Spiderman VS Nightcrawler

Well... Unless this is AoA Nightcrawler he won't be willing to really use those weapons, or his teleporting, to his full ability. Spider-man should take this fairly easily.

remember Spidey vs the spot on the 90s cartoon? He used his spider-sense to see where he was teleporting

" remember Spidey vs the spot on the 90s cartoon? He used his spider-sense to see where he was teleporting "

" @Matezoide: Thank you :) It's not very original. 
 
@spiderguylll said:

" remember Spidey vs the spot on the 90s cartoon? He used his spider-sense to see where he was teleporting "

That's not canon. "

i dont think so in this specific scenario

" i dont think so in this specific scenario "

just because NC can and is very capable of hitting spidey and he has weapons in this fight and it is in the dark unless spidey has night vision now.....I know his spider sense would usually be the deciding factor but there is only so much it can do......usually i think spidey teabags NC but not now

Kurt doesn't need to hit Spidey.  That's what everyone seems to be getting hung up on.  The OP states that Kurt has a bunch of weapons, so presumably his morals are off.  A port blitz all around Spidey from a distance while throwing the weapons should be enough to wear Spidey down a bit, then Kurt can finish him with a mile high 'port drop.  Even if morals are on, Kurt can 'port blitz and ko Spidey.  All he has to do is touch Spiderman once, and then it's a jaunt on Mr Toad's Wild Ride.  Being a passenger when Kurt 'ports is uncomfortable at best.  When he wants, it is "equivalent to a dozen punches from Wolverine's adamantium laced fists".  That's a single 'port.  He 'port blitzes with Pete, and Petey will be down for the count.

It's not like spidey would have any trouble knowing where NC will be teleported, since he has already shown the ability to locate people. Also he will be able to know it before, Curt attempt to do since he will already know where he will teleport, before he even attempted to do it, in the same way he knew where Iron Fist would land his strikes.  
=]

spidy wins

" Kurt doesn't need to hit Spidey.  That's what everyone seems to be getting hung up on.  The OP states that Kurt has a bunch of weapons, so presumably his morals are off.  A port blitz all around Spidey from a distance while throwing the weapons should be enough to wear Spidey down a bit, then Kurt can finish him with a mile high 'port drop.  Even if morals are on, Kurt can 'port blitz and ko Spidey.  All he has to do is touch Spiderman once, and then it's a jaunt on Mr Toad's Wild Ride.  Being a passenger when Kurt 'ports is uncomfortable at best.  When he wants, it is "equivalent to a dozen punches from Wolverine's adamantium laced fists".  That's a single 'port.  He 'port blitzes with Pete, and Petey will be down for the count. "

" It's not like spidey would have any trouble knowing where NC will be teleported, since he has already shown the ability to locate people. Also he will be able to know it before, Curt attempt to do since he will already know where he will teleport, before he even attempted to do it, in the same way he knew where Iron Fist would land his strikes.  =] "

" @spidey 15 said:

" It's not like spidey would have any trouble knowing where NC will be teleported, since he has already shown the ability to locate people. Also he will be able to know it before, Curt attempt to do since he will already know where he will teleport, before he even attempted to do it, in the same way he knew where Iron Fist would land his strikes.  =] "

he's not gunna know where he teleports before he started teleporting. he will sense it when he starts appearing from a teleport "

Spiderman

" @WeaponX510 said:

" @spidey 15 said:

" It's not like spidey would have any trouble knowing where NC will be teleported, since he has already shown the ability to locate people. Also he will be able to know it before, Curt attempt to do since he will already know where he will teleport, before he even attempted to do it, in the same way he knew where Iron Fist would land his strikes.  =] "

he's not gunna know where he teleports before he started teleporting. he will sense it when he starts appearing from a teleport "

And you know this... how? "

his spider sense works from motion threw the air how would he feel him coming if he isnt there yet.  

" @(((Prodigy))) said:

" @WeaponX510 said:

" @spidey 15 said:

" It's not like spidey would have any trouble knowing where NC will be teleported, since he has already shown the ability to locate people. Also he will be able to know it before, Curt attempt to do since he will already know where he will teleport, before he even attempted to do it, in the same way he knew where Iron Fist would land his strikes.  =] "

he's not gunna know where he teleports before he started teleporting. he will sense it when he starts appearing from a teleport "

And you know this... how? "

his spider sense works from motion threw the air how would he feel him coming if he isnt there yet....once he starts appearing from a teleport he will sense it its a spider senseits not telepathy professor X would know where he's going before he goes but not spidey "

" @bag_o_x_men said:

