- current version of spider-man - current version of hawkman - morals on - win by KO or death - both know each others abilities - standard gear for both - battle takes place on great wall of china 100 yards away from each other
Spider-Man vs Hawkman
He doesn't need buildings to move around...
He can use his webbing to maneuver around in a variety of ways (even on the Great Wall of China).
I don't really know much about Hawkman but didn't Deathstroke own him and some of JLA at one point? DS didn't look like he had any specific prep he just used physical attacks. Why couldn't Spider-man do the same? Anyone who knows more about Hawkman feel free to correct me because as I said I don't follow him at all.
Massive pis. Deathstroke in the same showing broke though kyles shields. Those things have allowed green lanterns to take assaults from superman and other beings on his level.I don't really know much about Hawkman but didn't Deathstroke own him and some of JLA at one point? DS didn't look like he had any specific prep he just used physical attacks. Why couldn't Spider-man do the same? Anyone who knows more about Hawkman feel free to correct me because as I said I don't follow him at all.
@jashro44 said:
@Strider92 said:Massive pis. Deathstroke in the same showing broke though kyles shields. Those things have allowed green lanterns to take assaults from superman and other beings on his level.I don't really know much about Hawkman but didn't Deathstroke own him and some of JLA at one point? DS didn't look like he had any specific prep he just used physical attacks. Why couldn't Spider-man do the same? Anyone who knows more about Hawkman feel free to correct me because as I said I don't follow him at all.
No he didn't. (Assuming you're referring to Identity Crisis) Kyle threw a punch, Deathstroke caught it, then proceeded to break his fingers....
You are right...For some reason I thought he had his force fields up. Still pis.@jashro44 said:
@Strider92 said:
Massive pis. Deathstroke in the same showing broke though kyles shields. Those things have allowed green lanterns to take assaults from superman and other beings on his level.I don't really know much about Hawkman but didn't Deathstroke own him and some of JLA at one point? DS didn't look like he had any specific prep he just used physical attacks. Why couldn't Spider-man do the same? Anyone who knows more about Hawkman feel free to correct me because as I said I don't follow him at all.
No he didn't. (Assuming you're referring to Identity Crisis) Kyle threw a punch, and Deathstroke caught it, then proceeded to break his fingers....
@Joygirl said:
Spidey will win due to webbing I think. Also I'm pretty sure he's physically superior to Hawkman... he can fan a web out and gunk his wings up, if nothing else.
He's at least twice as strong being a 10 tonner vs HM being at 5. Add precog and insane agility?
Spidey takes it.
@XiiX said:
No he didn't. (Assuming you're referring to Identity Crisis) Kyle threw a punch, Deathstroke caught it, then proceeded to break his fingers....
Yeah that was the incident I was referring to.
Hawkman is one of my favorites and much more experienced fighter since he's been around since the 40's(and was reincarnated), but Spider-Man has experience with winged foes(Vulture), and has strength, spider-sense, and agility on his side. Spidey takes it, but a tough and I mean tough fight.
@jashro44 said:
@Strider92 said:Massive pis. Deathstroke in the same showing broke though kyles shields. Those things have allowed green lanterns to take assaults from superman and other beings on his level.I don't really know much about Hawkman but didn't Deathstroke own him and some of JLA at one point? DS didn't look like he had any specific prep he just used physical attacks. Why couldn't Spider-man do the same? Anyone who knows more about Hawkman feel free to correct me because as I said I don't follow him at all.
No it wasn't.
@spiderbuck said:
@Joygirl said:
Spidey will win due to webbing I think. Also I'm pretty sure he's physically superior to Hawkman... he can fan a web out and gunk his wings up, if nothing else.He's at least twice as strong being a 10 tonner vs HM being at 5. Add precog and insane agility?
Spidey takes it.
I agree with this
@jashro44 said:
@ReVamp: not pis? why?
