Spider-Man vs Arkham City

3 months is a lot, and having his powers and that stuff, except in the rhas al ghul part, i dont know if he could pass that,

Spider-Man has his spider-sense, so a number of things that took Batman by surprise won't happen. Spidey is also leaps and bounds above Bruce in terms of strength and agility. That shark that attacked Batman at the ice berg lounge? Yeah, he'd break it's face with his bare fists. Spidey would also never get caught by Joker, so he'd never get injected with that infected blood thus never have to even face Ra's like Batman did. I do question if Parker would be able to rescue the hostages Riddler kidnapped though. I'd pay to see that kind of story unfold.

Spider-Man wins easily. The only credible threat to Spidey in the entire game is Clayface...and if he gets all his gear he will have his Cryo-Spiders.

He doesn't need the Iron Spider.

Stops at Riddler.

@Ultimate_Riddler said:

Spider-Man has his spider-sense, so a number of things that took Batman by surprise won't happen. Spidey is also leaps and bounds above Bruce in terms of strength and agility. That shark that attacked Batman at the ice berg lounge? Yeah, he'd break it's face with his bare fists. Spidey would also never get caught by Joker, so he'd never get injected with that infected blood thus never have to even face Ra's like Batman did. I do question if Parker would be able to rescue the hostages Riddler kidnapped though. I'd pay to see that kind of story unfold.

I don't think the Riddler's hostages would be any trouble at all. I mean, I'm not Batman...and I figured out those traps. Te only thing Batman had to his advantage there that Spidey wouldn't necessarily have was his hacking...and that was usually only to overcome obstacles Spidey could find other ways around. Wall-Crawling FTW

I think the toughest challenge would be the "Identity Theft" missions simply because Spidey doesn't have the "Crime Scene" setup...But, even with all that, Batman still needed Oracle to out the whole thing together...so under the same conditions Spidey is under here (no outside help)...he would also have failed to uncover the killer. Not that it really mattered anyway.

@Shawnbaby: So did I. If it were comic book Nigma written to be a challenge for the real Batman, and he had time to prepare for the wall crawler, THEN it would be a fun story to see unfold. Out of curiosity, did you die at either of those deathtrap rooms Riddler had set up?

@Ultimate_Riddler said:

@Shawnbaby: So did I. If it were comic book Nigma written to be a challenge for the real Batman, and he had time to prepare for the wall crawler, THEN it would be a fun story to see unfold. Out of curiosity, did you die at either of those deathtrap rooms Riddler had set up?

I did...but only because I found them before i had all the right upgrades.

Comic Book Riddler would have no real interest in Spidey though...he is not touted as "The World's Greatest Detective". He wouldn't have to prove he is Smarter than him.

@Shawnbaby said:

@Ultimate_Riddler said:

@Shawnbaby: So did I. If it were comic book Nigma written to be a challenge for the real Batman, and he had time to prepare for the wall crawler, THEN it would be a fun story to see unfold. Out of curiosity, did you die at either of those deathtrap rooms Riddler had set up?

I did...but only because I found them before i had all the right upgrades.

Same here. XD Nigma is such a cheater. Recall his (I think it was second hostage) room where you had to pick which door the hostage was behind?

@Ultimate_Riddler said:

@Shawnbaby said:

@Ultimate_Riddler said:

@Shawnbaby: So did I. If it were comic book Nigma written to be a challenge for the real Batman, and he had time to prepare for the wall crawler, THEN it would be a fun story to see unfold. Out of curiosity, did you die at either of those deathtrap rooms Riddler had set up?

I did...but only because I found them before i had all the right upgrades.

Same here. XD Nigma is such a cheater. Recall his (I think it was second hostage) room where you had to pick which door the hostage was behind?

Yeah...Without a Spider-Sense Spidey would likely lose that one. Also, If he were to use the Iron Spider suit...I'm pretty sure it had the capabilities to help Spidey there as well. I might be mistaken though...hard to remember everything the suit could do...he didn't have it very long.

Spider-Man ftw

Spiderman wrecks

Spider-Man wins because he is superior (strength, speed, literally every physicality). The mental obstacles he'll have to overcome can be figured out in his prep.

He stop against Riddler/Clayface.

@Alexander505 said:

He stop against Riddler/Clayface.