" Kurt doesn't need to hit Spidey.  That's what everyone seems to be getting hung up on.  The OP states that Kurt has a bunch of weapons, so presumably his morals are off.  A port blitz all around Spidey from a distance while throwing the weapons should be enough to wear Spidey down a bit, then Kurt can finish him with a mile high 'port drop.  Even if morals are on, Kurt can 'port blitz and ko Spidey.  All he has to do is touch Spiderman once, and then it's a jaunt on Mr Toad's Wild Ride.  Being a passenger when Kurt 'ports is uncomfortable at best.  When he wants, it is "equivalent to a dozen punches from Wolverine's adamantium laced fists".  That's a single 'port.  He 'port blitzes with Pete, and Petey will be down for the count. "

Why does having a variety of weapons automatically mean Kurt's morals are off?  Also, Pete has a very high damage soak. Tanking the "equivalent of a dozen punches from Wolverine's adamantium laced fists" (sounds a lot like hyperbole to me) a few times isn't going to bring him down. "

well sh*t for real spiders its motion threw the air

" well sh*t for real spiders its motion threw the air "

Because all of the weapons listed are weapons that Kurt would never use unless he had his morals off.  

He can't tank his way through a Nightcrawler 'port blitz.  Rogue barely can.   

 If the 'port blitz doesn't work, then Kurt knows that Spidey's durability is high enough for him to survive a 'port drop from a mile or so, and Kurt wins again.  

Even if Pete dodges a punch and then grabs Kurt for a throw, or punches and Kurt dodges and grabs Pete, or Pete punches and Kurt takes it in the body (he'll be hurt, but can make the grab then) then it's teleport time, and Peter is done.  

#1 Maybe you can tell me how a devout catholic who doesn't like to hurt people at all anyway is going to use knives and stars without cutting or killing someone and stay within his morals.  I don't see any way for the weapons to be of use unless Kurt's morals are off.   I actually assume that since the OP didn't otherwise state it, that Kurt's morals are in fact on, hence the reason I haven't said anything like he stabs Spiderman.  My argument is not really for morals being off, it's that the weapons don't apply.  I just made mention of the fact that if he did use them, his morals would have to be off.  

2  Kurt can make his 'ports easier or harder on passengers now.  He evacuated a train full of passengers causing them hardly any discomfort, much like your scan of Rogue above.  When he does it hard however, we're back to adamantium fist equivalent.  I believe that quote was from one of the early appearances of the Neo, I'll have to look to verify.  He's used hard 'ports on Rogue a few times including once in the Neo issue I'm referencing where it's such a shock to her system that it snaps her powers back to normal.    
 

#3 I said that Kurt would only 'port drop if Spiderman had already tanked a hard 'port blitz and Kurt determined that Spidey would survive.  Well within his morals.   

#4 I do think Kurt can tank a body shot from Spidey, especially with morals on, as Spiderman has a tendency to pull his blows.  

#5 You have no answer for BFR.   

#6 Just to reiterate, while Spidey actually has to land blows against a teleporter who is nearly his equal in speed and agility, Kurt needs to merely touch Peter once to initiate any of a series of ways he can win.  The smart money's on Kurt.  
 

" Spidey ko's normal humans, yes.  Kurt is not a normal human, however. 

" I know his spider sense would usually be the deciding factor

" @bag_o_x_men said:

" Spidey ko's normal humans, yes.  Kurt is not a normal human, however. 

Spider-Man KO'ed Bulldozer, Titania, and Absorbing Man. Neither of them are normal humans, either. "

"Not the point.  The point is that Spidey with morals on will be pulling his punches as he would with a normal human because he knows that Kurt's durability is roughly human level, but Kurt can actually take more because he's so flexible and fast.  Spidey will be throwing lower level punches than he needs to one-shot Kurt. "

" @bag_o_x_men:  Is this fight with morals or without morals... The OP doesn't specifies that... "

" @Deadcool said:

" @bag_o_x_men:  Is this fight with morals or without morals... The OP doesn't specifies that... "

If the OP doesn't specify it generally means with morals on.  I made an argument earlier that because Kurt has the weapons he does, that his morals may be off since otherwise, they're basically useless.  I believe we've all since agreed that morals are on for both characters, however. "

"

This has been done several times. 
Spider-Man wins.

 

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" @bag_o_x_men said:

" @Deadcool said:

" @bag_o_x_men:  Is this fight with morals or without morals... The OP doesn't specifies that... "

If the OP doesn't specify it generally means with morals on.  I made an argument earlier that because Kurt has the weapons he does, that his morals may be off since otherwise, they're basically useless.  I believe we've all since agreed that morals are on for both characters, however. "

When it's not specify, we assume the characters are fighting at their best of their ability within the limits of their personality. That obviously means that spidey will fight at his best, but he just won't kill. Spidey rarely fights at his best, but in that occasion, he will actually do it. =] "

Bump.

Spidey

Nightcrawler.