well he had to take the elevator or stairs at his liesure stride ppl still talking about it i say 5 min. noticed how petey booked the scene of the crime mighty quick and convienent if you ask me. :P sides wolvie was goofin around with him its his friendly side you saw there..
and to wolvie a ball shot is worse then going against 100 tonners by his own admission so he probably sees kicking him in the privates as a worse punishment. on a side note he has also keeled over the hulk the same way.
"well he had to take the elevator or stairs at his liesure stride ppl still talking about it i say 5 min. noticed how petey booked the scene of the crime mighty quick and convienent if you ask me. :P
Peter was occupied with getting to MJ. He wasn't worried about Wolverine after tossing him threw that window.
There is absolutely nothing Spider can do to kill Wolvie, while there are plenty of ways Wolvie can kill Spidey...Spidey's ONLY chance would be to immobilize Wolverine, or knock him out.
"There is absolutely nothing Spider can do to kill Wolvie, while there are plenty of ways Wolvie can kill Spidey...Spidey's ONLY chance would be to immobilize Wolverine, or knock him out."
Which, in his case, wouldn't be difficult, but not easy either.
every scan i have seen spidey go all out on wolverine has failed to remotely hurt wolverine, yet tires out spidey weakens and leaves him open for a fatal strike.
"There is absolutely nothing Spider can do to kill Wolvie, while there are plenty of ways Wolvie can kill Spidey...Spidey's ONLY chance would be to immobilize Wolverine, or knock him out."
"There is absolutely nothing Spider can do to kill Wolvie, while there are plenty of ways Wolvie can kill Spidey...Spidey's ONLY chance would be to immobilize Wolverine, or knock him out."
Easy for spiderman"
when has he ever come close to being able to knock him out? who in spideys strength rage has knocked him out? not having overtaxed his healing factor first?
"There is absolutely nothing Spider can do to kill Wolvie, while there are plenty of ways Wolvie can kill Spidey...Spidey's ONLY chance would be to immobilize Wolverine, or knock him out."
Which, in his case, wouldn't be difficult, but not easy either."
Don't be modest static, PIS off Wolverine could never hit someone that moves as fast as Spiderman. Bloodlusted fight 20 feet away from eachother Spidey would barrage Logan with webbing and close the distance before Logan could ever defend himself. Spidey then repeatedly stabs Logan with his own claw while saying, "Stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself."
"There is absolutely nothing Spider can do to kill Wolvie, while there are plenty of ways Wolvie can kill Spidey...Spidey's ONLY chance would be to immobilize Wolverine, or knock him out."
Which, in his case, wouldn't be difficult, but not easy either."
Don't be modest static, PIS off Wolverine could never hit someone that moves as fast as Spiderman. Bloodlusted fight 20 feet away from eachother Spidey would barrage Logan with webbing and close the distance before Logan could ever defend himself. Spidey then repeatedly stabs Logan with his own claw while saying, "Stop hitting yourself, stop hitting yourself.""
wolverine is more then capable of matching a bloodlusted spidey in combat..wolverine has already fought similar reflexed fighters of spideys caliber and kept up while bystanders were unable to make out their movement or even know what they were watching when all they see is blurs..
"There is absolutely nothing Spider can do to kill Wolvie, while there are plenty of ways Wolvie can kill Spidey...Spidey's ONLY chance would be to immobilize Wolverine, or knock him out."
Easy for spiderman"
when has he ever come close to being able to knock him out? who in spideys strength rage has knocked him out? not having overtaxed his healing factor first?"
Doesn't matter if he has done it before. He can do it. There are many times Wolverine has been knocked out with hits that are WELL withing spidermans strength limit. Just cause PLOT hasn't alotted spidey his wolverine bashing time, doesn't mean spidey can't easily make the man black out.
when has he ever come close to being able to knock him out? who in spideys strength rage has knocked him out? not having overtaxed his healing factor first?"
