#1 Edited by OreoAssassin (6290 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider Team

-Spiderman 616

-Spiderman 2099

-Scarlet Spider

-Agent Venom

-Superior Spiderman

-Ultimate Spiderman (Miles)

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Every Street Level Fighter In Pre 52 DC Earth

Morals Off: Standard Equipment:No Prep:Anything Goes

LOCATION: NEW YORK/GOTHAM MIXED CITY

Spiders are Bloodlusted.

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#2 Posted by Strider92 (16837 posts) - - Show Bio

The Spiders are not really street level. So they should take a majority.

#3 Posted by JwwProd (10589 posts) - - Show Bio

They stop at Midnighter.

#4 Posted by 14NC3 (1794 posts) - - Show Bio

@oreoassassin:

I think that there might be too many street levellers for the spiders to handle. You should add in ben riley and Ultimate Peter.

#5 Posted by OreoAssassin (6290 posts) - - Show Bio

@strider92: Yeah there above Street Level, I thought that EVERY Dc street level (Deathstroke, batman, nightwing, Cassandra Cain, the whole bat family, all bats villains and lots lots more) could be a very hard fight

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#6 Edited by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20445 posts) - - Show Bio

@jwwprod said:

They stop at Midnighter.

If he's above Spider-Man, he's DEFINITELY not street-level.

#7 Posted by spartanpgh (88 posts) - - Show Bio

I agree. Venom is a borderline team buster as is, and Flash Gordon (Agent Venom) is a borderline street leveler (due to military training, and football conditioning) without the suit.

that being said, Green Arrow, Robin, Nightwing, Batman, Huntress, Bane, Batgirl, Deadshot, Slade, Karate Kid, Shiva, Animal Man ect would give the Spider-Team HUGE problems.

Street Levelers take 7/10 IMO

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#9 Posted by OreoAssassin (6290 posts) - - Show Bio

@14nc3: depending on amount of people who side with street levels I'll add Ben and Ultimate if it seems like a stomp

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#10 Posted by spartanpgh (88 posts) - - Show Bio

even with those 2, the street levelers take it.

#11 Posted by JwwProd (10589 posts) - - Show Bio

@jwwprod said:

They stop at Midnighter.

If he's above Spider-Man, he's DEFINITELY not street-level.

Well I do consider Midnighter a street level character though he is more powerful then any street level character but still a street level character.

#12 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20445 posts) - - Show Bio

that being said, Green Arrow, Robin, Nightwing, Batman, Huntress, Bane, Batgirl, Deadshot, Slade, Karate Kid, Shiva, Animal Man ect would give the Spider-Team HUGE problems.

Street Levelers take 7/10 IMO

I doubt Karate Kid is street-level. Also, arrows shouldn't be a problem for the Spider-Team. Even without Spider-Sense Kaine was able to catch an arrow coming from behind him.

I see Kaine and Superior Spider-Man wrecking a majority of the DC Street-Level team. SpOck is cold, and calculating, and his arrogance, while a faulty, also makes him take down his foes with harder hits Peter doesn't unleash as often. Kaine on the other hand, has looser morals and beats his enemies pretty much to a pulp. He'll beat them up every way minus slaying them. Simply put the Spider-Team is too fast and strong.

  • Versus a team of very elite Assassin's Guild members (including Harvester and Flower).

#13 Posted by RetconCrisis (4540 posts) - - Show Bio

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: He's actually a street leveler. It's absurd but it's true...

If Luther Strode is a street leveler, then, well, Midnighter is a super-street leveler.

#14 Edited by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20445 posts) - - Show Bio

@jwwprod said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

@jwwprod said:

They stop at Midnighter.

If he's above Spider-Man, he's DEFINITELY not street-level.

Well I do consider Midnighter a street level character though he is more powerful then any street level character but still a street level character.

Eh. Spider-Man is already considered at least slightly above street-level. If Midnighter is capable of solo-ing this entire Spider-Team, he isn't street-level.

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: He's actually a street leveler. It's absurd but it's true...

