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#1 Posted by brainiac 5 (118 posts) - - Show Bio

GOKU                                                                    SUPES
SSJ4                                                                      Silver Age
Saiyan Armor                                                        
Spirit Bomb, Dragon fist, Ult. Kamehameha           All Silver Age special moves

(i know the pic does not match the fight)

#2 Posted by brainiac 5 (118 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku curbstomp

#3 Posted by goku-son (2 posts) - - Show Bio
#4 Posted by speedlgt (2109 posts) - - Show Bio

superman wins

he punches Reality destroys goku  very existence

#5 Posted by sky goblin (198 posts) - - Show Bio

superman kills him in three seconds

#6 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio

Not this sh-- again! Goku wins in SS j1 .


#7 Posted by brainiac 5 (118 posts) - - Show Bio
sky goblin said:
"superman kills him in three seconds"
come on, goku's dragon fist could take supes out in 1 second
#8 Edited by speedlgt (2109 posts) - - Show Bio
brainiac 5 said:
"sky goblin said:
"superman kills him in three seconds"
come on, goku's dragon fist could take supes out in 1 second
"
not if his reality is destroyed
all dbz fans underestimate superman

#9 Posted by Rdeegvainl (775 posts) - - Show Bio
brainiac 5 said:
"sky goblin said:
"superman kills him in three seconds"
come on, goku's dragon fist could take supes out in 1 second
"
If you really thought that, why would you make the battle?
#10 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio
speedlgt said:
"brainiac 5 said:
"sky goblin said:
"superman kills him in three seconds"
come on, goku's dragon fist could take supes out in 1 second
"
not if his reality is destroyed
all dbz fans underestimate superman

"



Actually its the other way around

#11 Posted by King Saturn (224189 posts) - - Show Bio
I dont know... Silver Age Superman seemed to have the Power to do virtually anything he wanted to in terms of raw physical strength. The problem is Saiyans have far greater Energy Manipulation powers than the average person Pre Crisis Superman fought during that time... as for who actually wins this fight I think it depends on how quickly Goku of Super Saiyan 4 level can generate a Massive Energy Blast that could level multiple planets. Cause if he cant... well then Silver Age Superman will bash Goku's head in
#12 Posted by brainiac 5 (118 posts) - - Show Bio
speedlgt said:
"brainiac 5 said:
"sky goblin said:
"superman kills him in three seconds"
come on, goku's dragon fist could take supes out in 1 second
"
not if his reality is destroyed
all dbz fans underestimate superman

"
Thats very true, i always underestimate supes when it comes to goku, but silver age supes had allot of powers that modern age supes didnt, so its still a tough battle
#13 Edited by Hedatary (3768 posts) - - Show Bio
brainiac 5 said:
"speedlgt said:
"brainiac 5 said:
"sky goblin said:
"superman kills him in three seconds"
come on, goku's dragon fist could take supes out in 1 second
"
not if his reality is destroyed
all dbz fans underestimate superman

"
Thats very true, i always underestimate supes when it comes to goku, but silver age supes had allot of powers that modern age supes didnt, so its still a tough battle
"
Are you an idiot?! Thats not true at all. it's the other way around because we could never really find out the full powers of dbz characters wheres marvel or dc has there complete bio pat down.


No one knows the full extent of dbz and i managed to figure out allot of shit that no one knew about. Like the fact that Goku has telekineses and telepathy  powers that is extremely powerful, that could easily kiil without lifting a finger. I know that Frieza has this power similer to Jubali, where he could explode something with a thought.

I know for a fact that Gotenks at SS 1 could go around the world so many times it's not even funny, And Goku at SS 3 could easily do that thrice over.
#14 Edited by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio

Ki energy Superman has no defense for .

#15 Posted by brainiac 5 (118 posts) - - Show Bio
Hedatary said:
"brainiac 5 said:
"speedlgt said:
"brainiac 5 said:
"sky goblin said:
"superman kills him in three seconds"
come on, goku's dragon fist could take supes out in 1 second
"
not if his reality is destroyed
all dbz fans underestimate superman

"
Thats very true, i always underestimate supes when it comes to goku, but silver age supes had allot of powers that modern age supes didnt, so its still a tough battle
"
Are you an idiot?! Thats not true at all. it's the other way around because we could never really find out the full powers of dbz characters wheres marvel or dc has there complete bio pat down.