Well he didn't really do anything out of the realms of possibility (except perhaps tagging Flash):
@Strider92 said:
@jashro44 said:
@ReVamp: not pis? why?Well he didn't really do anything out of the realms of possibility (except perhaps tagging Flash):
- He didn't tag the Flash. The Flash walked into his Sword.
- Green Lantern didn't attack him because his friends were in the line of fire, and when he got the chance Slade did his thing.
Hawkman FTW. Been reading up on him. He has WAY better fighting ability, flight at 200+ mph, N'th Metal Weapons and Armor that are comparable to Uru, 5 - 100+ ton strength, his strength feats vary from hard fighting normal humans, to KO'ing Superman! No to mention Hawkman has superior healing and VASTLY superior durability (taking full force blows from Black Adam!) Hawkman wins here, atleast 6+/10. Lastly, if Hawkman has the "Claw of Horus", Spidey's DEAD!
The Vulture/Hawkman comparisons are irrelevant and I'm not even sure why they're brought up, considering Hawkman is a way better fighter, is stronger, more durable and has better healing. Just because they both fly doesn't mean it's like fighting the same character.
I believe Spider-Man would take this but it wouldn't be easy.
You guys obviously don't know Hawkman's skills and feats. Hawkman is vastly underappreciated and threads on street level fighters beating Hawkman just plain upset me. Hawkman's healing factor + his crazy durability, brushing off all types of hits throughout his JL career, would make all of spiderman's hits almost useless. And yes, i'm fully aware of just how strong Spiderman's hits are. Not only his durability, but his strength far exeeds Spiderman's durability. This fight is barely even fair. And as for Spiderman webbing up Hawkman like that's the end of it, Rhino breaks free of spiderman's webs regularly, so Hawkman would be no different. I'm not saying the fight is completely one-sided, Spiderman is a great fighter and definitely smarter than Hawkman, but not a huge threat. Especially not in this environment. Spidey doesn't NEED buildings to be a fighter, but they assist him greatly in moving around and if the fight was in a city he would be able to hit flying Hawkman much easier. But it's not in the city, so i'm giving this battle to the king of manly 100% testosterone, Hawkman
@rootsunderdog: do not forget the several beating Batman gave him over the years. And they were all well deserved. Hawkman is the older hero(Older than the big Three), but he is more unwieldy than underrated. Hawk girl is gettin some serious love from Earth 2. And Hawkwoman was much more popular than Hawkman in the old DCU. The constant upgrades feel fake. And his new attitude was a mentally dosturbed ersatz Wolverine.
And taking hits from Black Adam while wearing Nth metal would be like Deathstroke taking a hit from Superman while wearing armor made entirely out of gold Kryptonite. Not a ring, a full on body armor of Kryptonite.
And Spiderman is a 25 tonner by feats. Even on the Great Wall, he should have the means for a majority.
@_slim_ said:
Spider-Man.
Hawkman FTW. He can certainly shake off Spider-Man's non-held back punches and still maintain his fighting level. Spider-Man's alternative to his fists would be the webs but I don't regard this a remarkable threat either considering Carter's abilitiy to create weapons out of Nth Metal "out of nowhere". Not that'd come to that scenario quickly, if at all, due to Hawkman's insanely fast reaction time to bullets and blocking them. The last but not least factor about this is, that the battle must end in a KO or Death which makes the task significantly more difficult for Peter, conversely favoring Hawkman because he has multiton punches, wing strikes to provide great reach/alternatives, piercing and blunt force weapons to wear the web-head down the only problem being the Spider-Sense which makes it tricky.
Oh, and Vulture is not remotely on an equal footing with Hawkman in regards to versatility, power-level and damage soaking abilities. The comparison isn't valid.
@kid_high: This is Hawkman not Hawkeye.
@foxerdes: Yeah Fox, you're right. He is one of the less known characters and is quite underrated, you can discern that from the CV battle threads.
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