If Luther Strode is a street leveler, then, well, Midnighter is a super-street leveler.

Man I find that really hard to believe. That's kind of crazy for him to be a street-level.

#15 Edited by OreoAssassin (6290 posts) - - Show Bio

Nice scans and argument. Can see your a huge Kaine fan:)

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek:

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#16 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20445 posts) - - Show Bio
#17 Posted by JudgeNeptune (224 posts) - - Show Bio

KK Solos

#18 Edited by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20445 posts) - - Show Bio

@judgeneptune: Bro Karate Kid fought Superman and held his own. That isn't street-level...at least not by my definition.

#19 Edited by 14NC3 (1794 posts) - - Show Bio

KK Solos

If Karate Kid can solo all of the Spider's who are all slightly above street level he is definitely not a street leveller

#20 Posted by OreoAssassin (6290 posts) - - Show Bio

Anyone have list of every DC street level fighter? There's a lot. Every batman villain, all the archers, the bat family, ect

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#21 Edited by Shawnbaby (10869 posts) - - Show Bio

The amount of people on The DC team is actually a disadvantage to them...they can't all engage the Spiders at the same time and they'll be getting in each others way. Meanwhile each of the Spiders can easily one-shot almost anyone that does make it through the chaos to get close to them.

#22 Edited by 14NC3 (1794 posts) - - Show Bio

  1. Batman
  2. Nightwing
  3. Tim Drake
  4. Cass Cain
  5. Batwoman
  6. Green Arrow
  7. Huntress
  8. Catwoman
  9. Arsenal/red arrow
  10. Deadshot
  11. Deathstroke
  12. Bane
  13. Ras Al Ghul
  14. Question
  15. Wildcat
  16. Plunder
  17. steph brown
  18. black canary
  19. lady blackhawk
  20. lady Shiva
  21. Connor Hawke
  22. Azrael
  23. Rose Wilson
  24. Doctor mid-night
  25. katana
  26. grifter
  27. vigilante
#23 Posted by Strider92 (16837 posts) - - Show Bio

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: He's actually a street leveler. It's absurd but it's true...

If Luther Strode is a street leveler, then, well, Midnighter is a super-street leveler.

Midnighter is not street level....

#24 Posted by Chaos Prime (10857 posts) - - Show Bio

In this encounter imo its going to be the likes of Deadshot, Deathstroke & the like with deadly ranged weapons that win the day for DC imo.

H2H DC get cut to ribbons imo.

#25 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20445 posts) - - Show Bio

The amount of people on The DC team is actually a disadvantage to them...they can't all engage the Spiders at the same time and they'll be getting in each others way. Meanwhile each of the Spiders can easily one-shot almost anyone that does make it through the chaos to get close to them.

This. Imagine all that people. They would be scrambling all over each other. The Spider-Team wouldn't have to worry about friendly fire nearly as much as the DC team has to. That being said, they could have long-range characters like Green Arrow and Deadshot try and snipe them, and send in volleys of street-levelers rush in, wave after wave.

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#27 Posted by Shawnbaby (10869 posts) - - Show Bio

@shawnbaby said:

The amount of people on The DC team is actually a disadvantage to them...they can't all engage the Spiders at the same time and they'll be getting in each others way. Meanwhile each of the Spiders can easily one-shot almost anyone that does make it through the chaos to get close to them.

This. Imagine all that people. They would be scrambling all over each other. The Spider-Team wouldn't have to worry about friendly fire nearly as much as the DC team has to. That being said, they could have long-range characters like Green Arrow and Deadshot try and snipe them, and send in volleys of street-levelers rush in, wave after wave.

With morals off there's nothing stopping the Spiders from using Human Shields.

#28 Posted by Shawnbaby (10869 posts) - - Show Bio

@retconcrisis said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek: He's actually a street leveler. It's absurd but it's true...

If Luther Strode is a street leveler, then, well, Midnighter is a super-street leveler.

Midnighter is not street level....

Also, it's Pre-52 DC. Midnighter wouldn't be here regardless.

