@Shawnbaby said:He stopped wearing it true, but I don't think he just tossed it out. But he's got 24 hours to go to Stark and get another one if he needs to. And it doesn't matter who built it.The Insider Suit would be of very limited use against Spider-Man. Spider-Sense trumps it. But if you want to go that Route...Spidey Brings out the Iron Spider Armour.The Insider suit can speedblitz Spidey before he reacts. There is also still the matter of JLA robots and a gauntlet that would allow Bats to teleport Spidey to Pluto if he wanted to. Also, the Iron Spidey armor I believe is no longer in Spidey's possession (I think he got rid of it), and besides, that wasn't even built by him.
Spiderman w/ a days prep vs Batman w/ 1hr prep
@jameshebrew: No he doesn't use the appropriate gadget for every occasion read the current court of owls saga he got owned by Talon who he had knowledge of and had prepped for yet was still caught off guard and barely escaped with his life if not for PIS some would think other wise but I think it was. Also when doing battles in the forum you use his average showing and batman has fought many opponents stronger then spider man with tons more prep time and didn't use the suit why would he for this one. Plus people forget just how smart Peter Parker is since most writers don't focus on that it tends to get forgotten. Also it's safe to assume since no one says stomp which it won't be means they give spider man the majority of victories so if they fough ten times under the same conditions batman loses four and spidey wins six. Also the insider suit wouldn't be his first option it would be his last if he had fought spidey before hand and lost he would then come too the second fight with the insider suit ready not there first battle.
@TheBatman586 said:
@Deranged Midget said:Most of those gadgets are sitting around in the Batcave, all Bruce has to do is go grab them. Also, he's used the Insider suit for several issues, and he's used the boomtube gauntlet and drones for two issues. The reason why he doesn't use them on a regular basis is because of PIS: his stories would get really boring, really quickly. Would you want to read Superman stories where he just speedblitzes his enemies all the time?@TheBatman586 said:
Boomtube gauntlet, Insider Suit, JLA drones, etc. If anything, the odds are stacked against Spidey. He'd get stomped in this scenario.None of those are accessible nor has he shown to use them on a regular basis, save for the occasional "crisis"
Spiderman smacks Bruce around.
Batman rarely ever uses gadgets beyond his regular gear, and only used the Insider suit for the sole reason to disguise his identity. It was barely, if ever used in combat.
A flat out fight, Batman is losing to Spiderman.
@Shawnbaby said:
@jameshebrew said:Spider-Man has a closet full of goodies he could use too...and more time to prep them. Batman isn't the only Character in Comics that suffers from PIS@Shawnbaby: @TheBatman586 said:
@Deranged Midget said:Most of those gadgets are sitting around in the Batcave, all Bruce has to do is go grab them. Also, he's used the Insider suit for several issues, and he's used the boomtube gauntlet and drones for two issues. The reason why he doesn't use them on a regular basis is because of PIS: his stories would get really boring, really quickly. Would you want to read Superman stories where he just speedblitzes his enemies all the time?@TheBatman586 said:
Boomtube gauntlet, Insider Suit, JLA drones, etc. If anything, the odds are stacked against Spidey. He'd get stomped in this scenario.None of those are accessible nor has he shown to use them on a regular basis, save for the occasional "crisis"
Spiderman smacks Bruce around.
also theres this, which i was saving for later if i needed but since its here
This as well, Spiderman develops gadgets that could easily counter half the things that Batman will bring out.
@jeanroygrant: Batman created the insider suit to test the abilities of those around him during the Road Home arc. It allowed him to mimic certain super powers like the Flashes speed or green lanterns power ring just to name a few but was very limited and required a recharge after each use an ability. Basically a poor mans Amazo and other then that arc hasn't been used to my knowledge so batman wouldn't use that here since that's out of character and any one who say's other wise doesn't know batman.
@jameshebrew said:
@acer51: everyone he believes he should, and we have to leave that to him, its not our place to question the batmans reasoning, hes beyond us
So your saying that if Batman as soon as Batman hears of somone he decides to research evreything about them find out evreything about them even if he's never met them? thats a joke he's not going to research somone he's probably only hear about once or twice.
Fact: Batman has some godly prep feats.
Fact: Bruce is very intelligent and an excellent strategist.
Fact: Batman is a peak human. He may be trained in lots of martial arts, and be at the absolute peak of his physical potential, but he's still human physically.
Fact: Parker is no slouch with prep either. And he gets a full day compared to Bat's hour. That is 24 times longer than Bruce has.
Fact: Parker is extremely intelligent as well. Peter has been compared to Reed Richards (at Pete's age) in such areas as mechanics, biology and physics. Spiderman has designed and built a LOT of gadgets and devices during his career.