No one knows the full extent of dbz and i managed to figure out allot of shit that no one knew about. Like the fact that Goku has telekineses and telepathy  powers that is extremely powerful, that could easily kiil without lifting a finger. I know that Frieza has this power similer to Jubali, where he could explode something with a thought.

I know for a fact that Gotenks at SS 1 could go around the world so many times it's not even funny, And Goku at SS 3 could easily do that thrice over.
"
Actually, i already knew all of that cuz i just watched all the episodes(thanx videosaiyan) and i think your taking all this way too seriously, its just a fake battle and everyone has has their own oppinion so chill
#16 Posted by King Saturn (224189 posts) - - Show Bio
Hedatary said:
"brainiac 5 said:
"speedlgt said:
"brainiac 5 said:
"sky goblin said:
"superman kills him in three seconds"
come on, goku's dragon fist could take supes out in 1 second
"
not if his reality is destroyed
all dbz fans underestimate superman

"
Thats very true, i always underestimate supes when it comes to goku, but silver age supes had allot of powers that modern age supes didnt, so its still a tough battle
"
Are you an idiot?! Thats not true at all. it's the other way around because we could never really find out the full powers of dbz characters wheres marvel or dc has there complete bio pat down.


No one knows the full extent of dbz and i managed to figure out allot of shit that no one knew about. Like the fact that Goku has telekineses and telepathy  powers that is extremely powerful, that could easily kiil without lifting a finger. I know that Frieza has this power similer to Jubali, where he could explode something with a thought.

I know for a fact that Gotenks at SS 1 could go around the world so many times it's not even funny, And Goku at SS 3 could easily do that thrice over.
"
The Problem is though that if Silver Age Superman doesnt hold back... he is basically Invincible ! You gotta remember Silver Age Superman was written to basically have Infinite Strength and Invunerability that was insane... I understand what ya saying bout Goku and his ability to blow up planets with ease and all... but the Pre Crisis Superman of the 80's was capable of doing feats that were simply outrageous even for Comics... Holding A Black Hole in you hand ? Using your Breath to blow a Solar System back into Place ? Towing an entire Planetary System with a Large Chain ? Now I aint saying that Superman would win here.. but Goku will be in for a treat in this fight
#17 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio

Oh and Ki energy powers thier very existence.

#18 Posted by King Saturn (224189 posts) - - Show Bio
Lantern Prime said:
"Oh and Ki energy powers thier very existence."
What do you mean here ? 
#19 Posted by Ego (2324 posts) - - Show Bio
speedlgt said:
"brainiac 5 said:
"sky goblin said:
"superman kills him in three seconds"
come on, goku's dragon fist could take supes out in 1 second
"
not if his reality is destroyed
all dbz fans underestimate superman

"

as with all superman fans underestimates dbz.

i think it's two sides of a coin.
#20 Posted by brainiac 5 (118 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"Hedatary said:
"brainiac 5 said:
"speedlgt said:
"brainiac 5 said:
"sky goblin said:
"superman kills him in three seconds"
come on, goku's dragon fist could take supes out in 1 second
"
not if his reality is destroyed
all dbz fans underestimate superman

"
Thats very true, i always underestimate supes when it comes to goku, but silver age supes had allot of powers that modern age supes didnt, so its still a tough battle
"
Are you an idiot?! Thats not true at all. it's the other way around because we could never really find out the full powers of dbz characters wheres marvel or dc has there complete bio pat down.


No one knows the full extent of dbz and i managed to figure out allot of shit that no one knew about. Like the fact that Goku has telekineses and telepathy  powers that is extremely powerful, that could easily kiil without lifting a finger. I know that Frieza has this power similer to Jubali, where he could explode something with a thought.

