#1 Posted by DedrabbiT (588 posts) - - Show Bio

- current version of spider-man - current version of hawkman - morals on - win by KO or death - both know each others abilities - standard gear for both - battle takes place on great wall of china 100 yards away from each other

#2 Posted by PeterParked (61 posts) - - Show Bio

Just read on hawkman based on what we have hear, assuming it isn't hyperbole, he takes the win.

#3 Posted by _slim_ (13268 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-Man.

#4 Posted by DedrabbiT (588 posts) - - Show Bio

Why? Here spiderman doesn't have all those building to swing from.

#5 Posted by _slim_ (13268 posts) - - Show Bio

As if he needs buildings to swing from to win...lol

#6 Posted by DedrabbiT (588 posts) - - Show Bio

It sure helps him maneuver around.

#7 Posted by _slim_ (13268 posts) - - Show Bio

He doesn't need buildings to move around...

He can use his webbing to maneuver around in a variety of ways (even on the Great Wall of China).

#8 Posted by Strider92 (16737 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't really know much about Hawkman but didn't Deathstroke own him and some of JLA at one point? DS didn't look like he had any specific prep he just used physical attacks. Why couldn't Spider-man do the same? Anyone who knows more about Hawkman feel free to correct me because as I said I don't follow him at all.

#9 Posted by DedrabbiT (588 posts) - - Show Bio

I know he doesn't.... I'm just saying a city is where he is most at home. Of course he is agile and fast and can use his legs to move.... Can you explain why else you think he wins? It is in character.

#10 Posted by jashro44 (22934 posts) - - Show Bio
@Strider92 said:

I don't really know much about Hawkman but didn't Deathstroke own him and some of JLA at one point? DS didn't look like he had any specific prep he just used physical attacks. Why couldn't Spider-man do the same? Anyone who knows more about Hawkman feel free to correct me because as I said I don't follow him at all.

Massive pis. Deathstroke in the same showing broke though kyles shields. Those things have allowed green lanterns to take assaults from superman and other beings on his level.
#11 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

@_slim_ said:

Spider-Man.

#12 Edited by XiiX (8741 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

@Strider92 said:

I don't really know much about Hawkman but didn't Deathstroke own him and some of JLA at one point? DS didn't look like he had any specific prep he just used physical attacks. Why couldn't Spider-man do the same? Anyone who knows more about Hawkman feel free to correct me because as I said I don't follow him at all.

Massive pis. Deathstroke in the same showing broke though kyles shields. Those things have allowed green lanterns to take assaults from superman and other beings on his level.

No he didn't. (Assuming you're referring to Identity Crisis) Kyle threw a punch, Deathstroke caught it, then proceeded to break his fingers....

#13 Posted by DedrabbiT (588 posts) - - Show Bio

Hawkman has around 5 ton strength, pretty damn durable, healing factor caused by Nth metal, high combat skills, flight and his mace. I think he can take spider-man in a tough battle.

#14 Edited by jashro44 (22934 posts) - - Show Bio
@XiiX said:

@jashro44 said:

@Strider92 said:

I don't really know much about Hawkman but didn't Deathstroke own him and some of JLA at one point? DS didn't look like he had any specific prep he just used physical attacks. Why couldn't Spider-man do the same? Anyone who knows more about Hawkman feel free to correct me because as I said I don't follow him at all.

Massive pis. Deathstroke in the same showing broke though kyles shields. Those things have allowed green lanterns to take assaults from superman and other beings on his level.

No he didn't. (Assuming you're referring to Identity Crisis) Kyle threw a punch, and Deathstroke caught it, then proceeded to break his fingers....

You are right...For some reason I thought he had his force fields up. Still pis.
#15 Posted by The Stegman (25073 posts) - - Show Bio

Spidey

#16 Posted by Manchine (4184 posts) - - Show Bio

Without webbing hawkman up. Hawkman takes it due to being a very skilled fighter. With spidermans webbing spiderman takes this.