#29 Posted by spartanpgh (88 posts) - - Show Bio

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

@shawnbaby said:

The amount of people on The DC team is actually a disadvantage to them...they can't all engage the Spiders at the same time and they'll be getting in each others way. Meanwhile each of the Spiders can easily one-shot almost anyone that does make it through the chaos to get close to them.

This. Imagine all that people. They would be scrambling all over each other. The Spider-Team wouldn't have to worry about friendly fire nearly as much as the DC team has to. That being said, they could have long-range characters like Green Arrow and Deadshot try and snipe them, and send in volleys of street-levelers rush in, wave after wave.

With morals off there's nothing stopping the Spiders from using Human Shields.

Because thats going to stop Deathstroke/Deadshot/Bane right?

#30 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20445 posts) - - Show Bio

@shawnbaby said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

@shawnbaby said:

The amount of people on The DC team is actually a disadvantage to them...they can't all engage the Spiders at the same time and they'll be getting in each others way. Meanwhile each of the Spiders can easily one-shot almost anyone that does make it through the chaos to get close to them.

This. Imagine all that people. They would be scrambling all over each other. The Spider-Team wouldn't have to worry about friendly fire nearly as much as the DC team has to. That being said, they could have long-range characters like Green Arrow and Deadshot try and snipe them, and send in volleys of street-levelers rush in, wave after wave.

With morals off there's nothing stopping the Spiders from using Human Shields.

Because thats going to stop Deathstroke/Deadshot/Bane right?

That's a good thing if they don't stop. They'll constantly pick up heroes and Deathstroke, Deadshot, and Bane would just kill off their own teammates.

Like so.

#31 Edited by Shawnbaby (10869 posts) - - Show Bio

@spartanpgh said:

@shawnbaby said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

@shawnbaby said:

The amount of people on The DC team is actually a disadvantage to them...they can't all engage the Spiders at the same time and they'll be getting in each others way. Meanwhile each of the Spiders can easily one-shot almost anyone that does make it through the chaos to get close to them.

This. Imagine all that people. They would be scrambling all over each other. The Spider-Team wouldn't have to worry about friendly fire nearly as much as the DC team has to. That being said, they could have long-range characters like Green Arrow and Deadshot try and snipe them, and send in volleys of street-levelers rush in, wave after wave.

With morals off there's nothing stopping the Spiders from using Human Shields.

Because thats going to stop Deathstroke/Deadshot/Bane right?

I'm not saying it will stop them from shooting. I'm saying that the Spider-Men will use the others to stop the projectiles. And Deadshot I can totally understand, Deathstroke is debatable...but why would you put Bane in with the Long Range folk?

#32 Edited by Shawnbaby (10869 posts) - - Show Bio

@14nc3 said:

  1. Batman
  2. Nightwing
  3. Tim Drake
  4. Cass Cain
  5. Batwoman
  6. Green Arrow
  7. Huntress
  8. Catwoman
  9. Arsenal/red arrow
  10. Deadshot
  11. Deathstroke
  12. Bane
  13. Ras Al Ghul
  14. Question
  15. Wildcat
  16. Plunder
  17. steph brown
  18. black canary
  19. lady blackhawk
  20. lady Shiva
  21. Connor Hawke
  22. Azrael
  23. Rose Wilson
  24. Doctor mid-night
  25. katana
  26. grifter
  27. vigilante

Grifter isn't Pre-52 DC.

#33 Posted by sync1 (2990 posts) - - Show Bio

@spartanpgh: Animal man is not street leveled.

I think DC's got this.

#34 Edited by OreoAssassin (6290 posts) - - Show Bio

@sync1: how so? (Not disagreeing just want opinion lol)

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#35 Posted by spartanpgh (88 posts) - - Show Bio

@spartanpgh said:

@shawnbaby said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

@shawnbaby said:

The amount of people on The DC team is actually a disadvantage to them...they can't all engage the Spiders at the same time and they'll be getting in each others way. Meanwhile each of the Spiders can easily one-shot almost anyone that does make it through the chaos to get close to them.

