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#1 Posted by shady (47 posts) - - Show Bio

spiderman is cooler and better

#2 Posted by Mighty Magneto (13027 posts) - - Show Bio

Humantorch makes BBQ spider

#3 Posted by Odyssey_Dawn (84674 posts) - - Show Bio

Is it soup yet? Smell that? Smells like someone died.

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#4 Posted by GL Bertron (3708 posts) - - Show Bio

Pretty onesided. Spiderman has very little chance of winning if Johnny was being serious. Do you like your hero extra crispy?

#5 Posted by Impact (19 posts) - - Show Bio

As much as I would love to say Torch, Spidey has beaten or at least slowed the Juggernaught. I'm also sure that because Spidey is a larger seller, he would win. But really we all know the answer to this or at least what we all want. All insects fry under the right conditions. I'm sure we've all owned a magnifying glass. Good times. Good times.

#6 Posted by Buckshot (18914 posts) - - Show Bio

Spidey could only win if they weren't fighting to kill. HT couldn't hit him without risking killing him so Spiderman would win. Otherwise and in most cases, HT wins hands down. No contest.

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#7 Posted by GL Bertron (3708 posts) - - Show Bio

The nice thing about these battles is sales and popularity take a back seat to actual ability.

#8 Posted by Buckshot (18914 posts) - - Show Bio

If they started off close enough, Spiderman could knock HT out with a quick punch since he's faster. (Hate to support Shady but it could happen and I'm trying to be fair.) Human Torch 9/10 though.

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#9 Posted by GL Bertron (3708 posts) - - Show Bio

That would also mean HT didn't already have his flames on. otherwise Spidey would melt his arm.

#10 Posted by Buckshot (18914 posts) - - Show Bio

I figured he would start in his default (no fire) state but even if he were on fire I think it would still work. Your arm doesn't catch on fire if you move it out of the flame fast enough, and Spiderman is fast enough. Doesn't matter though, arm on fire or not, he'd still knock HT out.

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#11 Posted by GL Bertron (3708 posts) - - Show Bio

True, but it would stll hurt like hell.

#12 Posted by Buckshot (18914 posts) - - Show Bio

Meh. It's the cost of victory.

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#13 Posted by GL Bertron (3708 posts) - - Show Bio

Whatever it takes to keep from being completely pwned on I guess.

#14 Posted by Dr_Gee (83 posts) - - Show Bio

whats with this shady guy..spiderman might be cooler than HT but come on HT would win this fight only if they started out like buckshot said and spiderman was close enough to knock him out then spiderman might have a chance because he is way faster and also HT would have to be serious to win

#15 Posted by Fourpower (R.I.P) (2021 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah, this fight is pretty one-sided.

#16 Posted by shady (47 posts) - - Show Bio

yea but spiderman is faster

#17 Posted by Fourpower (R.I.P) (2021 posts) - - Show Bio

Human Torch is faster, he can go faster than sound.

#18 Posted by GL Bertron (3708 posts) - - Show Bio

His reflexes aren't as good as Spider- man's. In the time it would take for him to react to the punch he would probably be unconcious already.

#19 Posted by GL Bertron (3708 posts) - - Show Bio

His reflexes aren't as good as Spider- man's. In the time it would take for him to react to the punch he would probably be unconcious already.

#20 Posted by shady (47 posts) - - Show Bio

GL Bertron yea wat this guy said

#21 Posted by CimmerianDoug (2 posts) - - Show Bio

Spiderman would have to be on top form. If he somehow made his webing heat/fire resistant (at least for a while) then he would have a chance because his webbing could stop HT for a moment for an attack also Spidey could make a very thick shield to block some firebolts. (Hey its an idea :) )


Post Edited:2007-03-18 22:02:55

#22 Posted by GL Bertron (3708 posts) - - Show Bio

Torch would win unless, like Buckshot said, Spiderman struck first and knocked him out.

#23 Posted by Ebony Bishop (767 posts) - - Show Bio

Wait, wait...Spider-man took out Firelord, who is like a supercharged version of the Torch, and you can't imagine him beating Johnny?