#17 Posted by DedrabbiT (588 posts) - - Show Bio

Do you think hawkman can dodge and evade enough webbing to where spidey runs out?

#18 Posted by Video_Martian (5645 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-Man

#19 Posted by Joygirl (20063 posts) - - Show Bio

Spidey will win due to webbing I think. Also I'm pretty sure he's physically superior to Hawkman... he can fan a web out and gunk his wings up, if nothing else.

#20 Posted by spiderbuck (2454 posts) - - Show Bio

@Joygirl said:

Spidey will win due to webbing I think. Also I'm pretty sure he's physically superior to Hawkman... he can fan a web out and gunk his wings up, if nothing else.

He's at least twice as strong being a 10 tonner vs HM being at 5. Add precog and insane agility?

Spidey takes it.

#21 Posted by Strider92 (16737 posts) - - Show Bio

@XiiX said:

No he didn't. (Assuming you're referring to Identity Crisis) Kyle threw a punch, Deathstroke caught it, then proceeded to break his fingers....

Yeah that was the incident I was referring to.

#22 Posted by wrestlgurl (31 posts) - - Show Bio

Hawkman is one of my favorites and much more experienced fighter since he's been around since the 40's(and was reincarnated), but Spider-Man has experience with winged foes(Vulture), and has strength, spider-sense, and agility on his side. Spidey takes it, but a tough and I mean tough fight.

#23 Posted by DedrabbiT (588 posts) - - Show Bio

I feel as though if spiderman did web him and pull him in hawkman may be able to get one good hit in with his mace and that could really be lights out.

#24 Posted by kajitatsu (532 posts) - - Show Bio

Hawkman's supposed to have really powerful armor/weapons but I think Spider-man would neutralise his flight with webbing. It would also be hard to land a hit on Spider-man since he's got better speed and Spider sense, so I think Spider-man should take the majority.

#25 Posted by Deranged Midget (17723 posts) - - Show Bio

Spiderman has already dealt with fliers before (Vulture). He should have no trouble with Hawkman.

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#26 Posted by ReVamp (22865 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

@Strider92 said:

I don't really know much about Hawkman but didn't Deathstroke own him and some of JLA at one point? DS didn't look like he had any specific prep he just used physical attacks. Why couldn't Spider-man do the same? Anyone who knows more about Hawkman feel free to correct me because as I said I don't follow him at all.

Massive pis. Deathstroke in the same showing broke though kyles shields. Those things have allowed green lanterns to take assaults from superman and other beings on his level.

No it wasn't.

#27 Posted by Bo88gdan (4415 posts) - - Show Bio

Spiderman ftw

#28 Posted by SpidermanWins (3982 posts) - - Show Bio

@spiderbuck said:

@Joygirl said:

Spidey will win due to webbing I think. Also I'm pretty sure he's physically superior to Hawkman... he can fan a web out and gunk his wings up, if nothing else.

He's at least twice as strong being a 10 tonner vs HM being at 5. Add precog and insane agility?

Spidey takes it.

I agree with this

#29 Posted by jashro44 (22934 posts) - - Show Bio
@ReVamp: not pis? why?
#30 Posted by ReVamp (22865 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

@ReVamp: not pis? why?

Identity Crisis? It wasn't PIS at all.

#31 Posted by Shawnbaby (10867 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-Man is Stronger, Faster, has Spider-Sense, and plenty of experience fighting flyers. Even considering that you are trying to put them in a scenario where you think Hawkman has the advantage...Spider-Man takes him down hard without really breaking a sweat.

#32 Posted by Strider92 (16737 posts) - - Show Bio

@jashro44 said:

@ReVamp: not pis? why?

Well he didn't really do anything out of the realms of possibility (except perhaps tagging Flash):

#33 Posted by BatWatch (2812 posts) - - Show Bio

Spiderman beats the ever living shit out of Hawkman, hands down. Hawkman is not without merit, but he has no distance weapons. All spidey has to do is wait for him to attack and then use his superior speed and strength to tear him a new one. Easy win.