Doesn't matter if he has done it before. He can do it. There are many times Wolverine has been knocked out with hits that are WELL withing spidermans strength limit. Just cause PLOT hasn't alotted spidey his wolverine bashing time, doesn't mean spidey can't easily make the man black out."
name an istance or and a name and the story behind it... if their is plot involved positive that it is to make it possible to knock him out i know only three instance that reguired extra ordinary means as well as plot to make it possible.
wolverine is more then capable of matching a bloodlusted spidey in combat..wolverine has already fought similar reflexed fighters of spideys caliber and kept up while bystanders were unable to make out their movement or even know what they were watching when all they see is blurs.."
What Dark King said.
In case you do happen to find instances to take out of context, find me feats comparible to dodging bullets after they're fired.
wolverine is more then capable of matching a bloodlusted spidey in combat..wolverine has already fought similar reflexed fighters of spideys caliber and kept up while bystanders were unable to make out their movement or even know what they were watching when all they see is blurs.."
What Dark King said.
In case you do happen to find instances to take out of context, find me feats comparible to dodging bullets after they're fired. "
wolverine is more then capable of matching a bloodlusted spidey in combat..wolverine has already fought similar reflexed fighters of spideys caliber and kept up while bystanders were unable to make out their movement or even know what they were watching when all they see is blurs.."
What Dark King said.
In case you do happen to find instances to take out of context, find me feats comparible to dodging bullets after they're fired. "
wolverine doesnt need to dodge bullets it doesnt kill him or slow him down it has to be a lot of them to remotely effect him but he has done it.. wolverine beat the path of an exiting bullet from its chamber after the hammer was struck.
by wolverines own admission he has explained why he doesnt dodge even spidey said he was capable but doesnt so has beast..
wolverine is more then capable of matching a bloodlusted spidey in combat..wolverine has already fought similar reflexed fighters of spideys caliber and kept up while bystanders were unable to make out their movement or even know what they were watching when all they see is blurs.."
What Dark King said.
In case you do happen to find instances to take out of context, find me feats comparible to dodging bullets after they're fired. "
wolverine doesnt need to dodge bullets."
Post refuted because he's been made a pincusion by every caliber of bullet known to man? Nope, need an argument better then that. Wolverine is a slug to Peter, prove he's got significant feats on par with dodging bullets.
wolverine is more then capable of matching a bloodlusted spidey in combat..wolverine has already fought similar reflexed fighters of spideys caliber and kept up while bystanders were unable to make out their movement or even know what they were watching when all they see is blurs.."
What Dark King said.
In case you do happen to find instances to take out of context, find me feats comparible to dodging bullets after they're fired. "
wolverine doesnt need to dodge bullets."
Post refuted because he's been made a pincusion by every caliber of bullet known to man? Nope, need an argument better then that. Wolverine is a slug to Peter, prove he's got significant feats on par with dodging bullets."
your missing the point. his speed is for naught. not saying that wolverine is sluggish in the least. wolverine is the better tactician and cannot be stopped. if need be logan will track peter to the end of the earth until he does him in. the fight doesnt end until logan says it does.
your missing the point. his speed is for naught. not saying that wolverine is sluggish in the least. wolverine is the better tactician and cannot be stopped. if need be logan will track peter to the end of the earth until he does him in. the fight doesnt end until logan says it does."
Better tactitian i.e. rush in taking the blunt of damage relying on your healing factor and slash wildly? Where's his tact should Spiderman just web-cacoon Logans fists to his head and leave him while making quirky jokes? You still haven't refuted the vast speed margin between the two, Logan's still a slug to Peter, remember?
P.S. I don't care "what Logan says," as per the OP, this is a fight, not a grudge match. From what you've posted, that doesn't sounds way out of character of Logan to "track Peter to the end of the Earth" unless specified otherwise.
wolverine cut the wpn and went after petey remember if this is a fight for ko or kill spidey is majorly screwed if its can spidey slow him down do more then three seconds yes its possible depending in what position he puts him in.
wolverine was designed to have similar level speed reflex to spidey as shown here.
wolverine entire skeleton is covered in adamantium including ligaments he is not laced but bonded on molecular lvl. this aint the movie version.
spidey cannot produce sufficient force of rotating his neck past the breaking point or let alone snap it from that angle... if he did hulk would have done it when he tried as grey hulk when he punched him in the back of the neck repeatedly trying to.