This. Imagine all that people. They would be scrambling all over each other. The Spider-Team wouldn't have to worry about friendly fire nearly as much as the DC team has to. That being said, they could have long-range characters like Green Arrow and Deadshot try and snipe them, and send in volleys of street-levelers rush in, wave after wave.

With morals off there's nothing stopping the Spiders from using Human Shields.

Because thats going to stop Deathstroke/Deadshot/Bane right?

I'm not saying it will stop them from shooting. I'm saying that the Spider-Men will use the others to stop the projectiles. And Deadshot I can totally understand, Deathstroke is debatable...but why would you put Bane in with the Long Range folk?

not saying they're all long range, I'm saying that they would easily plow through a human shield to hit their target. Not to mention Slade and Bane have superhuman stats. Azrael wont hesitate to kill civilians, and can probably put down a Spiderman by himself given the right situation. Slade is a certified team buster in his own right by the way.

#36 Posted by Shawnbaby (10869 posts) - - Show Bio

@shawnbaby said:

@spartanpgh said:

@shawnbaby said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

@shawnbaby said:

The amount of people on The DC team is actually a disadvantage to them...they can't all engage the Spiders at the same time and they'll be getting in each others way. Meanwhile each of the Spiders can easily one-shot almost anyone that does make it through the chaos to get close to them.

This. Imagine all that people. They would be scrambling all over each other. The Spider-Team wouldn't have to worry about friendly fire nearly as much as the DC team has to. That being said, they could have long-range characters like Green Arrow and Deadshot try and snipe them, and send in volleys of street-levelers rush in, wave after wave.

With morals off there's nothing stopping the Spiders from using Human Shields.

Because thats going to stop Deathstroke/Deadshot/Bane right?

I'm not saying it will stop them from shooting. I'm saying that the Spider-Men will use the others to stop the projectiles. And Deadshot I can totally understand, Deathstroke is debatable...but why would you put Bane in with the Long Range folk?

not saying they're all long range, I'm saying that they would easily plow through a human shield to hit their target. Not to mention Slade and Bane have superhuman stats. Azrael wont hesitate to kill civilians, and can probably put down a Spiderman by himself given the right situation. Slade is a certified team buster in his own right by the way.

Pre-52 Slade was only slightly enhanced, And Bane Pre-52 was a 3 tonner at best...All the Spider-Men here just dwarf them entirely stat wise.

#37 Posted by spartanpgh (88 posts) - - Show Bio

and being "slightly" enhanced Slade solo'ed the Teen Titans.

#38 Edited by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20445 posts) - - Show Bio

and being "slightly" enhanced Slade solo'ed the Teen Titans.

Anyone in the Spider-Team could probably do the same.

#39 Edited by Shawnbaby (10869 posts) - - Show Bio

and being "slightly" enhanced Slade solo'ed the Teen Titans.

If the Spider Team had morals on...te DC Team would be in much better shape..as it is...The Spider-Men can simply one-shot most of the DC Team....Deathstroke included.

#40 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20445 posts) - - Show Bio

@spartanpgh said:

and being "slightly" enhanced Slade solo'ed the Teen Titans.

If the Spider Team had morals on...te DC Team would be in much better shape..as it is...The Spider-Men can simply one-shot most of the DC Team....Deathstroke included.

Kaine's stingers could stab right through Slade and end him.

#41 Edited by spartanpgh (88 posts) - - Show Bio

@spartanpgh said:

and being "slightly" enhanced Slade solo'ed the Teen Titans.

Anyone in the Spider-Team could probably do the same.

none of them is soloing Beast Boy, Cyborg, Raven, and Starfire.

#42 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20445 posts) - - Show Bio

@spartanpgh said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

@spartanpgh said:

and being "slightly" enhanced Slade solo'ed the Teen Titans.

Anyone in the Spider-Team could probably do the same.

none of them is soloing Beast Boy, Cyborg, Raven, and Starfire.

