@k4tzm4n said:
@TERMINATORXX:
As far as the fight with harry goes, that was physical fighting ( mixed martial arts )
Talking about the glider sequence as well. Your point about the mask has, and always been that his costume for some reason provides protection. That's not true. That's like saying a t-shirt will protect me from a punch. It's just a costume. It in no way enhances his durability. His powers do. Please, don't reply to this by saying the Terminator is more durable because that's not the point I'm making. Clearly, the Terminator has the edge there. The point is movie Peter has proven numerous times he can take a beating, so he can indeed withstand melee attacks from the Terminator to some degree. In response to that, don't come up with some absurd and unlikely scenario like the T-800 rips out his heart easily or his guts or whatever else you'll picture in your pain. If you're using movie versions, go with what they have done, and the T-800s close combat showings simply sucked (except for in Salvation when it eventually *key word there, not immediately* struck a weak point). Furthermore, this durability advantage that the T-800 has is completely negated by the fact that Spider-Man is strong enough to damage it with strikes and even rip it apart if he chooses to. And seeing as the OP has him out for the kill, that's a very likely scenario. On top of that, his speed is vastly superior, so good luck landing any melee strikes, Arnold.
Spiderman stopping a train to me doesnt make him stronger than a T-800 for the fact he used webs and not his bare hands
I never said he's stronger. I said he's strong enough to damage the T-800 and this is true.
As far as Sandman goes Spiderman used Water to slow him down, which ko'd sandman for awhile, but didnt put him down for good...
If you re-read my post, you'll see I cited Sandman in regards to durability. I never tried to use his victory over Sandman here because it is completely unrelated and plays no role in this match. I cited when Sandman was massive and smashing Spider-Man over and over...and despite this, he still went on to battle and eventually defeat Venom. It was in regards to his durability and pain tolerance. Nothing more, nothing less.
Waters easier to get ahold of then hydrolic presses, moltein steel and nuclear weapons that can harm a T-800...Yeah as far as Nuclear devices go, He might be able to make something explosive if he thinks that way, or trys to knock the T-800 offline for 120 so he can take its cpu out and destroy it...
Or, he can use his superhuman strength to rip it apart and smack it around like a ragdoll, because he does have the strength to do so. No absurd scenarios are required for his victory. This isn't even mentioning how webbing can play a role in hindering the Terminator, either.
In a Steel Cage Match, for example in h2h, definitly TERMINATOR.
No, not really.
I realize this was likely a waste of my time and effort. You're probably going to try to argue these points (despite all of them being basic facts surrounding the character which can be confirmed by re-watching the films), but a part of me really hopes you're going to prove that statement wrong. Deep down, I hope you'll just take a moment, have an epiphany and say "you know what... maybe my bias for the Terminator franchise is getting in the way. Spider-Man should take this, despite me liking the T-800 more."
Ok I see your point, but even if Spidermans strong enough to damage a T-800, Why couldnt the T-800 be strong enough to hard him? In h2h conbat without spiderman using weapons, I don't recall Spiderman using superhuman strength either with his bare hands to lift anythng either? Me using logics like the T-800 could punch through his stomach or something and rip his heart out might be debatable, because the T-800 has also tossed humans around like ragdolls and so forth, but its like you said the T-800 is very slow and based on the op It's weaponary, the T-800's prep doesnt really suck all that much, he used a grenade blast night I mentioned that blew the T-1000 apart... He used his own fuel cell to destroy the T-X. During the road rage in T1, When reese was throwing pipe bombs out the window, TERMINATOR actually shot him ( which is why reese died. ) and the T-800 hardley ever misses when he shoots someone who something, unless they'redriving of course, but he never missed hits when he was shooting at the T-1000 for example or those cops in the police station shoot out...If the T-800 knows what hes up against, I don't see why he couldnt stand a chance against peter, but then again the op doesnt say movie version of Spiderman so we really shouldnt argue this, I just never saw Spiderman use any weapons that are deadly enough to damage a T-800, cause its like I said the only thing we know can damage a T-800 is explosive weapons, heavy machinery and extreme heat, but sandman is made of sand, I highley doubt if hes as strong as a T-800 for the fact the T-800 is made of some titanium armor and has hydrolics and hydrolics and lift and pull alot more than just regular metal...
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