ssj4 Goke & Vegeta with GL ring VS gauntlet

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#1 Edited by eatmore_payless (2164 posts) - 4 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

RULES:

morals off

bloodlust on

both vegeta and goku gets fully healed after each round

their rings are unlimited in energy

And if needed they can do the fusion dance

fight takes place on earth

win via KO or death

ROUND 1:

Kyle Rayner

Gladiator full confidence

ROUND 2

Sentry full control (not void.)

Odin Force thor

ROUND 3

CAptain marvel

black adam

ROUND 4

Silver Surfer blood lusted

Captain Atom blood lusted

ROUND 5

HP Doomsday

Pre new 52 superman 1 hour sundipped

ROUND 6:

Darkseid

Thanos

ROUND 7:

Superboy prime

Superman prime

#2 Posted by xeon1cs (1471 posts) - 4 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

Void kills them both in Round 2.

#3 Posted by eatmore_payless (2164 posts) - 4 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

@xeon1cs: i just changed the OP

#4 Posted by xeon1cs (1471 posts) - 4 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

Still probably Round 2. If not, Captain Atom solos at Round 4.

#5 Posted by uberhikari (908 posts) - 4 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

This clearly stops at round 2. Sentry might solo. First, the problem is that Goku and Vegeta, while having sufficient will power to wield the GL rings, aren't experienced enough to use them in very imaginable ways. Second, the people they're fighting can easily defeat a GL. Sentry is pretty much unkillable, has molecular manipulation that caused Molecule Man trouble and has TP. Thor, while not is skilled with the Odin Force as Odin, is nonetheless more powerful. He's easily a galaxy buster, has time manipulation, etc.

#6 Posted by NeonGameWave (5111 posts) - 4 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

Stops at Round 2.

#7 Posted by ComicStooge (5305 posts) - 4 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave said:

Stops at Round 2.

Hell, he might even stop at 1.

Hasn't Kyle Rayner held back the energy of the sun?

#8 Posted by NeonGameWave (5111 posts) - 4 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

@ComicStooge: Good point but Goku and Vegeta have GL rings of their own, and while at full power are faster as well as more destructive.

#9 Edited by ComicStooge (5305 posts) - 4 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge: Good point but Goku and Vegeta have GL rings of their own, and while at full power are faster as well as more destructive.

The ring has a function that allows it to hit anything that's faster then the user.

Kyle has created constructs that dwarf planets, he's destroyed Oa with a single beam, he's shielded entire cities from nukes, he's blocked planet busting explosions.

Goku and Vegeta have no idea how to use their rings and even if they did they don't have anywhere near the experience, intelligence and creativity Kyle has.

They don't get passed round 1.

#10 Posted by Resonance (86 posts) - 4 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

@ComicStooge said:

The ring has a function that allows it to hit anything that's faster then the user.

Kyle has created constructs that dwarf planets, he's destroyed Oa with a single beam, he's shielded entire cities from nukes, he's blocked planet busting explosions.

Goku and Vegeta have no idea how to use their rings and even if they did they don't have anywhere near the experience, intelligence and creativity Kyle has.

They don't get passed round 1.

This.

#11 Posted by NeonGameWave (5111 posts) - 4 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

@ComicStooge: How is Kyle going to deal with their crazy speed? Gladiator will eventually be taken out and Goku as well as Vegeta will tag team against Kyle who has no knowledge of their abilities.

#12 Posted by ComicStooge (5305 posts) - 4 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge: How is Kyle going to deal with their crazy speed? Gladiator will eventually be taken out and Goku as well as Vegeta will tag team against Kyle who has no knowledge of their abilities.

By the fact the ring has an auto target function that hits anything they can't react to.

#13 Posted by NeonGameWave (5111 posts) - 4 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

@ComicStooge: Goku and Vegeta use instant transmission to avoid that issue and their durability is pretty impressive.

#14 Posted by ComicStooge (5305 posts) - 4 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

Gladiator should do plenty of damage too, the guy punches planets to dust, can fly 100 times the speed of light and can fly through stars.

#15 Posted by ComicStooge (5305 posts) - 4 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge: Goku and Vegeta use instant transmission to avoid that issue and their durability is pretty impressive.

