had Dooku not leapt forcefully at the last moment, he might have been buried, as the two Jedi were, somewhere below, in the expanse of rubble that covered the archive room. He was certain that they had survived. But if nothing else they were trapped, which had been the intent from the start.
But Skywalker... Assuming that he had grown powerful enough to have collapsed the dome, the end result was simply further evidence that he would someday undo himself. Wasn't it? Because admitting to any alternative explanation meant accepting that Skywalker was potentially a greater threat to the Sith than anyone realized.
Labyrinth of Evil
Anakin demolishes a large structure with Force Scream
Rips in half a giant spider Droid.
Pulls down a large Temple Statue, catching a heavy chunk of it to throw later.
Anakin moving over 100+ tons of Separatist Dreadnought ship into a path of missiles.
Here Anakin overpowers the two strongest force beings on a neutral Force Nexus. the only context was Obi Wan telling Anakin to tap into the same Force Nexus the force beings were manipulating since their arrival, and the context of the Father forcing Anakin to go all out by putting his friends in danger. Still Anakin overpowering the Son and Daughter on a neutral Force Nexus planet. So the context here again is this. Obi Wan "Anakin, the planet is the Force. Use it." Pretty clear Obi Wan is mentioning to Anakin to tap into the same Force Nexus as the children have. The Father "Only the chosen one can tame my children." Pretty clear he means only someone as powerful as himself can tame the Son and Daughter on the same neutral Force Nexus they have access to. This is the context some fans simply dont like. Anakin rarely applies himself with the Force, but when he does he proven to be the most powerful
All far greater than 99% of Star Killers.
Then we have the power Anakin used to amp his own physical body which far surpasses Starkiller.
Ventress is durable enough to tank easy 30 tons of solid column onto her body, and roll it off. Can withstand being blown across and through a solid stone wall. Yet Anakin uses the Force to increase his rage to cause Ventress total strain, and ends up shattering the stone ledge under the force of his attacks.
Attack related to as crashing meteors. Dooku had to use the Force heavily to match.
The Quote above states Obi Wan bones must compare to the insides of a star ship, tough material that can tank boarding battles without rupture into space. Yet in the next quote Anakins force empowered strength was enough to cause Obi Wan's bones to start breaking.
Count Dooku with all his 100+ ton TK power hurls a piece of Durasteel at Skywalker. Durasteel is one of the toughest materials in SWs fiction. Anakin with his insane force strength smashes it aside.
I argue Skywalker is much faster via Force Amp as well than Vader or Starkiller could ever hope to be.
Anakin out speeds tank fire.
Anakin is so fast, that Dooku has reach his limits trying to keep up. Even when using his Force reserves.
Anakin with incredible agility out speeds super sonic+ missiles design to chase down star fighters, and cuts them cut them down.
Anakin's speeder shrieked through the rain, dodging forked bolts of lightning that shot up from towers into the clouds, slicing across traffic lanes, screaming past spacescrapers so fast that his shock-wake cracked windows as he passed.
Revenge of the Sith
Anakin stated to dodge Lightning with his reaction time.
Reacts to Force Lightning after it has been fired. Meaning he had to actively bring up his lightsaber in time to block a electric attack that moves at 1/20th speed of light.
Shows the speed perception to guide a Shuttle dropping out of Hyperspace through a space battle.
Show the ability to blindly sense when to drop from Hyper Space without crashing into a planet at MFTL speeds
Seriously, go ahead and try to shown me Stakiller using the force to attack or empower himself in ways that compare, I will wait.
Log in to comment