#1 Posted by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio
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Clash of the DBZ Titans.

Who wins?
#2 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku....no contest.

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#3 Posted by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku

#4 Posted by nathandan1222 (1807 posts) - - Show Bio

batman

#5 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
nathandan1222 said:
"batman"
GKYS.
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#6 Posted by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio

both of them looks gay in red fur. 

#7 Posted by nathandan1222 (1807 posts) - - Show Bio
oldmagic said:
"both of them looks gay in red fur. "


only mic jagger can pull that off
#8 Posted by Glorious (1590 posts) - - Show Bio

uh its a tie

#9 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio

..............

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#10 Edited by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio

 mic jagger is butt ugly. looks like hes on crack. 

#11 Posted by nathandan1222 (1807 posts) - - Show Bio
oldmagic said:
" mic jagger is butt ugly. looks like hes on crack. "

i know it was a joke
#12 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio

SSJ4 Vegeta can't die so he wins.

#13 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
Lantern Prime said:
"SSJ4 Vegeta can't die so he wins."
Don't be stupid.
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#14 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio

How can kill some one like SSJ4 Vegeta when the guy is so ruthless and doesn't hold back? Goku holds back all time and is soft.

#15 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
Lantern Prime said:
"How can kill some one like SSJ4 Vegeta when the guy is so ruthless and doesn't hold back? Goku holds back all time and is soft."
1.Because he's not a real SSJ4
2.Because he's weaker than Goku
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#16 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio

Goku is so soft he wouldn't allow Krillin to kill him when he was down.

#17 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
Lantern Prime said:
"Goku is so soft he wouldn't allow Krillin to kill him when he was down."
Goku kills if he has to kill and Vegeta isn't beating him at SSJ4.
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#18 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio

U do realize that he never killed Frieza only gave him the final blow. 

#19 Posted by Glorious (1590 posts) - - Show Bio

its a tie... Vegetas forms were stronger than gokus in gt, Vegetas SSJ2 tied with Goku's SSJ3 and at SSJ4 they were even, and with almost all their fights they tie... so this would be no different

#20 Posted by King Saturn (224033 posts) - - Show Bio
Goku should win here easy
#21 Posted by King Saturn (224033 posts) - - Show Bio
oldmagic said:
" mic jagger is butt ugly. looks like hes on crack. "
This statement amuses me greatly

lol
#22 Posted by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"Goku should win here easy
"

it wont be easy
#23 Posted by King Saturn (224033 posts) - - Show Bio
Swagga Boy said:
"King Saturn said:
"Goku should win here easy
"

it wont be easy"
I dont know... it might.

lol
#24 Posted by Light (9257 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"Goku should win here easy
"
why? what proof do you have that goku is stronger than vegeta? And when has goku ever beaten Vegeta easily?
#25 Posted by King Saturn (224033 posts) - - Show Bio
Light said:
"King Saturn said:
"Goku should win here easy
"
why? what proof do you have that goku is stronger than vegeta? And when has goku ever beaten Vegeta easily?"
Goku has pretty much always been stronger than Vegeta from like the Frieza Saga on... there are sites you can check DBZ Power Levels and see these stats... and dont take my intial statement so literally anyways...
#26 Posted by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio

you can only follow the power lvls up to the frieza saga.

#27 Posted by King Saturn (224033 posts) - - Show Bio
Swagga Boy said:
"you can only follow the power lvls up to the frieza saga."
No Sir. Do you remember when Raditz first came to Earth ? He had a scouter and he clocked both Goku and Piccalo's power levels... I think he did Gohan too
#28 Posted by Light (9257 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"Light said:
"King Saturn said:
"Goku should win here easy
"
why? what proof do you have that goku is stronger than vegeta? And when has goku ever beaten Vegeta easily?"
Goku has pretty much always been stronger than Vegeta from like the Frieza Saga on... there are sites you can check DBZ Power Levels and see these stats... and dont take my intial statement so literally anyways..."
thats not true... goku has achievied the power that vegeta craves quicker but vegeta always catches up to karkarot. and when he is about to surpass him, Karkarot just gets to another level... another thing, if you look at android and sell saga, goku was the weakest saiyan out of all of them... and as far as SSJ4 goes, the only ay for there fusion to work is if they were at the same power level, which they were and Goku and vegeta have enough fighting spirit so its a tie
#29 Posted by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio

Yea.. lol  from Raditz saga to Frieza saga  is the only time you can uses power lvls to determine strength.

