spiderman vs spiderman 2099 vs scarlet spiderman
The fake asgardians weren't equal to actual one's.
" @DarkSpidey21: Comic vine and wikis are not trustworthy so unless you have a scan of it not working or a scan of someone stating it doesn't then theres really no reason to believe it wont work "
" @FrankenBlade said:Hang on, I'll try find some..." @spidey 15: Spider-Man 2099 has literally stopped a full-force blow from Thor with one hand.... "Scans? "
" @FrankenBlade: Thor wasn't around in 2099, unless you mean THE FAKE GENETICALLY ENGINERED THOR. The fake asgardians weren't equal to actual one's. "Ah, I must have missed that part.
@spidey 15 said:
" @nightwing91 said:It really is, Thor 2099 has performed quite powerful feats." @FrankenBlade: Thor wasn't around in 2099, unless you mean THE FAKE GENETICALLY ENGINERED THOR. The fake asgardians weren't equal to actual one's. "If that's the case then it's not that impressive. =] "
" @nightwing91 said:Like?" @FrankenBlade: Thor wasn't around in 2099, unless you mean THE FAKE GENETICALLY ENGINERED THOR. The fake asgardians weren't equal to actual one's. "Ah, I must have missed that part.
@spidey 15 said:" @nightwing91 said:It really is, Thor 2099 has performed quite powerful feats. "" @FrankenBlade: Thor wasn't around in 2099, unless you mean THE FAKE GENETICALLY ENGINERED THOR. The fake asgardians weren't equal to actual one's. "If that's the case then it's not that impressive. =] "
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" @spidey 15: Like controlling the weather, throwing people a few miles away to name a few.... "Controlling weather has nothing to do with strength to begin with.
Throwing people aways is something that many super humans could do if they were not prevented by their morals. If Peter could lift and destroy tanks that weigh close to 40 tons, or trucks that weigh 27 tons, then he would not really have a problem throwing people too far away.
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@FrankenBlade said:
" @spidey 15: Like controlling the weather, throwing people a few miles away to name a few.... "
He didn't throw him miles, he threw Miguel from a floating city, which he did to a surprised Miguel trying to keep his identity secret in front of Dana and miguel was falling from many miles in the sky.
" @spidey 15: Well it's also come sfrom people using scans from respect threads out of context and also multiple versions of the character, or confusing entries on wiki's. Most people don't purposefully use the wrong info. "That's of course true, im just glad that there are people who actually know the facts and can correct the others.
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Alot of people say the original wins. Mainly because he has more Exp. But Ben has other advantages.
" @PirateKing69: Alot of people say the original wins. Mainly because he has more Exp. But Ben has other advantages. "The only edge he has is impact webbing.
Which is not much of a help since the majority of the time, spidey will dodging it.
It's not really wrong to assume that Pete could take the win.
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" @comicdude23 said:" @PirateKing69: Alot of people say the original wins. Mainly because he has more Exp. But Ben has other advantages. "The only edge he has is impact webbing. Which is not much of a help since the majority of the time, spidey will dodging it. It's not really wrong to assume that Pete could take the win. =] "
I know. But i think Ben BARELY wins here.
Thanks for the update. Anyway as a netural for this debate, who do you think would win?
" I think it's highly debatable. I still have trouble finding a winner. =[ "i agree....i really like this pic of Ben as my AV lol.....We should break down the advantages that they have over each other
"I think it's highly debatable. I still have trouble finding a winner. =[ "
Well. I say Ben. He has impact webbing. And Pete might hold back angainst Ben. Ben is also serious.
As for Ben and Peter it can go either way Pete's got the better fighting style as ben spent the years traveling , so while he's the more polished fighter and has the most exp, ben has his superior web capabilities in the impact webbing, and the stingers he can fire. But Parker is going to be aware of this due to his knowledge of Ben, but Ben also has his biggest weakness in the open in that his webshooters are on the outside, but most likely peter woudn't be able to get to them to say crush them.
It can honesty go either way.
" @comicdude23: The serious doesn't apply whehn he's fought Ben he has been completely serious both times why would he depart from that now? "
I'll change list.
Just to add something, in fights between kaine and the free for all against spider-cide, who looked more composed? Pete or Ben
Allright then, timestorm spidey does not count for this battle and those two series (Marvel Knights 2099 and Timestorm) will do nothing to complete my collection :) Thanks, lol
@FrankenBlade:
Wrong Thor I believe.......
Seriously, I don't actually see any way for Ben to win in this fight. He's just Peter with a fraction of the experience.
A thought just occurred to me, is this pre-The Other Spidey or post-Other? Because I'm pretty sure I remember him being immune to poisons after he gained his upgrade? I might be wrong, though, I haven't read those comics since they came out.
"Seriously, I don't actually see any way for Ben to win in this fight. He's just Peter with a fraction of the experience. A thought just occurred to me, is this pre-The Other Spidey or post-Other? Because I'm pretty sure I remember him being immune to poisons after he gained his upgrade? I might be wrong, though, I haven't read those comics since they came out. "
Ben has Impact Webbing and Stingers.....he can win this....it can go either way between Pete or Ben
" @Donovan Montgomery: No problem but you should hunt down the exiles in which he was on the team. "Doesn't that branch off into an alternate reality as well?
I actually would get Timestorm, it's pretty interesting. Be prepared for a totally different guy to the Miguel O'Hara you know, though.
@FrankenBlade:
If I see the Timestorm trade at the library, I'll pick it up....(I just won't try to fit it into my vision of 2099)......I think that's where I saw the Exiles with Spidey 2099 in it....but it was a brief apperance so probably right at the end of his stint.
" @FrankenBlade: Exiles branched off cause the groups presence. "It's still basically the same guy though, right? And not some kind of reimagining?
@FrankenBlade: Same guyu the only reimagining is timestorm in which miguel is a teenager in that series.
I think Peter may actually win unless Ben does something really clever and pulls a cheap shot at close range with the stingers while in H2H or something. Idk that is though
" I don't think exp is relevant here. Ben has enough experience from his short career that even if it's not as much as Pete's, is still enough to face Pete in a way that it won't be important who is more experienced. =] "True but in my knowledge he has not picked up a tank, building, or train. He cannot push himself so hard as Pete, not to say that he cannot push himself because he certainty can. But anyway Ben may win because he has more options and will eventually pull something to gain the upper hand. It could still go either way. I am leaning towards Ben though.
" @spidey 15 said:I don't see how lifting a tank or train has do with experience." I don't think exp is relevant here. Ben has enough experience from his short career that even if it's not as much as Pete's, is still enough to face Pete in a way that it won't be important who is more experienced. =] "True but in my knowledge he has not picked up a tank, building, or train. He cannot push himself so hard as Pete, not to say that he cannot push himself because he certainty can. But anyway Ben may win because he has more options and will eventually pull something to gain the upper hand. It could still go either way. I am leaning towards Ben though. "
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Look, all you people who for some reason think Miguel is weaker than 616 Spider-Man:
Go to 3:40 on this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0wAgaCsjd8
You see? Miguel O'Hara has just demonstrated agility on par with Peter Parker's.
Another example? Watch this video from 3:20 onwards: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQ16U8eNOx4
And Miguel has just been seen doing just as well against Venom as Peter does.
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