#34 Posted by jashro44 (22934 posts) - - Show Bio
@Strider92: I find it hard to believe all it takes to beat the justice league is a laser pointer, a few well placed explosives and a broad sword. I would think darksied or braniac or anyone else with much more then that would do it pretty easily. I can respect deathstroke being better then every one there (with the exception of green lantern, flash and the atom) but that easily is a little bit much.
#35 Posted by ReVamp (22865 posts) - - Show Bio

@Strider92 said:

@jashro44 said:

@ReVamp: not pis? why?

Well he didn't really do anything out of the realms of possibility (except perhaps tagging Flash):

  • He didn't tag the Flash. The Flash walked into his Sword.
  • Green Lantern didn't attack him because his friends were in the line of fire, and when he got the chance Slade did his thing.
#36 Posted by DeathsHead2 (1625 posts) - - Show Bio

Hawkman FTW. Been reading up on him. He has WAY better fighting ability, flight at 200+ mph, N'th Metal Weapons and Armor that are comparable to Uru, 5 - 100+ ton strength, his strength feats vary from hard fighting normal humans, to KO'ing Superman! No to mention Hawkman has superior healing and VASTLY superior durability (taking full force blows from Black Adam!) Hawkman wins here, atleast 6+/10. Lastly, if Hawkman has the "Claw of Horus", Spidey's DEAD!

#37 Posted by XiiX (8741 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-Man.

#38 Posted by Lone_Wolf_and_Cub (5138 posts) - - Show Bio

Spidey stomps Hawkmans lame ass.

#39 Edited by CF12793 (2993 posts) - - Show Bio

The Vulture/Hawkman comparisons are irrelevant and I'm not even sure why they're brought up, considering Hawkman is a way better fighter, is stronger, more durable and has better healing. Just because they both fly doesn't mean it's like fighting the same character.

I believe Spider-Man would take this but it wouldn't be easy.

#40 Posted by RootsUnderdog (235 posts) - - Show Bio

You guys obviously don't know Hawkman's skills and feats. Hawkman is vastly underappreciated and threads on street level fighters beating Hawkman just plain upset me. Hawkman's healing factor + his crazy durability, brushing off all types of hits throughout his JL career, would make all of spiderman's hits almost useless. And yes, i'm fully aware of just how strong Spiderman's hits are. Not only his durability, but his strength far exeeds Spiderman's durability. This fight is barely even fair. And as for Spiderman webbing up Hawkman like that's the end of it, Rhino breaks free of spiderman's webs regularly, so Hawkman would be no different. I'm not saying the fight is completely one-sided, Spiderman is a great fighter and definitely smarter than Hawkman, but not a huge threat. Especially not in this environment. Spidey doesn't NEED buildings to be a fighter, but they assist him greatly in moving around and if the fight was in a city he would be able to hit flying Hawkman much easier. But it's not in the city, so i'm giving this battle to the king of manly 100% testosterone, Hawkman

#41 Posted by senglord (1580 posts) - - Show Bio

@rootsunderdog: do not forget the several beating Batman gave him over the years. And they were all well deserved. Hawkman is the older hero(Older than the big Three), but he is more unwieldy than underrated. Hawk girl is gettin some serious love from Earth 2. And Hawkwoman was much more popular than Hawkman in the old DCU. The constant upgrades feel fake. And his new attitude was a mentally dosturbed ersatz Wolverine.

And taking hits from Black Adam while wearing Nth metal would be like Deathstroke taking a hit from Superman while wearing armor made entirely out of gold Kryptonite. Not a ring, a full on body armor of Kryptonite.

And Spiderman is a 25 tonner by feats. Even on the Great Wall, he should have the means for a majority.

#42 Posted by senglord (1580 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump.

#43 Posted by Clark_EL (2667 posts) - - Show Bio
#44 Posted by MonsterStomp (19358 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-Man