I know for a fact that Gotenks at SS 1 could go around the world so many times it's not even funny, And Goku at SS 3 could easily do that thrice over.
"
The Problem is though that if Silver Age Superman doesnt hold back... he is basically Invincible ! You gotta remember Silver Age Superman was written to basically have Infinite Strength and Invunerability that was insane... I understand what ya saying bout Goku and his ability to blow up planets with ease and all... but the Pre Crisis Superman of the 80's was capable of doing feats that were simply outrageous even for Comics... Holding A Black Hole in you hand ? Using your Breath to blow a Solar System back into Place ? Towing an entire Planetary System with a Large Chain ? Now I aint saying that Superman would win here.. but Goku will be in for a treat in this fight"
thats exactly why i used pre-crisis supes, the dudes a brute and him and goku would have an awsome one on one match
#21 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio

What im saying is the Ki energy is very thing about their abilities. Punches, Durability, and anything physically as well as energy wise.

#22 Posted by Hedatary (3768 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"Lantern Prime said:
"Oh and Ki energy powers thier very existence."
What do you mean here ? "
Meaning, it is there life energy.


And i know what you are saying but back in the 80's supes, it was a crap fest. You gotta realize that it was back in the 80's. How the hell do you hold up black hole? I mean, to blow up the entire universe with just a sneeze, you gotta be a god. It's completely flawed.
#23 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio

Finally this is one Sueprman vs Goku thread that doesn't get locked or doesn't get flammed up.

#24 Posted by Ego (2324 posts) - - Show Bio
Hedatary said:
"King Saturn said:
"Lantern Prime said:
"Oh and Ki energy powers thier very existence."
What do you mean here ? "
Meaning, it is there life energy.


And i know what you are saying but back in the 80's supes, it was a crap fest. You gotta realize that it was back in the 80's. How the hell do you hold up black hole? I mean, to blow up the entire universe with just a sneeze, you gotta be a god. It's completely flawed.
"

ah, but they say if broly turned ss2 he would blow up the entire dbz multiverse.
#25 Posted by brainiac 5 (118 posts) - - Show Bio
Hedatary said:
"King Saturn said:
"Lantern Prime said:
"Oh and Ki energy powers thier very existence."
What do you mean here ? "
Meaning, it is there life energy.


And i know what you are saying but back in the 80's supes, it was a crap fest. You gotta realize that it was back in the 80's. How the hell do you hold up black hole? I mean, to blow up the entire universe with just a sneeze, you gotta be a god. It's completely flawed.
"
i agree, it was a total crap fest. it was unrealistic. But it doesnt matter here, all were taking is his actual power(no mmatter how unrealistic) and puttings against goku's for an awsome battle with an imposible winner
#26 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio
Hedatary said:
"King Saturn said:
"Lantern Prime said:
"Oh and Ki energy powers thier very existence."
What do you mean here ? "
Meaning, it is there life energy.


And i know what you are saying but back in the 80's supes, it was a crap fest. You gotta realize that it was back in the 80's. How the hell do you hold up black hole? I mean, to blow up the entire universe with just a sneeze, you gotta be a god. It's completely flawed.
"

Thats one of the main reasons why they created a new one in the mid 80s

#27 Posted by Ego (2324 posts) - - Show Bio

ki energy is not just the power of life. it's the power of everything that balances the universe. It's THE energy off all energies. wheither if it's physical, mental, spiritual and magical of nature it's all the power that balances the universe.

#28 Posted by King Saturn (224189 posts) - - Show Bio
Hedatary said:
"King Saturn said:
"Lantern Prime said:
"Oh and Ki energy powers thier very existence."
What do you mean here ? "
Meaning, it is there life energy.


And i know what you are saying but back in the 80's supes, it was a crap fest. You gotta realize that it was back in the 80's. How the hell do you hold up black hole? I mean, to blow up the entire universe with just a sneeze, you gotta be a god. It's completely flawed.
"
Oh I know that Ki Energy is the Life Energy of the Z Warriors... just got Lantern Prime's post confused with it being a reply to mine... but on your other point. You are Correct about Silver Age Superman being flawed ... but that makes it even harder to know what exactly could he do ? 


#29 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio
Ego said:
"Hedatary said:
"King Saturn said:
"Lantern Prime said:
"Oh and Ki energy powers thier very existence."
What do you mean here ? "
Meaning, it is there life energy.