@DarkKnightDetective said:

He stops at riddler, ra's al ghul, where he has to retrace the bullet or use detective skills. (he has no feats of using detective tech or skills so don't even think about it)

Riddler's "Riddles" in Arkham City were not difficult. One did not have to be "The World's Greatest Detective" to figure them out. I'm not Batman and I figured them out just fine. Spider-Man will too.

The OP states that Spider-Man can get the Iron Spider Suit...so he does indeed have the tech...in fact...he's got Better Tech than Batman had.

Ra's did nothing impressive that Spider-Man couldn't counter.

Spider-Man's standard gear includes Cryo-Spiders...so he can take Clayface down the same way Batman did.

He also gets 3 months of prep...which Batman did not have.

@DarkKnightDetective said:

@Shawnbaby: Do you have any scans showing Spider-man using his detective skills and detective tech on the Iron Spider suit?

Arkham City did not require extensive Detective skills.

Upon reading the OP I think that with the armor and all he wouldn't get sick at all, even if he did he would be able to resist it more and Peter is smart but I doubt he would be able to do alot of things Bats did in AC. He would've not being able to find the Lazarus Pit, pinpoint Deadshot before killing Jack Ryder, save the kidnapped people from Riddler and trace Hush and Szasz. Among other things.

Post got all screwed up somehow while editing it.

Anyway@DarkKnightDetective said:

@Shawnbaby: You're avoiding the question, Do you have any proof of Spider-man being a skilled detective or having detective tech that can help him solve riddler's challenges? and saying that it did not require extensive detective skills is a understatement because you interrogated the riddler henchmen and you had comic book knowledge.

I'm not avoiding the question....the question is immaterial. Advanced detective skills were not necessary. Those riddles could have, and have been, solved by children. They were not complicated.

As for Tech...The iron Spider has :

Fabricated with advanced protein-scale nano-technology and exotic materials handling, LEP skin display, impact sensing armor integrated life support ant all-spectrum communications powered by a hybrid opto-electronic computer and using super conducting, high performance plastic throughout, the Iron Spider Costume is truly one of Stark's greatest works (and Peter's most functional costume).

• Spinnerette/Stinger Access Ports: Through development of nano-crystal growth topology, this suit grow numerous configurations. It allows full interface from any surface, independent of occupant when necessary, and due to this design ports auto dilate to allow organics to pass. This includes Spider-Man's natural Webbing and Stingers.

• Waldoes: The Iron Spider Armor possessed three mechanical spider-arms, or "waldoes," created from rapidly grown mono-atomic iron alloy crystal. These could be used to see around corners (via cameras in the tips) and to manipulate objects indirectly. When in the stowed position, the arms remain within the gold "circle" on Spider-Man's back. These arms are rapidly grown at the rate of 90 inches per second, Hollow construction allows for all material to be stored within the small back-mounted pack, and the command for growth is achieved via fast neural net-detection and amplification. The waldoes even have small grippers at the tips working as pseudo fingers.

• Glider Device: It could glide via mesh webbing on its arms. The pseudo web form is a biodegradable filament generator. This allows for controlled gliding. Near invisible gossamer filaments extend for 20 meters- rapid growth and detachment.

• Enhanced Chestpiece: A foamed titanium nitrile fabric chestpiece has body contoured and articulated panels to support the occupant. The chestpiece contains the highest concentration of Kasimir Plate Batteries-- nano-scale power generating devices that exploit "zero point" energy. Can generate 1.2kWatts at peak demand.

• Mask Filter: A self-cleaning electrostatic precipitation system allows for full Nuclear, Biological and Chemical Filtration. It also had an 8 minutes worth compressed air capacity, which helped in situations underwater.

• Enhanced Lenses: The Headpiece contains large area holographic lensing to allow for long eye-relief and panoramic real-world/-time viewing. Includes several optical spectrum modes with synthesized information overlay.

• Constituent Costume Containment: Part of the costume could detach itself to cover an object too dangerous to touch, such as a radioactive asteroid.

• Multifunctional Layers: The Iron Spider Armor has a total of 17 layers throughout its workings, with each performing a different, separate and important function.

@DarkKnightDetective said:

@Shawnbaby: No they couldn't have been solved by children you require a higher intelelct to do so. Yet you can't seem to able to show me any feats of Spider-man being a detective. and yes while I am aware of the fact that Spider-man can make threats it wouldn't be as effective as it is with Batman. also what makes you think that Spider-man can escape the mad hatter's hats and for him to find Hush's hideout and identity.

No you did not need an advanced intellect to solve those riddles...millions of people all over the world have solved those riddles...they were not difficult.