Instant Transmission requires an energy signature to lock onto, the only energy signature around them is Kyle, so they'll be teleporting right in front of him, making them easier targets.

#16 Posted by NeonGameWave (5111 posts) - 4 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

@ComicStooge: Gladiator is a tough individual no doubt about that but his power is tied to his level of confidence so feeling intimidated could really hinder his performance.

#17 Posted by ComicStooge (5305 posts) - 4 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge: Gladiator is a tough individual no doubt about that but his power is tied to his level of confidence so feeling intimidated could really hinder his performance.

He rarely, if ever loses his confidence and I think the 'full confidence' rule means it isn't going to waver, perhaps the OP could clear that up for us.

#18 Posted by NeonGameWave (5111 posts) - 4 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

@ComicStooge: Kyle will also be an easier target to fight h2h.

#19 Edited by NeonGameWave (5111 posts) - 4 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

@ComicStooge: Good point but Gladiator could weaken his abilities through the imbalance of confident levels, he would land in some massive blows but if Vegeta manages to prove a point with his pride and also manages to slightly intimidate Gladiator, he could lose some power granting them an advantage. Also when they fuse together they will be more of a threat.

#20 Posted by dondave (7567 posts) - 4 months, 21 days ago - Show Bio

Maybe stops at round 1, definitely Round 2

#21 Posted by ComicStooge (5305 posts) - 4 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge: Kyle will also be an easier target to fight h2h.

Kyle can make suits of armor out of his ring constructs, as well weapons:

#22 Posted by NeonGameWave (5111 posts) - 4 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge: Kyle will also be an easier target to fight h2h.

Kyle can make suits of armor out of his ring constructs, as well weapons:

Goku and Vegeta have competed with Frieza one of the most durable DBZ characters and have survived planet busting attacks.

#23 Posted by ComicStooge (5305 posts) - 4 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge: Kyle will also be an easier target to fight h2h.

Kyle can make suits of armor out of his ring constructs, as well weapons:

Goku and Vegeta have competed with Frieza one of the most durable DBZ characters and have survived planet busting attacks.

Except Oa is a MASSIVE planet.

And nowhere in that scan did I see them surviving anything, just Freiza talking about how he could destroy a SMALL planet in one blast.

#24 Edited by NeonGameWave (5111 posts) - 4 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge: Kyle will also be an easier target to fight h2h.

Kyle can make suits of armor out of his ring constructs, as well weapons:

Goku and Vegeta have competed with Frieza one of the most durable DBZ characters and have survived planet busting attacks.

Except Oa is a MASSIVE planet.

And nowhere in that scan did I see them surviving anything, just Freiza talking about how he could destroy a SMALL planet in one blast.

The point was that Goku and Vegeta have both been able to compete with Frieza and tank his planet busting hits, Frieza could blow up a planet. I don`t see how Kyle would be able to compete with their crazy speed.

#25 Edited by ComicStooge (5305 posts) - 4 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge: Kyle will also be an easier target to fight h2h.

Kyle can make suits of armor out of his ring constructs, as well weapons:

Goku and Vegeta have competed with Frieza one of the most durable DBZ characters and have survived planet busting attacks.

Except Oa is a MASSIVE planet.

And nowhere in that scan did I see them surviving anything, just Freiza talking about how he could destroy a SMALL planet in one blast.

The point was that Goku and Vegeta both have been able to compete with Frieza and tank his planet busting hits, Frieza could blow up a planet. I don`t how Kyle would be able to compete with their crazy speed.

I've explained to you SEVERAL TIMES how he could deal with their speed: WITH THE RING'S AUTO-TARGET SYSTEM, IT SHOOTS ANYTHING THE WEARER CAN'T REACT TO - NAMELY GOKU AND VEGETA.

#26 Posted by NeonGameWave (5111 posts) - 4 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge: Kyle will also be an easier target to fight h2h.

Kyle can make suits of armor out of his ring constructs, as well weapons:

Goku and Vegeta have competed with Frieza one of the most durable DBZ characters and have survived planet busting attacks.

Except Oa is a MASSIVE planet.

And nowhere in that scan did I see them surviving anything, just Freiza talking about how he could destroy a SMALL planet in one blast.