Fact: Parker is an incredibly agile, extremely fast, class 10 metahuman. Due to his flexibility and spider abilities he has developed his own unique fighting style, something Bruce may have trouble defending against. Bruce would be hard pressed to inflict damage in h2h combat due to Parker's enhanced reflexes and high durability.
Fact: Bats isn't going to win this fight. Parker may not be as good on the prep side as Bruce, but hes not too far behind. And he's physically superior in every fashion to Batman. If Bruce had more prep time, he would probably find a way to take Parker down.
This battle is seperated in to two groups
Group one: Belives Batman dosn't have enough prep and will lose because of this
Group two: Belives Batman has prepared for this battle before the prep time even started even though Batman has never met Spiderman and knows nothing about him
Im with group two.
The Bat priests will bellive whatever they want though but it's insane to think Batman had prepared for this battle before the prep time even started, i think this is just an exuse to try to extend Batmans prep time.
You lay it out pretty much perfectly, but The Bat-disciples will still argue (Note the word Argue...as opposed to Debate)...because in their world...Batman is God and a God cannot be brought down. They shout their Bat-Dogma on the streets and dismiss those who say otherwise as Heathens and Heretics. They will not be moved by rationality...because they have faith in their Batgod.Fact: Batman has some godly prep feats.
Fact: Bruce is very intelligent and an excellent strategist.
Fact: Batman is a peak human. He may be trained in lots of martial arts, and be at the absolute peak of his physical potential, but he's still human physically.
Fact: Parker is no slouch with prep either. And he gets a full day compared to Bat's hour. That is 24 times longer than Bruce has.
Fact: Parker is extremely intelligent as well. Peter has been compared to Reed Richards (at Pete's age) in such areas as mechanics, biology and physics. Spiderman has designed and built a LOT of gadgets and devices during his career.
Fact: Parker is an incredibly agile, extremely fast, class 10 metahuman. Due to his flexibility and spider abilities he has developed his own unique fighting style, something Bruce may have trouble defending against. Bruce would be hard pressed to inflict damage in h2h combat due to Parker's enhanced reflexes and high durability.
Fact: Bats isn't going to win this fight. Parker may not be as good on the prep side as Bruce, but hes not too far behind. And he's physically superior in every fashion to Batman. If Bruce had more prep time, he would probably find a way to take Parker down.
@Shawnbaby said:
@steelhound56 said:You lay it out pretty much perfectly, but The Bat-disciples will still argue (Note the word Argue...as opposed to Debate)...because in their world...Batman is God and a God cannot be brought down. They shout their Bat-Dogma on the streets and dismiss those who say otherwise as Heathens and Heretics. They will not be moved by rationality...because they have faith in their Batgod.Fact: Batman has some godly prep feats.
Fact: Bruce is very intelligent and an excellent strategist.
Fact: Batman is a peak human. He may be trained in lots of martial arts, and be at the absolute peak of his physical potential, but he's still human physically.
Fact: Parker is no slouch with prep either. And he gets a full day compared to Bat's hour. That is 24 times longer than Bruce has.
Fact: Parker is extremely intelligent as well. Peter has been compared to Reed Richards (at Pete's age) in such areas as mechanics, biology and physics. Spiderman has designed and built a LOT of gadgets and devices during his career.
Fact: Parker is an incredibly agile, extremely fast, class 10 metahuman. Due to his flexibility and spider abilities he has developed his own unique fighting style, something Bruce may have trouble defending against. Bruce would be hard pressed to inflict damage in h2h combat due to Parker's enhanced reflexes and high durability.
Fact: Bats isn't going to win this fight. Parker may not be as good on the prep side as Bruce, but hes not too far behind. And he's physically superior in every fashion to Batman. If Bruce had more prep time, he would probably find a way to take Parker down.
Read my profile page quote im fighting a war aganst the Bat Priests myself.
@Chaos Burn said:
@jameshebrew said:
@tg1982: i dont think the prep time given to a player accounts for driving time lol, y would it thats retarded
it was a joke dnt worry, an earlier poster said that Batman would spend the hour travelling to New York and we were like wtf....
Thank you. My comedic genius goes unrecognized!!!!
@TheBatman586 said:
@Shawnbaby said:The Insider Suit would be of very limited use against Spider-Man. Spider-Sense trumps it. But if you want to go that Route...Spidey Brings out the Iron Spider Armour.The Insider suit can speedblitz Spidey before he reacts. There is also still the matter of JLA robots and a gauntlet that would allow Bats to teleport Spidey to Pluto if he wanted to. Also, the Iron Spidey armor I believe is no longer in Spidey's possession (I think he got rid of it), and besides, that wasn't even built by him.
is that even possible? I thought Spider-sense would make that very difficult to ever speedblitz him - he dodges bullets almost daily
@amazinglover said:
@NEEK_03: Hope your trolling cause he's talking about Darkseid in that post and DS would murder spider man in his sleep peter wouldn't even be worthy of him waking up since he kills stronger people before breakfast.
