A serious spidey will win. A joker spidey: It can go either way because spidey is careless and he lacks the skills that are needed. His morals can also prevent him from using powerful blows. MK is the superior fighter from the 2 but he is still not as good as some other fighters that spidey fought and done well. I'll give to "joker" spidey a 6/10
If Moonknight can get Spidey to make it a straight up brawl, I think Moonknight can take this, but there is the catch. Its not going to be a straight up brawl, Spidey takes this.
I think Spidey can take this. Moon Knight is the superior fighter of the two, but he's not one of the best martial artists in Marvel. Spidey has fought some of the best. Albeit, he doesn't usually do so well, but Moon Knight is not at their skill level. He does have his gadgets, but his gadgets have never been too elaborate. Spidey shouldn't have too much trouble avoiding them. Spidey can be careless and isn't a trained combatant, but I just don't see Moon Knight's combat skill giving Spidey as much trouble as Captain America, Daredevil, Iron Fist, and others that he has fought. I could see Moon Knight winning, but I could see Spidey win this also. If SpiderMan was serious, he'd win for sure.
@Silver2467: MK against a spidey( joker ) he should have more chances. As you spidey has faced some of the best and he actually did well in some occasions but even if MK isn't that good his skills can be a good help. Let's not forget his armor. Of course his armor doesn't cover all of his body but it still can protect him from some blows. Also spidey's morals will prevent him from using blows that can actually hurt the parts that aren't cover from the armor. Also his carelessness can be an advantage for MK so his skills can actually affect spidey. I don't see why spidey can't win but i think against a joker spidey he has more chances than spidey. But as you said a serious spidey will win. IMO it will be a slaughterhouse considering how powerful can spidey be if he use his power seriously.=]
" @Silver2467: MK against a spidey( joker ) he should have more chances. As you spidey has faced some of the best and he actually did well in some occasions but even if MK isn't that good his skills can be a good help. Let's not forget his armor. Of course his armor doesn't cover all of his body but it still can protect him from some blows. Also spidey's morals will prevent him from using blows that can actually hurt the parts that aren't cover from the armor. Also his carelessness can be an advantage for MK so his skills can actually affect spidey. I don't see why spidey can't win but i think against a joker spidey he has more chances than spidey. But as you said a serious spidey will win. IMO it will be a slaughterhouse considering how powerful can spidey be if he use his power seriously.=] "
@Silver2467: Well i don't know if you said the same. I have the impression that you said spidey might win more often than not. I persony believe otherwise. I give to MK 6/10
" @Silver2467: Well i don't know if you said the same. I have the impression that you said spidey might win more often than not. I persony believe otherwise. I give to MK 6/10 "
Actually, I would give Spidey a slight majority of 6/10. He's just nowhere near as skilled as some of the other martial artists Spidey has fought. He's also not in as good physical condition as they are. I think Moon Knight can win, but I am more inclined to go for Spidey on this.
@spidey 15: Duuuuuuuude I didn't recognize you for a second there. It's unusual to see you without a Spider-Man avatar (though that pic of Iron Fist is rockawesome!)
BTW, serious Spidey curbstomps. Joker Spidey doesn't stomp but still takes a healthy majority.
@Power NeXus: lol. You are the...i don'tknow but you are one of the many people that didn't recognize me because of my avy...=] Thanks anyway. I started to use avatars from my favorite street level martial artist. I will use cap, moon knight, batman etc.... I don't plan to use any spidey avy for now but don't worry, i won't forget him. =P
I agree with your opinion about serious/joker spidey.=]
@spidey 15: @Silver2467: How will it not be easy? What is Mark bringing to the table that Spider-Man can't easily overcome? Spider-Man can easily incapacitate him or even one-shot him. They've only had a "fight" once and it was in the classic era. All Spector did was dodge an attack LOL
If Spidey's fighting the way he normally does, then what I said above is true. If he goes all out, then yes, it is a stomp. Also, post scans of Spidey fighting martial artists for k4tzm4n.