The point was that Goku and Vegeta both have been able to compete with Frieza and tank his planet busting hits, Frieza could blow up a planet. I don`t how Kyle would be able to compete with their crazy speed.

I've explained to you SEVERAL TIMES how he could deal with their speed: WITH THE RING'S AUTO-TARGET SYSTEM, IT SHOOTS ANYTHING THE WEARER CAN'T REACT TO - NAMELY GOKU AND VEGETA.

I understand your point but how will that be a problem for two durable powerhouses such as Goku and Vegeta? They will eventually get the better of Kyle.

#27 Posted by ComicStooge (5305 posts) - 4 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge: Kyle will also be an easier target to fight h2h.

Kyle can make suits of armor out of his ring constructs, as well weapons:

Goku and Vegeta have competed with Frieza one of the most durable DBZ characters and have survived planet busting attacks.

Except Oa is a MASSIVE planet.

And nowhere in that scan did I see them surviving anything, just Freiza talking about how he could destroy a SMALL planet in one blast.

The point was that Goku and Vegeta both have been able to compete with Frieza and tank his planet busting hits, Frieza could blow up a planet. I don`t how Kyle would be able to compete with their crazy speed.

I've explained to you SEVERAL TIMES how he could deal with their speed: WITH THE RING'S AUTO-TARGET SYSTEM, IT SHOOTS ANYTHING THE WEARER CAN'T REACT TO - NAMELY GOKU AND VEGETA.

I understand your point but how will that be a problem for two durable powerhouses such as Goku and Vegeta? They will eventually get the better of Kyle.

By the fact that they'll be getting hit/caught by his constructs and then beaten? They can't beat Kyle, he's too powerful, his defense is too great, he has far too much versatility.

#28 Edited by NeonGameWave (5111 posts) - 4 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge: Kyle will also be an easier target to fight h2h.

Kyle can make suits of armor out of his ring constructs, as well weapons:

Goku and Vegeta have competed with Frieza one of the most durable DBZ characters and have survived planet busting attacks.

Except Oa is a MASSIVE planet.

And nowhere in that scan did I see them surviving anything, just Freiza talking about how he could destroy a SMALL planet in one blast.

The point was that Goku and Vegeta both have been able to compete with Frieza and tank his planet busting hits, Frieza could blow up a planet. I don`t how Kyle would be able to compete with their crazy speed.

I've explained to you SEVERAL TIMES how he could deal with their speed: WITH THE RING'S AUTO-TARGET SYSTEM, IT SHOOTS ANYTHING THE WEARER CAN'T REACT TO - NAMELY GOKU AND VEGETA.

I understand your point but how will that be a problem for two durable powerhouses such as Goku and Vegeta? They will eventually get the better of Kyle.

By the fact that they'll be getting hit/caught by his constructs and then beaten? They can't beat Kyle, he's too powerful, his defense is too great, he has far too much versatility.

What will his constructs do? They are powerful indeed but Goku and Vegeta have taken on the likes of Kid Buu, Broly and so on so forth in which they were able to endure through a lot of physical punishment. Its mere force in the form of light energy. Kyle`s defense would only be the real issue but I`m sure Gogeta would be able to get through that defense.

#29 Posted by ComicStooge (5305 posts) - 4 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge: Kyle will also be an easier target to fight h2h.

Kyle can make suits of armor out of his ring constructs, as well weapons:

Goku and Vegeta have competed with Frieza one of the most durable DBZ characters and have survived planet busting attacks.

Except Oa is a MASSIVE planet.

And nowhere in that scan did I see them surviving anything, just Freiza talking about how he could destroy a SMALL planet in one blast.

The point was that Goku and Vegeta both have been able to compete with Frieza and tank his planet busting hits, Frieza could blow up a planet. I don`t how Kyle would be able to compete with their crazy speed.

I've explained to you SEVERAL TIMES how he could deal with their speed: WITH THE RING'S AUTO-TARGET SYSTEM, IT SHOOTS ANYTHING THE WEARER CAN'T REACT TO - NAMELY GOKU AND VEGETA.

I understand your point but how will that be a problem for two durable powerhouses such as Goku and Vegeta? They will eventually get the better of Kyle.

By the fact that they'll be getting hit/caught by his constructs and then beaten? They can't beat Kyle, he's too powerful, his defense is too great, he has far too much versatility.