@jameshebrew: As a man who's has read almost every batman comic since the early nineties he would lose to spiderman 7/10 with the rules given and the argument that he has the insider suit and other such gadgets are moot cause he has those all the time and rarely uses them.
My fault i thought he meant DeathStroke. Darkseid would kill spidey, yes i agree.
Batman has the Insider Suit.... Spidey has his Cosmic Armor....
If we're going to use things they have shown in the past... Spidey still wins
Dang, people were on Batman's jock pretty hard a year ago. Let's see if that's changed now. I'm ready.
Batman prep time, the most overated thing on comicvine.
More then Flash/Zoom and their speed? They can take out Cosmic beings in a stomp with their fans, as for the Batman VS Spidey, Spidey isn't without tech or equipment, he is an Avenger, even if it is a reserve member, can get Tech from Tony (doesn't say no outside help with Tech) and even so he has used the Spidey Armor enough to use it in this battle on his own and with a day prep could set up traps, with only an hour Bats couldn't do that, he'd have to more about what he getting to battle Spidey and how he'll use it, to much to overcome.
4 results my a$s
Haha, it's not only me!
@wolverine08: Haha, I thought this was a fresh thread.
Spider-man doesn't need a day's prep to stomp Batman with only an hour's prep. Batman needs far more time to even begin to counter Parker without prep. Ie: Days not hours.
Fact: Batman has some godly prep feats.
Fact: Bruce is very intelligent and an excellent strategist.
Fact: Batman is a peak human. He may be trained in lots of martial arts, and be at the absolute peak of his physical potential, but he's still human physically.
Fact: Parker is no slouch with prep either. And he gets a full day compared to Bat's hour. That is 24 times longer than Bruce has.
Fact: Parker is extremely intelligent as well. Peter has been compared to Reed Richards (at Pete's age) in such areas as mechanics, biology and physics. Spiderman has designed and built a LOT of gadgets and devices during his career.
Fact: Parker is an incredibly agile, extremely fast, class 10 metahuman. Due to his flexibility and spider abilities he has developed his own unique fighting style, something Bruce may have trouble defending against. Bruce would be hard pressed to inflict damage in h2h combat due to Parker's enhanced reflexes and high durability.
Fact: Bats isn't going to win this fight. Parker may not be as good on the prep side as Bruce, but hes not too far behind. And he's physically superior in every fashion to Batman. If Bruce had more prep time, he would probably find a way to take Parker down.
Summed it up perfectly. There's no chance Bruce can take this, and this is coming from a guy that hates Spider-Man.
Fact: Batman has some godly prep feats.
Fact: Bruce is very intelligent and an excellent strategist.
Fact: Batman is a peak human. He may be trained in lots of martial arts, and be at the absolute peak of his physical potential, but he's still human physically.
Fact: Parker is no slouch with prep either. And he gets a full day compared to Bat's hour. That is 24 times longer than Bruce has.
Fact: Parker is extremely intelligent as well. Peter has been compared to Reed Richards (at Pete's age) in such areas as mechanics, biology and physics. Spiderman has designed and built a LOT of gadgets and devices during his career.
Fact: Parker is an incredibly agile, extremely fast, class 10 metahuman. Due to his flexibility and spider abilities he has developed his own unique fighting style, something Bruce may have trouble defending against. Bruce would be hard pressed to inflict damage in h2h combat due to Parker's enhanced reflexes and high durability.
Fact: Bats isn't going to win this fight. Parker may not be as good on the prep side as Bruce, but hes not too far behind. And he's physically superior in every fashion to Batman. If Bruce had more prep time, he would probably find a way to take Parker down.
Summed it up perfectly. There's no chance Bruce can take this, and this is coming from a guy that loves Spider-Man.
This (Edited parts in bold)
Oh yes, love is the right word. Considering the fact I've argued that lesser characters can beat Spider-Man even though I don't even believe they actually could, it's fair to say I "love" the character. =P
@wolverine08: Haha, I thought this was a fresh thread.
Step your game up son!
Oh yes, love is the right word. Considering the fact I've argued that lesser characters can beat Spider-Man even though I don't even believe they actually could, it's fair to say I "love" the character. =P
I was editing it for myself...
Ok. Le rock. @experio I'm on you. What can Batman do to Spider-man with only an hour of prep? Mind you, people with far more time have tried to beat Spidey. By all means, please enlighten me...