#30 Posted by Light (9257 posts) - - Show Bio
Swagga Boy said:
"Yea.. lol  from Raditz saga to Frieza saga  is the only time you can uses power lvls to determine strength."
yeah because they stopped writing power levels because everyone stopped using scouters... anything after that is speculation when it comes to numbers
#31 Edited by King Saturn (224033 posts) - - Show Bio
Light said:
"King Saturn said:
"Light said:
"King Saturn said:
"Goku should win here easy
"
why? what proof do you have that goku is stronger than vegeta? And when has goku ever beaten Vegeta easily?"
Goku has pretty much always been stronger than Vegeta from like the Frieza Saga on... there are sites you can check DBZ Power Levels and see these stats... and dont take my intial statement so literally anyways..."
thats not true... goku has achievied the power that vegeta craves quicker but vegeta always catches up to karkarot. and when he is about to surpass him, Karkarot just gets to another level... another thing, if you look at android and sell saga, goku was the weakest saiyan out of all of them... and as far as SSJ4 goes, the only ay for there fusion to work is if they were at the same power level, which they were and Goku and vegeta have enough fighting spirit so its a tie"
My friend have you ever actually read up on DBZ Power Levels ? Sure Vegeta catches up in power levels to Goku but he never actually equals Goku's power level totally. Vegeta hasnt done that yet... Goku always stays a step ahead of Vegeta in power levels... and this fight is not a tie. And you cant prove it is either
#32 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio

Swagga Boy, thats the easy way out!

#33 Posted by Agent_Lost (49 posts) - - Show Bio
Swagga Boy said:
"
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Clash of the DBZ Titans.

Who wins?"
damn, i can't tell how is how, Goku is at the left and vegita on the right.

oh and Goku win
#34 Posted by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio
Lantern Prime said:
"Swagga Boy, thats the easy way out!"

I'm sorry what?
#35 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
Light said:
"King Saturn said:
"Light said:
"King Saturn said:
"Goku should win here easy
"
why? what proof do you have that goku is stronger than vegeta? And when has goku ever beaten Vegeta easily?"
Goku has pretty much always been stronger than Vegeta from like the Frieza Saga on... there are sites you can check DBZ Power Levels and see these stats... and dont take my intial statement so literally anyways..."
thats not true... goku has achievied the power that vegeta craves quicker but vegeta always catches up to karkarot. and when he is about to surpass him, Karkarot just gets to another level... another thing, if you look at android and sell saga, goku was the weakest saiyan out of all of them... and as far as SSJ4 goes, the only ay for there fusion to work is if they were at the same power level, which they were and Goku and vegeta have enough fighting spirit so its a tie"
Vegeta has never caught up.In fact he couldn't even reach SSJ3 or 4 on his own.If it wasn't for Bulma Vegeta would have never reached SSJ4.
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#36 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"Light said:
"King Saturn said:
"Light said:
"King Saturn said:
"Goku should win here easy
"
why? what proof do you have that goku is stronger than vegeta? And when has goku ever beaten Vegeta easily?"
Goku has pretty much always been stronger than Vegeta from like the Frieza Saga on... there are sites you can check DBZ Power Levels and see these stats... and dont take my intial statement so literally anyways..."
thats not true... goku has achievied the power that vegeta craves quicker but vegeta always catches up to karkarot. and when he is about to surpass him, Karkarot just gets to another level... another thing, if you look at android and sell saga, goku was the weakest saiyan out of all of them... and as far as SSJ4 goes, the only ay for there fusion to work is if they were at the same power level, which they were and Goku and vegeta have enough fighting spirit so its a tie"
My friend have you ever actually read up on DBZ Power Levels ? Sure Vegeta catches up in power levels to Goku but he never actually equals Goku's power level totally. Vegeta hasnt done that yet... Goku always stays a step ahead of Vegeta in power levels... and this fight is not a tie. And you cant prove it is either
"

Have u ever seen Vegeta's Final Flash? If u have then u can tell that his raw power is lower than Goku's.
#37 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio

Light, Frieza's Power level in his second form was over a million and he was able to shake the whole planet  with his power.  So anything beyond that is beyond that is more a whole lot more.