What will his constructs do? They are powerful indeed but Goku and Vegeta have taken on the likes of Kid Buu, Broly and so on so forth in which they were able to endure through a lot of physical punishment. Its mere force in the form of light energy. Kyle`s defense would only be the real issue but I`m sure Gogeta would be able to get through that defense.

Trap them, crush them, destroy them from the inside out, blow them up, cut them, basically whatever the user wants them to.

There fusion/beams take time to charge, something they won't be able to do with Gladiator beating down on them and Kyle blasting/trapping them with his ring.

#30 Posted by NeonGameWave (5111 posts) - 4 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge: Kyle will also be an easier target to fight h2h.

Kyle can make suits of armor out of his ring constructs, as well weapons:

Goku and Vegeta have competed with Frieza one of the most durable DBZ characters and have survived planet busting attacks.

Except Oa is a MASSIVE planet.

And nowhere in that scan did I see them surviving anything, just Freiza talking about how he could destroy a SMALL planet in one blast.

The point was that Goku and Vegeta both have been able to compete with Frieza and tank his planet busting hits, Frieza could blow up a planet. I don`t how Kyle would be able to compete with their crazy speed.

I've explained to you SEVERAL TIMES how he could deal with their speed: WITH THE RING'S AUTO-TARGET SYSTEM, IT SHOOTS ANYTHING THE WEARER CAN'T REACT TO - NAMELY GOKU AND VEGETA.

I understand your point but how will that be a problem for two durable powerhouses such as Goku and Vegeta? They will eventually get the better of Kyle.

By the fact that they'll be getting hit/caught by his constructs and then beaten? They can't beat Kyle, he's too powerful, his defense is too great, he has far too much versatility.

What will his constructs do? They are powerful indeed but Goku and Vegeta have taken on the likes of Kid Buu, Broly and so on so forth in which they were able to endure through a lot of physical punishment. Its mere force in the form of light energy. Kyle`s defense would only be the real issue but I`m sure Gogeta would be able to get through that defense.

Trap them, crush them, destroy them from the inside out, blow them up, cut them, basically whatever the user wants them to.

There fusion/beams take time to charge, something they won't be able to do with Gladiator beating down on them and Kyle blasting/trapping them with his ring.

Gogeto intimidates Gladiator and takes him out, also Kyle tries to crush them but Gogeto teleports behind him delivering massive blows in which he inflicts severe injuries. The blast delivered to Janemba did not take that long to charge and Gogeto should do fine when processing the blasts. Also I doubt Gogeto was using his maximum potential and although they are not experienced in regards to the use of the Green Lantern rings is does not mean that they won`t be able to exploit its functionality, and their power rings are unlimited in energy while Kyle`s is not.

#31 Posted by ComicStooge (5305 posts) - 4 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge: Kyle will also be an easier target to fight h2h.

Kyle can make suits of armor out of his ring constructs, as well weapons:

Goku and Vegeta have competed with Frieza one of the most durable DBZ characters and have survived planet busting attacks.

Except Oa is a MASSIVE planet.

And nowhere in that scan did I see them surviving anything, just Freiza talking about how he could destroy a SMALL planet in one blast.

The point was that Goku and Vegeta both have been able to compete with Frieza and tank his planet busting hits, Frieza could blow up a planet. I don`t how Kyle would be able to compete with their crazy speed.

I've explained to you SEVERAL TIMES how he could deal with their speed: WITH THE RING'S AUTO-TARGET SYSTEM, IT SHOOTS ANYTHING THE WEARER CAN'T REACT TO - NAMELY GOKU AND VEGETA.

I understand your point but how will that be a problem for two durable powerhouses such as Goku and Vegeta? They will eventually get the better of Kyle.

By the fact that they'll be getting hit/caught by his constructs and then beaten? They can't beat Kyle, he's too powerful, his defense is too great, he has far too much versatility.

What will his constructs do? They are powerful indeed but Goku and Vegeta have taken on the likes of Kid Buu, Broly and so on so forth in which they were able to endure through a lot of physical punishment. Its mere force in the form of light energy. Kyle`s defense would only be the real issue but I`m sure Gogeta would be able to get through that defense.