"wolverine entire skeleton is covered in adamantium including ligaments he is not laced but bonded on molecular lvl. this aint the movie version. "
The comic book version has been KO'ed before, despite that the adamantium skeleton. It wouldn't make sense for someone of sufficient superhuman strength to not be able to KO Wolverine, since repeated blows can cause concussions.
"wolverine entire skeleton is covered in adamantium including ligaments he is not laced but bonded on molecular lvl. this aint the movie version. "
The comic book version has been KO'ed before, despite that the adamantium skeleton. It wouldn't make sense for someone of sufficient superhuman strength to not be able to KO Wolverine, since repeated blows can cause concussions.
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Exactly, I don't get why people can't understand that.
because he hasnt i know each time he has bn knocked out, i also know the situation of how it was made possible. something that spidey will not b able to duplicate vance
"because he hasnt i know each time he has bn knocked out, i also know the situation of how it was made possible. something that spidey will not b able to duplicate vance"
you type and have similar attitude toward ppl, that may be why.
so now explain who has knocked out wolverine by pure concussive force without taxing his HF.. pre soul theft and lowered HF and fighting skill and willpower as explained by the lazear.
"ok i dont know how many times you need to be told that know one under 80+ tons has knocked him out by pure concussion blows.
how many times must i post the scan were it explains his crappy showing of all three of your supposed knock outs?
Wow. So, why is it that he gets KO'ed in showing, but not another? Doesn't make sense. So, there's a plot device behind him getting KO'ed, right? Doesn't make sense either... Wasn't he KO'ed by Molly Hayes (I think). She's below class 80.
"you type and have similar attitude toward ppl, that may be why."
Vance is a pretty good debater, so I'll take that as a compliment. But know I'm not Vance Astro or whatever name he is going by now.
castleking said:
"so now explain who has knocked out wolverine by pure concussive force without taxing his HF.. pre soul theft and lowered HF and fighting skill and willpower as explained by the lazear."
Overloading Wolverine's healing factor is more about speed than pure strength. You have to have enough strength to knock him around(superhuman level), but you also need speed. Just hitting him really hard will give him a headache but he will recover quickly. You have to keep at him, so that his healing factor doesn't have a chance. Spidey has the speed to do this and the strength to knock him around. Spidey can't knock him out by just trying to hit him really hard.
"you type and have similar attitude toward ppl, that may be why.
so now explain who has knocked out wolverine by pure concussive force without taxing his HF.. pre soul theft and lowered HF and fighting skill and willpower as explained by the lazear."
Wait. So his soul depends on whether or not he gets KO'ed? What the f@ck? And, what does willpower have to do with being KO'ed?
Wolverine! In the end, Spidey doesn't have an Adamantium encased skeleton, doesn't have a healing factor even remotely close to Wolverines, and hasn't survived half the things Wolvie has! Logan's the last one standing in the end!
"Wolverine! In the end, Spidey doesn't have an Adamantium encased skeleton, doesn't have a healing factor even remotely close to Wolverines, and hasn't survived half the things Wolvie has! Logan's the last one standing in the end!"
Spidey hasn't survived half the things Wolverine has because he doesn't get hit by half the stuff Wolverine does.
"ok i dont know how many times you need to be told that know one under 80+ tons has knocked him out by pure concussion blows.
how many times must i post the scan were it explains his crappy showing of all three of your supposed knock outs?
Wow. So, why is it that he gets KO'ed in showing, but not another? Doesn't make sense. So, there's a plot device behind him getting KO'ed, right? Doesn't make sense either... Wasn't he KO'ed by Molly Hayes (I think). She's below class 80.
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you think you dont know, i dont know her strength either, but she has toppled a skyrise size monster so its not much of a point for you their static she is high tier strength lvl mutant.. even she can only use it in a limited time.
even her strength feats are inconsistent just not known her actual abilities.
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