#38 Posted by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio
Lantern Prime said:
"King Saturn said:
"Light said:
"King Saturn said:
"Light said:
"King Saturn said:
"Goku should win here easy
"
why? what proof do you have that goku is stronger than vegeta? And when has goku ever beaten Vegeta easily?"
Goku has pretty much always been stronger than Vegeta from like the Frieza Saga on... there are sites you can check DBZ Power Levels and see these stats... and dont take my intial statement so literally anyways..."
thats not true... goku has achievied the power that vegeta craves quicker but vegeta always catches up to karkarot. and when he is about to surpass him, Karkarot just gets to another level... another thing, if you look at android and sell saga, goku was the weakest saiyan out of all of them... and as far as SSJ4 goes, the only ay for there fusion to work is if they were at the same power level, which they were and Goku and vegeta have enough fighting spirit so its a tie"
My friend have you ever actually read up on DBZ Power Levels ? Sure Vegeta catches up in power levels to Goku but he never actually equals Goku's power level totally. Vegeta hasnt done that yet... Goku always stays a step ahead of Vegeta in power levels... and this fight is not a tie. And you cant prove it is either
"

Have u ever seen Vegeta's Final Flash? If u have then u can tell that his raw power is lower than Goku's.
"

How does that help?  Both the Final flash and the Kamahamaha had the same effect on cell in the same exact way.
#39 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio
Swagga Boy said:
"Lantern Prime said:
"Swagga Boy, thats the easy way out!"

I'm sorry what?"
Never mind.
#40 Posted by King Saturn (224033 posts) - - Show Bio
I havent seen anything yet that says Vegeta was ever actually stronger than Goku from Frieza Saga on...
#41 Posted by Light (9257 posts) - - Show Bio
King Saturn said:
"Light said:
"King Saturn said:
"Light said:
"King Saturn said:
"Goku should win here easy
"
why? what proof do you have that goku is stronger than vegeta? And when has goku ever beaten Vegeta easily?"
Goku has pretty much always been stronger than Vegeta from like the Frieza Saga on... there are sites you can check DBZ Power Levels and see these stats... and dont take my intial statement so literally anyways..."
thats not true... goku has achievied the power that vegeta craves quicker but vegeta always catches up to karkarot. and when he is about to surpass him, Karkarot just gets to another level... another thing, if you look at android and sell saga, goku was the weakest saiyan out of all of them... and as far as SSJ4 goes, the only ay for there fusion to work is if they were at the same power level, which they were and Goku and vegeta have enough fighting spirit so its a tie"
My friend have you ever actually read up on DBZ Power Levels ? Sure Vegeta catches up in power levels to Goku but he never actually equals Goku's power level totally. Vegeta hasnt done that yet... Goku always stays a step ahead of Vegeta in power levels... and this fight is not a tie. And you cant prove it is either
"
cell saga is a perfect example of what I said Vegeta became an ascended saiyan, which is more powerful than goku's super saiyan form, goku never even reached Ascended Saiyan... also vegeta could have killed cell with his final flash but he held back because he would have destroyed the earth
Last Power level recorded was like 1,000,000 and that was super saiyan goku... there were no confirmed power levels after that...

In Majin Saga, Vegeta and Goku fought to a standstill... Goku had to go super saiyan three to match kid buu... but vegeta took him on in super saiyan 2 while goku built up power for his Spirit Bomb

About Vegeta never catching up... cross apply my first argument and for the rest extend my argument about the fusion working
#42 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio

Final Flash is the most potentially powerful attack in DBZ outside of the Spirit Bomb. 

#43 Posted by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio

where are those from because they seem kinda...off

#44 Posted by Lantern Prime (13044 posts) - - Show Bio

Why did u delete them Vance?

#45 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
Swagga Boy said:
"

where are those from because they seem kinda...off

"
Freeza - 1,700,000 (Full Power)
Piccolo - 1,850,000 (Full Power)

Freeza - 2,300,000 (Form 3)
Gohan - 2,000,000 (Enraged)