Trap them, crush them, destroy them from the inside out, blow them up, cut them, basically whatever the user wants them to.

There fusion/beams take time to charge, something they won't be able to do with Gladiator beating down on them and Kyle blasting/trapping them with his ring.

Gogeto intimidates Gladiator and takes him out, also Kyle tries to crush them but Gogeto teleports behind him delivering massive blows in which he inflicts severe injuries. The blast delivered to Janemba did not take that long to charge and Gogeto should do fine when processing the blasts. Also I doubt Gogeto was using his maximum potential and although they are not experienced in regards to the use of the Green Lantern rings is does not mean that they won`t be able to exploit its functionality, and their power rings are unlimited in energy while Kyle`s is not.

You act as if Gladiator is some timid social awkward teenager who can be put down by an insult or something, the guy's a proud and noble warrior, he's faced some of the most dangerous beings in the Marvel U and not lost confidence, he won't here. Judging by how fast Gladiator (Reed Richards explicitly stated he was going 100 times the speed of light) is and how fast Kyle can make constructs, I'd say he wouldn't have the opportunity to charge and if they did, Kyle could tank it via shields (he could just as easily protect Kallark).They won't be able to use them, they have no clue how and if they did, it would mean nothing to Kyle, who's among the best GL the corps has ever produced. They have no way to teleport behind Gladiator, because doesn't there need to be an energy source to teleport to? Anyway, the unlimited energy thing will only come into effect if the fight lasts longer then 24 hours, which it won't.

#32 Posted by xeon1cs (1471 posts) - 4 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

@ComicStooge: I thought Kyle made it so his ring was always linked to the central battery before he stopped being Ion? So his ring would never run out of juice. Or does it still have to be recharged?

#33 Posted by ComicStooge (5305 posts) - 4 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

@xeon1cs said:

@ComicStooge: I thought Kyle made it so his ring was always linked to the central battery before he stopped being Ion? So his ring would never run out of juice. Or does it still have to be recharged?

I was under the assumption it still needed charging, but I'll defiantly look that up.

#34 Posted by NeonGameWave (5111 posts) - 4 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

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@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

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@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge: Kyle will also be an easier target to fight h2h.

Kyle can make suits of armor out of his ring constructs, as well weapons:

Goku and Vegeta have competed with Frieza one of the most durable DBZ characters and have survived planet busting attacks.

Except Oa is a MASSIVE planet.

And nowhere in that scan did I see them surviving anything, just Freiza talking about how he could destroy a SMALL planet in one blast.

The point was that Goku and Vegeta both have been able to compete with Frieza and tank his planet busting hits, Frieza could blow up a planet. I don`t how Kyle would be able to compete with their crazy speed.

I've explained to you SEVERAL TIMES how he could deal with their speed: WITH THE RING'S AUTO-TARGET SYSTEM, IT SHOOTS ANYTHING THE WEARER CAN'T REACT TO - NAMELY GOKU AND VEGETA.

I understand your point but how will that be a problem for two durable powerhouses such as Goku and Vegeta? They will eventually get the better of Kyle.

By the fact that they'll be getting hit/caught by his constructs and then beaten? They can't beat Kyle, he's too powerful, his defense is too great, he has far too much versatility.

What will his constructs do? They are powerful indeed but Goku and Vegeta have taken on the likes of Kid Buu, Broly and so on so forth in which they were able to endure through a lot of physical punishment. Its mere force in the form of light energy. Kyle`s defense would only be the real issue but I`m sure Gogeta would be able to get through that defense.

Trap them, crush them, destroy them from the inside out, blow them up, cut them, basically whatever the user wants them to.

There fusion/beams take time to charge, something they won't be able to do with Gladiator beating down on them and Kyle blasting/trapping them with his ring.

Gogeto intimidates Gladiator and takes him out, also Kyle tries to crush them but Gogeto teleports behind him delivering massive blows in which he inflicts severe injuries. The blast delivered to Janemba did not take that long to charge and Gogeto should do fine when processing the blasts. Also I doubt Gogeto was using his maximum potential and although they are not experienced in regards to the use of the Green Lantern rings is does not mean that they won`t be able to exploit its functionality, and their power rings are unlimited in energy while Kyle`s is not.