#24 Posted by GL Bertron (3708 posts) - - Show Bio

All out, no holding back, and no story adjustments to compensate for popularity, then no I don't.

#25 Posted by Ebony Bishop (767 posts) - - Show Bio

Yes, but when has Johnny Storm ever gone "all out, no holding back" on Spider-Man? They're friends. And Johnny doesn't kill his friends.

#26 Posted by GL Bertron (3708 posts) - - Show Bio

If they had reasons like, fight or everyon you love dies. Then what? Don't say they would work together and set them free. Just accept the conditions and go.

#27 Posted by G-Man (31619 posts) - - Show Bio

Ebony Bishop says:

"Wait, wait...Spider-man took out Firelord, who is like a supercharged version of the Torch, and you can't imagine him beating Johnny?"

Twice in one night! Here we go again.

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#28 Posted by GL Bertron (3708 posts) - - Show Bio

Next on the menu we have an ass whoopin'.

#29 Posted by G-Man (31619 posts) - - Show Bio

Woot woot!

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#30 Posted by GL Bertron (3708 posts) - - Show Bio

Wasn't that symbiot/ venom spiderman though.

#31 Posted by Sling Shot (3560 posts) - - Show Bio

Spidey is an unofficial master of guerilla war tactics using his environment and misdirection to hunt, much like (surprise!) a spider. In the city Spidey could pop up after a Kansas City shuffle and kick Torch's heart through his chest (like he was on the Authority). But in the desert Torch has a large advantage.

None of these battles should be so easily won. A well written character should stand a chance against someone within their power level. Functionally HT has not exhibited a great disparity in power over Spidey, Aside from his nova flame.
Post Edited:2007-04-06 20:36:15

#32 Posted by Pyro. (6 posts) - - Show Bio

Human tourch No Duh

#33 Posted by The WeatherMan (3214 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Spider-man. His web fluid is, well a fluid. Fluid = liquid and liquid puts out fire. He can web him up, and land a beautiful haymaker, before Johnny can reflame. Johnny isn't super strong, Spider-Man's strength is much bigger.

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#34 Posted by Captain Atom (52 posts) - - Show Bio

Spiderman's spider sense is nice and all, and his web fluid is nifty, but one supernova from Human Torch will scorch Spiderman.

#35 Posted by Captain Atom (52 posts) - - Show Bio

G-Man says:

"Ebony Bishop says:
"Wait, wait...Spider-man took out Firelord, who is like a supercharged version of the Torch, and you can't imagine him beating Johnny?"
Twice in one night! Here we go again.
" />http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/vol/3000/2127/2127-26071-1-amazing-spider-man-_400.jpg"

That is so PIS. Spiderman can not beat a Herald level person withotu PIS on his side

#36 Posted by Liverwurst (881 posts) - - Show Bio

I think Spiderman's webs are flame retardent, so if he were to web up his fists he could safely punch the torch. Plus Johnny's nova flame wears him out and he generally flames off after each burst. Finally Spidey is fast enough to dodge the torch's fireballs.

#37 Posted by Apparition (11349 posts) - - Show Bio

iceman_15 says:

"HUMAN TORCH WOULD WIN...EEVEN IF SPIDEY COULD TOUCH HIM HE WOULD GET BURNT."

spiderman would lose but he wouldn't necessarily get burned by hitting the torch. just like someone said earlier, if he just webbed torch up, he could snuff out the flame and then punch him. but i dont think he would get the chance to do it.

#38 Posted by Liverwurst (881 posts) - - Show Bio

what i forgot to mention about johnny's nova flame is that it generally takes a lot of concentration to do so spidey could KO him before he realized the threat and gathered the necessary flame
Post Edited:2007-08-02 19:49:02

#39 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

G-Man says:

"Ebony Bishop says:
"Wait, wait...Spider-man took out Firelord, who is like a supercharged version of the Torch, and you can't imagine him beating Johnny?"
Twice in one night! Here we go again.
" />http://image.comicvine.com/uploads/vol/3000/2127/2127-26071-1-amazing-spider-man-_400.jpg"

I actually have that book, I bought it like 3 days ago to see how crazy it was... Actually... it's not weird, but you can kind of believe it to an extent.