Freeza - 3,500,000 (True Form)
Vegeta - 2,500,000

Son Goku - 3,300,000

Freeza - 6,000,000 (50%)
Son Goku [Kaioken x20] - 6,600,000

Son Goku [Kamehameha] - 5,500,000


Goku in Ginyu's Body:
Ginyu in Goku's Body: 23,000 
Jeise: 50,000 
Vegeta: 60,000 
Krillin: 16,500 
Gohan: 17,000
Nail vs. Frieza:
Nail: 42,000 
Frieza: 530,000
Vegeta vs. Frieza (1st Time):
Vegeta: 120,000 
Freeza (Form 1): 530,000 
Freeza (Form 2): 1,000,000
Piccolo vs. Frieza:
Piccolo (merged with Nail): 800,000 
Frieza (Form 2): 1,000,000 
Frieza (Form 3): 2,500,000
Vegeta vs. Frieza (2nd Time):
Vegeta: 300,000 
Freeza (Form 4 - 33%): 4,000,000
Goku vs. Frieza:
Frieza (Form 4 - 33%): 4,000,000 
Frieza (Form 4 - 50%): 6,000,000 
Frieza (Form 4 - 70%): 8,400,000 
Frieza (form 4 - 100%): 12,000,000 
Goku - Base Level: 300,000 
Goku- Kaioken x10: 3,000,000 
Goku - Kaioken x20: 6,000,000 
SSJ Goku: 15,000,000

egeta fighting Freeza (first meeting) 

Vegeta: 300,000 
Freeza (form 1): 530,000 
Freeza in first transformation (form 2): 1,000,000 
Piccolo fighting Freeza 

Piccolo (merged with Nail): 900,000 
Freeza in first transformation (form 2): 1,000,000 
Freeza in second transformation (form 3): 1,500,000 


Vegeta fighting Freeza (2nd Time) 

Vegeta: 1,000,000 

Freeza in third transformation (form 4), using 33% power: 2,000,000 
Goku fighting Freeza 

Freeza in third transformation (form 4), using 33% power: 2,000,000 
Freeza in third transformation (form 4), using 50% power: 2,500,000 
Freeza in third transformation (form 4), full force: 3,000,000 
Goku: 1,000,000 
Goku Kaioken x10: 1,300,000 
Goku Kaioken x20: 1,700,000 
Super Saiya-jin Gokou: 4,000,000 
Trunks and Goku fighting King Cold and Freeza Bot 

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#46 Posted by King Saturn (224033 posts) - - Show Bio
Light said:
"King Saturn said:
"Light said:
"King Saturn said:
"Light said:
"King Saturn said:
"Goku should win here easy
"
why? what proof do you have that goku is stronger than vegeta? And when has goku ever beaten Vegeta easily?"
Goku has pretty much always been stronger than Vegeta from like the Frieza Saga on... there are sites you can check DBZ Power Levels and see these stats... and dont take my intial statement so literally anyways..."
thats not true... goku has achievied the power that vegeta craves quicker but vegeta always catches up to karkarot. and when he is about to surpass him, Karkarot just gets to another level... another thing, if you look at android and sell saga, goku was the weakest saiyan out of all of them... and as far as SSJ4 goes, the only ay for there fusion to work is if they were at the same power level, which they were and Goku and vegeta have enough fighting spirit so its a tie"
My friend have you ever actually read up on DBZ Power Levels ? Sure Vegeta catches up in power levels to Goku but he never actually equals Goku's power level totally. Vegeta hasnt done that yet... Goku always stays a step ahead of Vegeta in power levels... and this fight is not a tie. And you cant prove it is either
"
cell saga is a perfect example of what I said Vegeta became an ascended saiyan, which is more powerful than goku's super saiyan form, goku never even reached Ascended Saiyan... also vegeta could have killed cell with his final flash but he held back because he would have destroyed the earth
Last Power level recorded was like 1,000,000 and that was super saiyan goku... there were no confirmed power levels after that...

In Majin Saga, Vegeta and Goku fought to a standstill... Goku had to go super saiyan three to match kid buu... but vegeta took him on in super saiyan 2 while goku built up power for his Spirit Bomb

About Vegeta never catching up... cross apply my first argument and for the rest extend my argument about the fusion working
"
Thats all great dude... but this doesnt mean that Vegeta will be able to stalemate Goku at the SSJ4 power level... from what I have seen so far ... I dont see Vegeta ever really being stronger than Goku dude...
#47 Posted by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio

ok there we go up Until goku goes SS thats when power levels stop.

#48 Posted by Vance Astro (91196 posts) - - Show Bio
Swagga Boy said:
"ok there we go up Until goku goes SS thats when power levels stop."
What?
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#49 Posted by Light (9257 posts) - - Show Bio

@KS: lol well thats your opinion

#50 Posted by Swagga Boy (3769 posts) - - Show Bio
Vance Astro said:
"Swagga Boy said:
"ok there we go up Until goku goes SS thats when power levels stop."
What?"
The second set of power lvls were almost correct.

Once Goku went SS and the frieza saga ended thats when they stopped clocking powerlevels.