And i know what you are saying but back in the 80's supes, it was a crap fest. You gotta realize that it was back in the 80's. How the hell do you hold up black hole? I mean, to blow up the entire universe with just a sneeze, you gotta be a god. It's completely flawed.
"

ah, but they say if broly turned ss2 he would blow up the entire dbz multiverse."
Broly can only go SSJ and then Legendary Super Sayin(He increase in power as long as hes in this form.)
#30 Posted by Ego (2324 posts) - - Show Bio
Ego said:
"ki energy is not just the power of life. it's the power of everything that balances the universe. It's THE energy off all energies. wheither if it's physical, mental, spiritual and magical of nature it's all the power that balances the universe.
"

#31 Posted by Hedatary (3768 posts) - - Show Bio
Ego said:
"Hedatary said:
"King Saturn said:
"Lantern Prime said:
"Oh and Ki energy powers thier very existence."
What do you mean here ? "
Meaning, it is there life energy.


And i know what you are saying but back in the 80's supes, it was a crap fest. You gotta realize that it was back in the 80's. How the hell do you hold up black hole? I mean, to blow up the entire universe with just a sneeze, you gotta be a god. It's completely flawed.
"

ah, but they say if broly turned ss2 he would blow up the entire dbz multiverse."
I did not know that. That quite new to me. All i know was that he blew up galaxies during his adventure.
#32 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"Hedatary said:
"King Saturn said:
"Lantern Prime said:
"Oh and Ki energy powers thier very existence."
What do you mean here ? "
Meaning, it is there life energy.


And i know what you are saying but back in the 80's supes, it was a crap fest. You gotta realize that it was back in the 80's. How the hell do you hold up black hole? I mean, to blow up the entire universe with just a sneeze, you gotta be a god. It's completely flawed.
"
Oh I know that Ki Energy is the Life Energy of the Z Warriors... just got Lantern Prime's post confused with it being a reply to mine... but on your other point. You are Correct about Silver Age Superman being flawed ... but that makes it even harder to know what exactly could he do ? 


"

All im saying is that superman has no defense against that.

#33 Posted by Ego (2324 posts) - - Show Bio
Ego said:
"ki energy is not just the power of life. it's the power of everything that balances the universe. It's THE energy off all energies. wheither if it's physical, mental, spiritual and magical of nature it's all the power that balances the universe.
"

if ki or chi energy represents all the natuarl and un-natuarl powers of the universe that means who ever can control it can do almost anything they want to.

and that's why the creator of dbz created the power level rule:

if goku wanted to. he can mimic iceman's power, he can mimic jeans power, or even gambits and superman!

it's all about power levels when it comes to ki or chi powers.
#34 Posted by King Saturn (224189 posts) - - Show Bio
Lantern Prime said:
"King Saturn said:
"Hedatary said:
"King Saturn said:
"Lantern Prime said:
"Oh and Ki energy powers thier very existence."
What do you mean here ? "
Meaning, it is there life energy.


And i know what you are saying but back in the 80's supes, it was a crap fest. You gotta realize that it was back in the 80's. How the hell do you hold up black hole? I mean, to blow up the entire universe with just a sneeze, you gotta be a god. It's completely flawed.
"
Oh I know that Ki Energy is the Life Energy of the Z Warriors... just got Lantern Prime's post confused with it being a reply to mine... but on your other point. You are Correct about Silver Age Superman being flawed ... but that makes it even harder to know what exactly could he do ? 


"

All im saying is that superman has no defense against that.

"
You maybe right there...
#35 Posted by Wisppeons (3726 posts) - - Show Bio

This battle is  played out.

How about this Goku and Superman they are the same ......both dont like to kill but they will if they have to, both dont like villians hurting innocent people,  both are Incredibly strong and fast.

why do they have to fight? why cant they team up?