#40 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7469 posts) - - Show Bio

GL Bertron says:

"Wasn't that symbiot/ venom spiderman though."

no if it was symbiote spiderman he would get beat cause firelord is fire and symbiotes are weak against fire and sonics and i say spiderman

#41 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah Spidey might be able to pull it of. He can unload a ton of webbing on Johnny (Spidey's webbing is now unlimited if I'm not mistaken) and punch Johnny's head off.

#42 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7469 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"Yeah Spidey might be able to pull it of. He can unload a ton of webbing on Johnny (Spidey's webbing is now unlimited if I'm not mistaken) and punch Johnny's head off."

your not mistaken and even if johnny trys supernova spider sense would worn spidy and he would get the hell out of there

#43 Posted by Reject (220 posts) - - Show Bio

spiderman0409 says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
"Yeah Spidey might be able to pull it of. He can unload a ton of webbing on Johnny (Spidey's webbing is now unlimited if I'm not mistaken) and punch Johnny's head off."
your not mistaken and even if johnny trys supernova spider sense would worn spidy and he would get the hell out of there"

He'd have an awfully long way to go to get away from Torch's supernova. Too far for him to make it.

#44 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7469 posts) - - Show Bio

Reject says:

"spiderman0409 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"Yeah Spidey might be able to pull it of. He can unload a ton of webbing on Johnny (Spidey's webbing is now unlimited if I'm not mistaken) and punch Johnny's head off."
your not mistaken and even if johnny trys supernova spider sense would worn spidy and he would get the hell out of there"
He'd have an awfully long way to go to get away from Torch's supernova. Too far for him to make it."

well with web swing he is pretty fast and johnny wouldn't go all out nova cause of al the people in the city

#45 Posted by Reject (220 posts) - - Show Bio

spiderman0409 says:

"Reject says:
"spiderman0409 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"Yeah Spidey might be able to pull it of. He can unload a ton of webbing on Johnny (Spidey's webbing is now unlimited if I'm not mistaken) and punch Johnny's head off."
your not mistaken and even if johnny trys supernova spider sense would worn spidy and he would get the hell out of there"
He'd have an awfully long way to go to get away from Torch's supernova. Too far for him to make it."
well with web swing he is pretty fast and johnny wouldn't go all out nova cause of al the people in the city"

Then he'd just shoot out a cone of flame that was so wide that Spidey couldn't possibly dodge it and if Spidey tried swinging away, Torch could easily keep up with his flight and target the webbing before he targets Spidey so he can catch him in midair where it would be even less likely he would be able to dodge.

#46 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

Reject says:

"spiderman0409 says:
"Reject says:
"spiderman0409 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"Yeah Spidey might be able to pull it of. He can unload a ton of webbing on Johnny (Spidey's webbing is now unlimited if I'm not mistaken) and punch Johnny's head off."
your not mistaken and even if johnny trys supernova spider sense would worn spidy and he would get the hell out of there"
He'd have an awfully long way to go to get away from Torch's supernova. Too far for him to make it."
well with web swing he is pretty fast and johnny wouldn't go all out nova cause of al the people in the city"
Then he'd just shoot out a cone of flame that was so wide that Spidey couldn't possibly dodge it and if Spidey tried swinging away, Torch could easily keep up with his flight and target the webbing before he targets Spidey so he can catch him in midair where it would be even less likely he would be able to dodge."

Not saying Pete would win, but in fact, another possibility. Peter can web Johnny's eyes making him unable to see. for a brief period of time and Pete would be able to punch through the fire.