You act as if Gladiator is some timid social awkward teenager who can be put down by an insult or something, the guy's a proud and noble warrior, he's faced some of the most dangerous beings in the Marvel U and not lost confidence, he won't here. Judging by how fast Gladiator (Reed Richards explicitly stated he was going 100 times the speed of light) is and how fast Kyle can make constructs, I'd say he wouldn't have the opportunity to charge and if they did, Kyle could tank it via shields (he could just as easily protect Kallark).They won't be able to use them, they have no clue how and if they did, it would mean nothing to Kyle, who's among the best GL the corps has ever produced. They have no way to teleport behind Gladiator, because doesn't there need to be an energy source to teleport to? Anyway, the unlimited energy thing will only come into effect if the fight lasts longer then 24 hours, which it won't.

It won't be easy but eventually Gladiator will begin to lose confidence and Vegeta can be very intimidating as well as prideful so Gladiator isn't the only one. Gogeta will be fast enough to tag Gladiator and if someone as powerful as Omega Shenron or Jenemba could not leave as much as a scratch then I don't see how Kyle or Gladiator would be a problem. Also I doubt Gogeta wou¥d be finished in less than 24 hours and also if they do find out how their rings function, they will be able to make use of them as they can be creative with the constructs they make. Kyle is more experienced and has more understanding of his ring but it is not unlimited in energy as it needs to be charged. Without his ring he is not really durable and once Gogeta manages to break through his defenses they can inflict massive and severe blows in which they could knock him out, lesser beings have been a challenge to him before.

#35 Posted by AngryHulks (1839 posts) - 4 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave said:

It won't be easy but eventually Gladiator will begin to lose confidence and Vegeta can be very intimidating as well as prideful so Gladiator isn't the only one. Gogeta will be fast enough to tag Gladiator and if someone as powerful as Omega Shenron or Jenemba could not leave as much as a scratch then I don't see how Kyle or Gladiator would be a problem. Also I doubt Gogeta wou¥d be finished in less than 24 hours and also if they do find out how their rings function, they will be able to make use of them as they can be creative with the constructs they make. Kyle is more experienced and has more understanding of his ring but it is not unlimited in energy as it needs to be charged. Without his ring he is not really durable and once Gogeta manages to break through his defenses they can inflict massive and severe blows in which they could knock him out, lesser beings have been a challenge to him before.

Gladiator won't lose confidence with time, he only lose confidence if his opponent laugh off every of his attack (like when FF4 and Captain America make Reed looks "invulnerable" and laugh off Glad's attack). He have fought Tyrant and even though Tyrant is not bothered by Gladiator's attacks, this have no impact on Gladiator's confidence. And Gladiator can definitely injures someone with Gogeta's durability, so it's unlikely that they'll threaten his confidence.

#36 Posted by ComicStooge (5305 posts) - 4 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave said:

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@ComicStooge: Kyle will also be an easier target to fight h2h.

Kyle can make suits of armor out of his ring constructs, as well weapons:

Goku and Vegeta have competed with Frieza one of the most durable DBZ characters and have survived planet busting attacks.

Except Oa is a MASSIVE planet.

And nowhere in that scan did I see them surviving anything, just Freiza talking about how he could destroy a SMALL planet in one blast.

The point was that Goku and Vegeta both have been able to compete with Frieza and tank his planet busting hits, Frieza could blow up a planet. I don`t how Kyle would be able to compete with their crazy speed.

I've explained to you SEVERAL TIMES how he could deal with their speed: WITH THE RING'S AUTO-TARGET SYSTEM, IT SHOOTS ANYTHING THE WEARER CAN'T REACT TO - NAMELY GOKU AND VEGETA.

I understand your point but how will that be a problem for two durable powerhouses such as Goku and Vegeta? They will eventually get the better of Kyle.

By the fact that they'll be getting hit/caught by his constructs and then beaten? They can't beat Kyle, he's too powerful, his defense is too great, he has far too much versatility.

What will his constructs do? They are powerful indeed but Goku and Vegeta have taken on the likes of Kid Buu, Broly and so on so forth in which they were able to endure through a lot of physical punishment. Its mere force in the form of light energy. Kyle`s defense would only be the real issue but I`m sure Gogeta would be able to get through that defense.

Trap them, crush them, destroy them from the inside out, blow them up, cut them, basically whatever the user wants them to.