This is tearing me apart *faints*

#36 Edited by Ego (2324 posts) - - Show Bio
Ego said:
"Ego said:
"ki energy is not just the power of life. it's the power of everything that balances the universe. It's THE energy off all energies. wheither if it's physical, mental, spiritual and magical of nature it's all the power that balances the universe.
"

if ki or chi energy represents all the natuarl and un-natuarl powers of the universe that means who ever can control it can do almost anything they want to.

and that's why the creator of dbz created the power level rule:

if goku wanted to. he can mimic iceman's power, he can mimic jeans power, or even gambits and superman!

it's all about power levels when it comes to ki or chi powers.
"

yin yang
#37 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"Lantern Prime said:
"King Saturn said:
"Hedatary said:
"King Saturn said:
"Lantern Prime said:
"Oh and Ki energy powers thier very existence."
What do you mean here ? "
Meaning, it is there life energy.


And i know what you are saying but back in the 80's supes, it was a crap fest. You gotta realize that it was back in the 80's. How the hell do you hold up black hole? I mean, to blow up the entire universe with just a sneeze, you gotta be a god. It's completely flawed.
"
Oh I know that Ki Energy is the Life Energy of the Z Warriors... just got Lantern Prime's post confused with it being a reply to mine... but on your other point. You are Correct about Silver Age Superman being flawed ... but that makes it even harder to know what exactly could he do ? 


"

All im saying is that superman has no defense against that.

"
You maybe right there..."

The problem is getting people to think about instead of saying NO! YOU FANBOY! all time.
#38 Posted by MotorSteel (1757 posts) - - Show Bio
Hedatary said:
"King Saturn said:
"Lantern Prime said:
"Oh and Ki energy powers thier very existence."
What do you mean here ? "
Meaning, it is there life energy.


And i know what you are saying but back in the 80's supes, it was a crap fest. You gotta realize that it was back in the 80's. How the hell do you hold up black hole? I mean, to blow up the entire universe with just a sneeze, you gotta be a god. It's completely flawed.
"
As long as it is like that, Supes takes this! ADMIT IT!

It's a total curbstomp. 

SA Supes >>>>>>>>>>SSJ4 goku.
#39 Posted by MotorSteel (1757 posts) - - Show Bio
Ego said:
"Ego said:
"ki energy is not just the power of life. it's the power of everything that balances the universe. It's THE energy off all energies. wheither if it's physical, mental, spiritual and magical of nature it's all the power that balances the universe.
"

if ki or chi energy represents all the natuarl and un-natuarl powers of the universe that means who ever can control it can do almost anything they want to.

and that's why the creator of dbz created the power level rule:

if goku wanted to. he can mimic iceman's power, he can mimic jeans power, or even gambits and superman!

it's all about power levels when it comes to ki or chi powers.
"
but it doesn't. It means life energy  or energy radiating from everything living.

IT has nothing to do with power levels. It's the basics of ki. Ki = life energy and is natural. It is able to mimic not super powers. And Superman's powers , strength and speed, are because of his ..um heritage?
#40 Posted by vegeta (4902 posts) - - Show Bio



dead
#41 Edited by Hedatary (3768 posts) - - Show Bio

The fact of the matter is, no matter how much Goku can lift, he can lift even higher by inducing the energy into his hands, thus making him be able to go against supes in an equal fist fight. Which is the reason why they power up, they get stronger physically and energy wise.

#42 Posted by brainiac 1.0 (4150 posts) - - Show Bio
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ss4 goku remember
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lol i like that
#46 Posted by brainiac 1.0 (4150 posts) - - Show Bio
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#47 Edited by MotorSteel (1757 posts) - - Show Bio
Hedatary said:
"The fact of the matter is, no matter how much Goku can lift, he can lift even higher by inducing the energy into his hands, thus making him be able to go against supes in an equal fist fight. Which is the reason why they power up, they get stronger physically and energy wise.
"
Goku wouldn't be able to catch up to him. SA Superman has gone so fast he's gone back in time and travels light years in seconds. Literally. 

He pulled a chain of planets with ease. There were about 6 or 7 planets. Goku couldn't do that. He doesn't and couldn't possibly have the strength.


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More like how it would go down.
#48 Posted by brainiac 1.0 (4150 posts) - - Show Bio
MotorSteel said:
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More like how it would go down."
Correct.
#49 Posted by MotorSteel (1757 posts) - - Show Bio
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Also correct. 
#50 Posted by brainiac 1.0 (4150 posts) - - Show Bio
MotorSteel said:
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Also correct. "

This has been done so many times and they still try to debate about it and superman was the winner.