Oh yes, love is the right word. Considering the fact I've argued that lesser characters can beat Spider-Man even though I don't even believe they actually could, it's fair to say I "love" the character. =P
I was editing it for myself...
Oh.
My apologies.
@marvel_boy2241: Give me a few names, and i'm betting how their minds work or resources available differs from that of Bruce.
@experio I'm on you. No. Just pitch an idea for Batman. Tell me something you think he can do in only an hour. Please. Batman wont know the minds of the people Parker works with because Batman only has an hour. He simply can't learn all that. He really can engineer anything beyond what eh already has. That is...unless you can prove otherwise.
@marvel_boy2241: Get the Insider suit - Would hardly take 10 mins.
@experio I'm on you. Awww yes the Insider Suit, you mean this Insider Suit?...
The one that got knocked on it's butt by a human samurai? Spider-man is stronger, faster, and all-around better than this chick. Guess what will happen to batman if Spidey get's ahold of his ankle? Nighty night. A slip up like that would have cost him dearly if it was against Spider-man and there is no denying that. What's next?
@marvel_boy2241: Whats next is that Batman will have an idea on Spidey and include modifications to increase his chances of winning. IIRC the suit ordinarily possesses heat blast, invisibility, energy exerted blast from a gl type ring, Teleportation, flight etc. His only disadvantage is the amount of power the jl type powers absorb, but the battle would have been over before that happens.
@experio I'm on you. Heat blast, invisibility, energy exerted blast , teleportation, flight? All things Spider-man has has had to deal with before. In fact the Insider Suit has come very close to losing at times. Due to surprises like the GL blast and the SF mode, he has come out on top. Too bad Spider-man isn't so easily surprised. Not to mention his reflexes are unrivaled. Include modifications? Wtf are you talking about? What could Batman possibly add to the suit in a mere hour that would actually be of assistance? You are giving Batman waaaay to much credit. An energy blast can easily be avoided by Spider-man who can jump three stories in a single bound. Spider-man has also face speedsters and won because of his reflexes. Even if Batman can avoid him he wont be able to hurt Spider-man because Spider-man can wear some armor. At that point Batman will run out of energy. Then it wont be hard for Spider-man to grab Batman just like Katana did up there in the scan.
@marvel_boy2241: Its not hard to tell from past post and even now that you're not too fond of Bats. What Bruce could add to the suit is some sleeping darts, sonic shockwaves, or intensify the scope of the already placed heat and energy blast transforming it to omni-directional for guaranteed hit etc. With the flight advantage and invisibility, Batman will attack unseen while keeping distance.
And I'm not overrating Bruce's standard but you're severely underestimating his intellect.
@experio I'm on you.
Its not hard to tell from past post and even now that you're not too fond of Bats.
Interesting notion, my friend. However we are not discussing my like or dislike of these characters. I think we can both agree that neither one of us is biased and that's all that matters.
What Bruce could add to the suit is some sleeping darts, sonic shockwaves, or
You are just listing things that Spider-man has overcome with his armors. With a even less than 24 hours worth of prep Spider-man has created bulletproof and even sonic proof armors.
intensify the scope of the already placed heat and energy blast transforming it to omni-directional for guaranteed hit etc.
Ok that doesn't even make sense to me. If it's omnidirectional, wont the blast hit Batman too. And what's to say he hasn't already maxed out on the energy output of The Suit? You are suggesting this man can somehow allow the suit to store more energy, then somehow allow the output device for this energy to be exerted in an omnidirectional fashion, all in under an hour. Hmmm I'm not so sure Batman can do any of that.
With the flight advantage and invisibility, Batman will attack unseen while keeping distance.
Flight of the Insider Suit is very limited. In fact everything on The Suit is limited due to the fact that it has a battery. The flight and invisibility would be short lived due to this fact. Not that it would have been an issue for Spider-man in the first place. Spider-sense will always alert him and flight is nothing he has not had to deal with before. Let alone extremely limited flight.
And I'm not overrating Bruce's standard but you're severely underestimating his intellect.
I am fully aware of these characters' intellect and capabilities and I look forward to enlightening you...
@marvel_boy2241: Spider-man wont know about Batmans insider suit so it's unlikely sonic or heat protection will come to mind. The suit requires a recharge after using each ability, widening the scope to increase range wouldn't reduce it since the same energy fir that ability is being used.
Though it maybe limited, it would still have been more than enough time to end the battle. His spider-sense can alert him but wont protect him from attacks he cannot evade using his reflexes or counter using webbing. And this certainly does not fit in the list of things Spider-man has dealt with which seems to be your whole argument. Spider-mans durability can only keep him up so long, Batman will be switching attacks until Peters down for the count while previous powers used will be recharging for another round if it comes to that
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