@k4tzm4n: I doubt that he is going to one shot him. You know how is spidey, he hesitate to do it. Mark is better fighter, that's an advantage. People with similar speed of spector were able to avoid the webbing, i don't see why spector can't. Do you have scans of their fight. I would like to see it.=]
@Silver2467: Even in his regular moral set Spider-Man still has vastly superior speed, strength, agility, and methods to eliminate Spector. Characters like Daredevil and Cap have hung with Parker because they're both technically superior to Spector AND have other attributes (superior stats, radar). Spector brings nothing to the table that Spider-Man can't easily defeat. Frankly, I'm baffled that I'm the only one supporting this, considering I'm such a big fan of Moon Knight.
@Silver2467: Even in his regular moral set Spider-Man still has vastly superior speed, strength, agility, and methods to eliminate Spector. Characters like Daredevil and Cap have hung with Parker because they're both technically superior to Spector AND have other attributes (superior stats, radar). Spector brings nothing to the table that Spider-Man can't easily defeat. Frankly, I'm baffled that I'm the only one supporting this, considering I'm such a big fan of Moon Knight.
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I agree that Spidey takes the majority, but he's had tough times with martial artists plenty of times. I also pointed out that Moon Knight isn't as good as Cap, DD, Elektra, and others, but he is still a trained fighter and strategist. Spidey's a freestyle fighter who lacks tactical know-how.
@k4tzm4n: Those things are true but spidey is always careless and messing around. These are imprtant factors that make him lose. Also you are not the only one that is debating against his favorite character.=[
@Silver2467: So what? The fact is he just isn't good enough to compete with someone like Spider-Man, especially when given such restricted equipment by the OP.
@spidey 15: There's no need for you to debate against Spider-Man here. Even when joking around, it's highly unlikely Spector will land a KO before easily being incapacitated or KO'd himself. He simply has no defense against Spider-Man's webbing. IIRC, he only has a "Baton' here...Which I assume the OP means to be his truncheon.
@Silver2467: And you're incorrect about Spider-Man lacking "tactical-know how". He may not be a conventional tactician like Rogers or Fury, but he's extremely skilled when it comes to thinking on the fly in combat. How else do you think he's been able to best foes who have massive physical advantages?
@k4tzm4n: I guess you are right. But as i mentioned before, people with similar stats to spector had avoid the webbing. Well, MK might got web but it won't happen with the first or second shot imo.=]
As i asked before, do you have scans of their fight. I woulf be gald if you show them pal. =D
" @Silver2467: And you're incorrect about Spider-Man lacking "tactical-know how". He may not be a conventional tactician like Rogers or Fury, but he's extremely skilled when it comes to thinking on the fly in combat. How else do you think he's been able to best foes who have massive physical advantages? "
That's not what I meant. That's because of Spidey's inventive genius, not strategic genius. When I say tactical know-how, I mean develop a straight forward fighting strategy, not an alternate means to defeat an opponent.
" @Silver2467: And you're incorrect about Spider-Man lacking "tactical-know how". He may not be a conventional tactician like Rogers or Fury, but he's extremely skilled when it comes to thinking on the fly in combat. How else do you think he's been able to best foes who have massive physical advantages? "
That's not what I meant. That's because of Spidey's inventive genius, not strategic genius. When I say tactical know-how, I mean develop a straight forward fighting strategy, not an alternate means to defeat an opponent. "
Okay. I'm saying, though, just because he isn't a traditonal tactician isn't really a disadvantage.
" @Silver2467: And you're incorrect about Spider-Man lacking "tactical-know how". He may not be a conventional tactician like Rogers or Fury, but he's extremely skilled when it comes to thinking on the fly in combat. How else do you think he's been able to best foes who have massive physical advantages? "
That's not what I meant. That's because of Spidey's inventive genius, not strategic genius. When I say tactical know-how, I mean develop a straight forward fighting strategy, not an alternate means to defeat an opponent. "
Okay. I'm saying, though, just because he isn't a traditonal tactician isn't really a disadvantage. "
Yes, actually it is. Again, he's a freestyle fighter. He has no trained discipline or form in combat. I'm not saying he's a bad fighter, but his skill is nothing compared to conditioned martial artists. Now, of course, Moon Knight is far from the best fighter in Marvel. That's the primary reason I give it to Spidey.
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