@DarkKnightDetective said:

@Shawnbaby: yeah but those million of people are playing a videogame and most of them have probably used the online guides.

And Spider-Man is going through the exact same videogame..solving the exact same riddles.

@DarkKnightDetective said:

@Shawnbaby: so you are saying that somehow Spider-man is going to access a online guide? It would be a valid argument if this was Deadpool. and again how is Spider-man going to resist the mad hatter's hat and find hush's hideout, while yes I did read that the mask has different optical lenses it never stated that it could find traces of blood or identify fingerprints.

He doesn't need the guide. I didn't need the guide.

@DarkKnightDetective said:

@Shawnbaby: and you collected all the riddles? and what about the other two arguments that I presented?

@laflux: Spock?

Yes...I have all the riddles... I haven't yet accomplished all of the Physical Challenges...but i collected all the trophies (not all of catwoman's yet) and solved all the riddles.

He might have trouble with the Deadshot and identity theft missions simply because, according to the OP, he doesn't get any outside help...and even Batman needed Oracle to assist with those missions.

If Spider-Man gets access to Oracle...he's got the tech he needs to solve those missions. Even if he fails the Identity theft mission....it's not like Bruce really accomplished anything there anyway. The Killer gets away and Bruce makes a note of it. That's all that happens there.

Although, following the OP, Spider-Man only has to survive Arkham City. The side missions were all completely optional.

By SpOck he meant that Current Spider-Man is actually Doc Ock in Peter's Body. He still has all of Peter's Memories though. So now basically he has 2 geniuses in his head.

@DarkKnightDetective said:

He stops at riddler, ra's al ghul, where he has to retrace the bullet or use detective skills. (he has no feats of using detective tech or skills so don't even think about it)

I agree!

@DarkKnightDetective said:

@Shawnbaby: So does he survive the mad hatter? Because as I remember Spider-man usually looses against psychic attacks. And If I am correct Spider-man usually does horrible against Bullseye, let alone Deadshot who is a better marksman that Bullseye.

As for better Marksman...that is debatable...and written properly Spider-Man should not have trouble with Bullseye either...He's got Spider-Sense.

And Spider-Man has beaten Mind Control before...so it's not inconceivable he could do it again...especially considering the game is really unclear as to how Batman beat it so easily anyway. Also, The Iron Spider Mask has protection against Mechanical intrusion...so its very likely the Mask would be completely ineffective anyway

Spidey stops against Riddler - Mad Hatter - Clayface, and it is not able to find Deadshot.

@DarkKnightDetective said:

@Shawnbaby said:

As for better Marksman...that is debatable...and written properly Spider-Man should not have trouble with Bullseye either...He's got Spider-Sense.

No it isn't, Deadshot has shown to be able to shoot speedsters.

And Spider-Man has beaten Mind Control before...so it's not inconceivable he could do it again...especially considering the game is really unclear as to how Batman beat it so easily anyway. Also, The Iron Spider Mask has protection against Mechanical intrusion...so its very likely the Mask would be completely ineffective anyway

feats or proof?

Super-Conducting Plastic Opto-Electrical Hybrid Computer 4.2 Teraflop Speed CPU: Proprietary Stark Industries Operating System. Multi-decision making sub-routine strategy prevents tech attack. Suit is semi-autonomous when unoccupied. Passcode activated lockdown.

I don't have any scans for it currently but in Spider-Man Disassembled he was under the control of The Queen, who could control him because he has the insect gene, eventually he was able to break free of her hold on him however.

@DarkKnightDetective said:

@Shawnbaby: and what about Deadshot? or Ra's Al Ghul, as I remember he or the webbing can't touch the ground or any other surface besides the blue area on the second part of the challenge.

The Iron Spider Suit has Gliding Ability. and you could use the grapple during that part anyway.

Deadshot is not that difficult...all you had to do was get behind him when his back was turned.

Physically, Spider-Man is Superior in every conceivable way to Batman...If batman can do it physically...so can Spider-man.

Spiderman wins with ease

@DarkKnightDetective said:

@Shawnbaby: then again does the Iron-Spider suit have stealth mode and feats of Spider-man using it?

Light Emitting Plastic Layer: Allows for camouflage(but the darker the surface that spider-man blends to the better the the camoflarge )and also allows spider-man to change the colour and style of his suit(e.g. he change it to the sybiote suit coulour and his normal red and blue and back) and yes...he has used it.

Are we done here?