Yes they are. They would speed-blitz all of them. If Deathstroke can do it, any of the Spider-Men, who have drastically superior stats, can do it as well.

#43 Posted by laflux (17548 posts) - - Show Bio

@spartanpgh said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

@spartanpgh said:

and being "slightly" enhanced Slade solo'ed the Teen Titans.

Anyone in the Spider-Team could probably do the same.

none of them is soloing Beast Boy, Cyborg, Raven, and Starfire.

Yes they are. They would speed-blitz all of them. If Deathstroke can do it, any of the Spider-Men, who have drastically superior stats, can do it as well.

The thing is Deathstroke shouldn't have really.

A Serious Starfire, Beast Boy or Raven would make short work of Slade, or Spider-Man for that matter.

#44 Edited by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20445 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

@spartanpgh said:

@yourneighborhoodcomicgeek said:

@spartanpgh said:

and being "slightly" enhanced Slade solo'ed the Teen Titans.

Anyone in the Spider-Team could probably do the same.

none of them is soloing Beast Boy, Cyborg, Raven, and Starfire.

Yes they are. They would speed-blitz all of them. If Deathstroke can do it, any of the Spider-Men, who have drastically superior stats, can do it as well.

The thing is Deathstroke shouldn't have really.

A Serious Starfire, Beast Boy or Raven would make short work of Slade, or Spider-Man for that matter.

The thing is Kaine has cloak, so they wouldn't even see him before they get speed blitz.

#45 Posted by spartanpgh (88 posts) - - Show Bio

where is Kaine included in this fight?

#46 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20445 posts) - - Show Bio

where is Kaine included in this fight?

Scarlet Spider. Since there is no specifications, it is current version, who is Kaine.

#47 Posted by MaximumGeyser5 (584 posts) - - Show Bio

Street Levelers theirs so many of them

#48 Edited by spartanpgh (88 posts) - - Show Bio

oh ok, my bad. I havent kept up with Scarlet Spider, the last one I knew was Ben Reilly lol. That being said, no way are 6 Spider-men, including Kaine, beating a team of 30+ DC street levelers, with a group that includes the Bat-family, Deathstroke and Bane. I've seen them beat 30+ random thugs before, but most of these dudes are high level threats who have beat dudes with Spider-man stats on several occasions. If you put a set roster against them, sure, but there are simply to many

Huntress

Wildcat

Catwomen

Green Arrow

Green Arrow

Blue Bettle

Robin

Nightwing

Question

Speedy

Arsenal

Bane

Raza Ghul

Plunder

Murmur

Batgirl

Captain Cold

Heat Wave

Captain Boomerang I

Cheshire

Ragdoll I & II

Deadshot

Scandal

Catman

Talia

Mister Terrible

Deathstroke

Batman

Red Hood

and plenty more

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#50 Posted by YourNeighborhoodComicGeek (20445 posts) - - Show Bio

oh ok, my bad. I havent kept up with Scarlet Spider, the last one I knew was Ben Reilly lol. That being said, no way are 5 Spider-men, including Kaine, beating a team of 30+ DC street levelers, with a group that includes the Bat-family, Deathstroke and Bane. I've seen them beat 30+ random thugs before, but most of these dudes are high level threats who have beat dudes with Spider-man stats on several occasions. If you put a set roster against them, sure, but there are simply to many

Huntress

Wildcat

Catwomen

Green Arrow

Green Arrow

Blue Bettle

Robin

Nightwing

Question

Speedy

Arsenal

Bane

Raza Ghul

Plunder

Murmur

Batgirl

Captain Cold

Heat Wave

Captain Boomerang I

Cheshire

Ragdoll I & II

Deadshot

Scandal

Catman

Talia

Mister Terrible

Deathstroke

Batman

Red Hood

and plenty more

Actually every DC street leveler is well over a hundred characters. There's so many. EVERY single street level character? Yeah. 5 Spider-Men ain't winning this. I agree on that. However, I'm debating on how they would pretty much wreck through every single street-level. They'll probably lose to fatigue if anything else.