#47 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7469 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"Reject says:
"spiderman0409 says:
"Reject says:
"spiderman0409 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"Yeah Spidey might be able to pull it of. He can unload a ton of webbing on Johnny (Spidey's webbing is now unlimited if I'm not mistaken) and punch Johnny's head off."
your not mistaken and even if johnny trys supernova spider sense would worn spidy and he would get the hell out of there"
He'd have an awfully long way to go to get away from Torch's supernova. Too far for him to make it."
well with web swing he is pretty fast and johnny wouldn't go all out nova cause of al the people in the city"
Then he'd just shoot out a cone of flame that was so wide that Spidey couldn't possibly dodge it and if Spidey tried swinging away, Torch could easily keep up with his flight and target the webbing before he targets Spidey so he can catch him in midair where it would be even less likely he would be able to dodge."
Not saying Pete would win, but in fact, another possibility. Peter can web Johnny's eyes making him unable to see. for a brief period of time and Pete would be able to punch through the fire."

yea like in the secret wars with the venom symbiote he web johnny up and he said that this webbing is even harder to burn off so that mean the more organic webbing the harder it will be for johnny to burn off

#48 Posted by Forever (4332 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"Not saying Pete would win, but in fact, another possibility. Peter can web Johnny's eyes making him unable to see. for a brief period of time and Pete would be able to punch through the fire."

If that happened, why wouldn't Johnny just increase the heat corona around himself until the webbing evaporated? If he did that then Pete would be a fool to try and punch him. At that point Johnny could probably keep it that hot around himself for the rest of the fight, making it virtually impossible for Pete to win.

#49 Posted by The Mighty Thor (7469 posts) - - Show Bio

Eternal Chaos says:

"spiderman0409 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"Reject says:
"spiderman0409 says:
"Reject says:
"spiderman0409 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"Yeah Spidey might be able to pull it of. He can unload a ton of webbing on Johnny (Spidey's webbing is now unlimited if I'm not mistaken) and punch Johnny's head off."
your not mistaken and even if johnny trys supernova spider sense would worn spidy and he would get the hell out of there"
He'd have an awfully long way to go to get away from Torch's supernova. Too far for him to make it."
well with web swing he is pretty fast and johnny wouldn't go all out nova cause of al the people in the city"
Then he'd just shoot out a cone of flame that was so wide that Spidey couldn't possibly dodge it and if Spidey tried swinging away, Torch could easily keep up with his flight and target the webbing before he targets Spidey so he can catch him in midair where it would be even less likely he would be able to dodge."
Not saying Pete would win, but in fact, another possibility. Peter can web Johnny's eyes making him unable to see. for a brief period of time and Pete would be able to punch through the fire."
yea like in the secret wars with the venom symbiote he web johnny up and he said that this webbing is even harder to burn off so that mean the more organic webbing the harder it will be for johnny to burn off"
I think even May pulled that trick off too."

explain cause idk what your talking about

#50 Posted by Eternal Chaos (22990 posts) - - Show Bio

spiderman0409 says:

"Eternal Chaos says:
"Reject says:
"spiderman0409 says:
"Reject says:
"spiderman0409 says:
"Eternal Chaos says:
"Yeah Spidey might be able to pull it of. He can unload a ton of webbing on Johnny (Spidey's webbing is now unlimited if I'm not mistaken) and punch Johnny's head off."
your not mistaken and even if johnny trys supernova spider sense would worn spidy and he would get the hell out of there"
He'd have an awfully long way to go to get away from Torch's supernova. Too far for him to make it."
well with web swing he is pretty fast and johnny wouldn't go all out nova cause of al the people in the city"
Then he'd just shoot out a cone of flame that was so wide that Spidey couldn't possibly dodge it and if Spidey tried swinging away, Torch could easily keep up with his flight and target the webbing before he targets Spidey so he can catch him in midair where it would be even less likely he would be able to dodge."
Not saying Pete would win, but in fact, another possibility. Peter can web Johnny's eyes making him unable to see. for a brief period of time and Pete would be able to punch through the fire."
yea like in the secret wars with the venom symbiote he web johnny up and he said that this webbing is even harder to burn off so that mean the more organic webbing the harder it will be for johnny to burn off"

I think even May pulled that trick off too.