There fusion/beams take time to charge, something they won't be able to do with Gladiator beating down on them and Kyle blasting/trapping them with his ring.

Gogeto intimidates Gladiator and takes him out, also Kyle tries to crush them but Gogeto teleports behind him delivering massive blows in which he inflicts severe injuries. The blast delivered to Janemba did not take that long to charge and Gogeto should do fine when processing the blasts. Also I doubt Gogeto was using his maximum potential and although they are not experienced in regards to the use of the Green Lantern rings is does not mean that they won`t be able to exploit its functionality, and their power rings are unlimited in energy while Kyle`s is not.

You act as if Gladiator is some timid social awkward teenager who can be put down by an insult or something, the guy's a proud and noble warrior, he's faced some of the most dangerous beings in the Marvel U and not lost confidence, he won't here. Judging by how fast Gladiator (Reed Richards explicitly stated he was going 100 times the speed of light) is and how fast Kyle can make constructs, I'd say he wouldn't have the opportunity to charge and if they did, Kyle could tank it via shields (he could just as easily protect Kallark).They won't be able to use them, they have no clue how and if they did, it would mean nothing to Kyle, who's among the best GL the corps has ever produced. They have no way to teleport behind Gladiator, because doesn't there need to be an energy source to teleport to? Anyway, the unlimited energy thing will only come into effect if the fight lasts longer then 24 hours, which it won't.

It won't be easy but eventually Gladiator will begin to lose confidence and Vegeta can be very intimidating as well as prideful so Gladiator isn't the only one. Gogeta will be fast enough to tag Gladiator and if someone as powerful as Omega Shenron or Jenemba could not leave as much as a scratch then I don't see how Kyle or Gladiator would be a problem. Also I doubt Gogeta wou¥d be finished in less than 24 hours and also if they do find out how their rings function, they will be able to make use of them as they can be creative with the constructs they make. Kyle is more experienced and has more understanding of his ring but it is not unlimited in energy as it needs to be charged. Without his ring he is not really durable and once Gogeta manages to break through his defenses they can inflict massive and severe blows in which they could knock him out, lesser beings have been a challenge to him before.

Green Arrow, who's an incredibly imaginative person with decent intelligence and great willpower was only able to make a SINGLE arrow that was laughed off my Sinestro. If they can make constructs it won't bother Gladiator or Kyle much at all. The ring's charge lasts for a very long time. He still has autoshields would should protect him, and also emergency backup power, in case that fails.

Lesser beings have challenged him because he, like most heroes, holds back against weaker enemies, this is something he won't be doing against Goku/Vegeta, because of how powerful they are.

#37 Posted by NeonGameWave (5111 posts) - 4 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

@AngryHulks: Omega Shenron and Janemba barely made a scratch on Gogeta, I doubt Gladiator would be any diffferent and considering Gogeta's personality he would probably laugh at Gladiator's attempts, and if Gogeta manages to be effective with his power ring I'm pretty sure Gogeta will become more intimidating.

#38 Posted by ComicStooge (5305 posts) - 4 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave said:

@AngryHulks: Omega Shenron and Janemba barely made a scratch on Gogeta, I doubt Gladiator would be any diffferent and considering Gogeta's personality he would probably laugh at Gladiator's attempts, and if Gogeta manages to be effective with his power ring I'm pretty sure Gogeta will become more intimidating.

It wouldn't make him more intimidating if you have someone watching your back who can use it better then Gogeta could ever hope to, having only just received it.

#39 Posted by NeonGameWave (5111 posts) - 4 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

@ComicStooge: It is intimidating if they cannot make a scrath on a bloodlusted and no morals Gogeta, and it becomes more intimidating when Kyle's ring begins to run out. It becomes more intimidating when Gogeta manages to break through Kyle's defenses and laugh at most of their attempts.

#40 Edited by NeonGameWave (5111 posts) - 4 months, 20 days ago - Show Bio

@ComicStooge: Its the combining of both Vegeta and Goku`s willpower as they become Gogeta, and also both can be very imaginative, its not just solely based on intelligence its also being creative, imaginative and etc. Both of their minds will become one as both of their imaginations would become one. Gladiator won`t hold back but neither will a bloodlusted Gogeta who has no morals. Now if Gogeta could remain pretty calm in defeating both Omega Shenron and Janemba effortlessly, imagine what a bloodlusted Gogeta at full potential who has no morals or who does not feel like his actions will bear any consequences could do, also he is definitely way above a casual planet buster. Kyle`s ring will last a good while but not forever and once Gogeta lands in some heavy blows, he will potentially be knocked out from the sheer force and raw power. Not trying to use ABC logic but these are facts.

Goku and Vegeta>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Cell, Kid Buu and Frieza by the end of Z

Goku and Vegeta during GT although not actually canon is considered due to the circumstances as well as conditions of the OP, Goku and Vegeta realistically, virtually, technically, basically, logically and truthfully are>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Kid Buu, Cell, Broly, and Frieza

As Gogeta they are>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Omega Shenron, Janemba, Broly, Frieza, Kid Buu and Cell

And that`s them not using their full potential as they were not bloodlusted with no morals when fighting Janemba and Omega Shenron

Vegeta alone exhibits great willpower or self control as his endurance is also great but not as much as Goku I would say, so both are combined in one as they become Gogeta.

Now adding Green Lantern rings regardless of lack of experience in which they could still use them effectively due to meeting the requirements, that alone gives them more great power.

#41 Posted by ComicStooge (5305 posts) - 4 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge: It is intimidating if they cannot make a scrath on a bloodlusted and no morals Gogeta, and it becomes more intimidating when Kyle's ring begins to run out. It becomes more intimidating when Gogeta manages to break through Kyle's defenses and laugh at most of their attempts.

Fighting Omega Shenron and Jenemba isn't the same as fighting Kyle Rayner and Gladiator. They wouldn't 'laugh at most their attempts' Kyle alone could probably beat both Goku and Vegteta, he's taken down the Justice League by himself before.

#42 Posted by NeonGameWave (5111 posts) - 4 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@ComicStooge: Janemba is a top class reality warper, and Omega Shenron is above casual busters or even beyond solar sytem-galaxy busters possibly. The point is Gogeta was unharmed by either of the two as he effortlesstly one shotted them but that's him not using his full strength. It will be different and quite the challenge but Gogeta will pull through.

#43 Posted by xeon1cs (1471 posts) - 4 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge: Janemba is a top class reality warper, and Omega Shenron is above casual busters or even beyond solar sytem-galaxy busters possibly. The point is Gogeta was unharmed by either of the two as he effortlesstly one shotted them but that's him not using his full strength. It will be different and quite the challenge but Gogeta will pull through.

Top Class Reality Warper compared to who?

#44 Edited by NeonGameWave (5111 posts) - 4 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@xeon1cs: He is powerful in general and has the power to remake the universe in his image, although not on the same exact level as The Mask, Mxy, and etc is still pretty impressive.

#45 Posted by CODYSF (1833 posts) - 4 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@ComicStooge said:

@NeonGameWave said:

@ComicStooge: Good point but Goku and Vegeta have GL rings of their own, and while at full power are faster as well as more destructive.

The ring has a function that allows it to hit anything that's faster then the user.

Kyle has created constructs that dwarf planets, he's destroyed Oa with a single beam, he's shielded entire cities from nukes, he's blocked planet busting explosions.

Goku and Vegeta have no idea how to use their rings and even if they did they don't have anywhere near the experience, intelligence and creativity Kyle has.

They don't get passed round 1.

#46 Posted by CODYSF (1833 posts) - 4 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

The two Monkeys will get Spank by Kyle it stop there

#47 Posted by NeonGameWave (5111 posts) - 4 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

Not happening, they stop at two.

#48 Posted by ComicStooge (5305 posts) - 4 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave said:

Not happening, they stop at two.

Myself and others have already proven how Kyle solos round 1, dude.

#49 Edited by xeon1cs (1471 posts) - 4 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

@NeonGameWave: He didn't remake the universe though. He only dicked around with Hell and the Kai realm or whatever and opened it so they could go to Earth. Some pretty low-tier shit.

Franklin Richards has a universe in his closet that he plays around in.

#50 Posted by The_Lunact_And_Manic (2913 posts) - 4 months, 19 days ago - Show Bio

I don't see them clearing round 1...

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