Spider-man & Kaine VS RWBY

Spider-Man & Kaine

Rules

• Morals are off and both sides are trying to win
• This is scarlet spider kaine, I just used that picture because its cool
• Kaine cannot turn into his full other transformation or use the stealth suit
• The RWBY team gets all season and trailer feats
• Win by death or KO
• Random Encounter

Location

• Begin visible
• Begin 50 feet apart
• Fight takes place here:

Who wins and why?

Disclaimer: I'm making this match for a friend.

Here are feats for the RWBY team:

Going with the spidermen till otherwise

spidermen

I am pretty sure RWBY have the speed, durability, strength, and skill to fight this. They also have special powers (like Ruby's super speed, Weiss Glyphs, yang's increased strength, or Blakes shadow clones) to turn the tide. They also have various magic attacks. Not to mention insane skill.

well Kaine not able to reach full power will be sort of a hindrance to spiderman

One of these days I am going to actually watch RWBY.

@Wyldsong it a pretty fun show

Spiderman solos, it's hilarious how much of a gap there is between him and a group of teenagers with little to no powers (Blake being the only one with an actual superhuman ability, and it still isn't enough to beat spiderman)

Also, lets be honest here, Spiderman is pretty strong even with his morals (If memory serves me correctly, Spiderman will not kill willingly unless under extreme circumstances), so with morals off, Spiderman will end this quickly. Basically only ruby herself stands a chance here, and even still Spiderman wins. I have no idea who Kaine is.

I have heard that before, and the funny thing is, about 3-4 hours ago, I was about to watch it, but got interrupted. I'll try again here in a bit.

@wyldsong: It's OK. 6.5/10, IMO.

As long as it breaks the 5 mark, I am all in=)

@wyldsong

One of these days I am going to actually watch RWBY.

Kaine is spider-mans clone. He is faster and stronger but lacks spider-sense. He is as agile as Peter but he doesn't use his agility the same way or as much (my theory is due to his lack of spider-sense he isn't as spatially aware). He has a solid pain tolerance, stingers as well, and organic webbing.

Here is a respect thread if you want to check it out:

http://www.comicvine.com/profile/strider92/blog/kainescarlet-spider-respect-thread/88727/

Just scroll down to the scarlet spider section. His powers have changed since the classic era so you can ignore the stuff on classic kaine.

Wtfness is RWBY?

from what i can tell 4 extremely dangerous hot chicks... think x-23 but not necessarily statutory r***

Team RWBY is 4 chicks in the business of killing things. Think Hogwarts with people train to kill monsters or used for wars. Instead of wizards they are hunters.

Every Hunter has access to Aura.

With Aura they can use Super Strength, Bursts of Speed, and Durability.

Episode 1 of Season two perfectly showcases these basic powers. Able to tank easy 10 toner blows, and able to hit with 10+ toner force and in some feats 20+ tons. They all however have access to customise weapons that can transform into blades of choice or guns. Weiss weapon is used to cast magical abilities from Dust.

Add to the basic super human attributes of Arua, and the magical weapons they have, they also have unique powers (X-men style). Examples is Ruby as seen in the Food Fight has super human speed that is way faster than the bursts of speeds the rest have. Yang (blonde) has special power of getting stronger the more damage she tanks. Blake (Black Hair) has a Shadow Clone she can create to aid attacks. Weiss has Glyphs that propel targets at super speeds in a direction (thing Mayday Parker but better.)

Finally all these "kids" have been train in fighting schools how to kick *ss since they were first able to go to school.

So the show is rather cool and unique. Watch the first season, and trailers. Only 3 hours worth of awesome. They have 10 episodes of Season two I seen so far as well.

I can imagine Spidey trolling Ruby & Wiess so hard.

Ends in Group Sex.

@lukehero: Just like everything in life

Anyways, RWBY wins.

@shot: The sex?

@frisky4: nonono. I Solo stomp RWBY in the sex part.

Based on yesterday's episode, I see no problem with claiming that Peter and Kaine could solo the RWBY girls handily. Spoiler blocked for those who haven't seen it:

Honestly, if you took Peter or Kaine out, the other would still have a good chance of beating RWBY.

@lvenger: I was... very confused on the whole episode that was just released. it contradicts many episodes before it.

Examples.

In this fight with no morals on, they are as likely to kill the Spiders with killing blows instead holding back with their thick tree cutting blades.

All in all there is PIS from establish feats before that episode. It was still fun to watch, but kinda a let down by making this uber cast of characters look weaker than they ever had.

@h3dora101:

I'm hardly convinced by your suggestion that the RWBY team stands any kind of chance of speed blitzing Spider-Man and Kaine. Kaine has tagged speedsters before in his Scarlet Spider series and Peter's Spider Sense is going to make it very hard for the girls to speedblitz him. Given that Peter has tagged Quicksilver and Speed Demon before, I fail to see how the girls will do any better. And their tree cutting blades won't touch the superhuman agility, reflexes and in Peter's case, Spider Sense of the spiders. They stomp the girls here and even if you took one of them out, it would still be a hard fight for RWBY.

@lvenger: Where is the tweets of Monty, I love to see those truth be tell.

Also there is NO way your convincing anyone that Punisher should logically tag Spider Man. he has though. He tag a mach two speeder by unloading tons of bullets hoping to get lucky, which he did, not really a valid feat a accuracy like say Bullseye or ultimate Hawkeye.

regardless how much damage Team Ruby did to Human/Faun gaurds, means nothing. They hold back alot clearly as they kill beings (Grim/Monsters) who are leagues tougher with no issue by the dozens.

Also if the Spider Man characters are so much faster than the speed blitzes the girls shown (not to mention casual bullet dodging they have too) then why do Daredevil, captain America, Punisher, Wolverine, Doctor octopus, and more characters who are nowhere close to Spider Man's best speed feats tag Spider Man all the time? Even Rhino does somehow. Im not convinced this is clear cut and dry as your making it seem. Half these girls can survive, and have multi ton hits, as well the speed reaction and combat speed to act to attacks or counter attack. the versatile magic of Dust (Ice, Fire, Wind) from Wise, Blake, and Yang (cant recall RWBY using it), will be enough, and RWBY is the faststest character here.

Ruby is by feats faster than Spider man and Scarlet Spider combine by this feat alone. The last episode is pure PIS when Ruby could Speed blitz like this....

Also this feat showed Yang has speed blitz ability, and is stronger than Spider Man or Kaine ever shown in striking power. 2:18 also shows another speed blitz of Ruby where she appears out of nowhere like teleportation.

Also the last episode was pure PIS.

Yang Tanks all this. ALL OF THIS, and not KOed.

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Or here as Yang is blown 1000s of feet into the air from a hammer like hit to the face, and she falls back to the area after an extended flight of over a minute occurred, and she is not KOed.

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Yet here she is KOed? no..... just no.

How about the PIS of Wiess's fight?

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She has Ice magic that freezes solid in split seconds Giant, and I mean GIANT monsters with ice. She can create powerful glyph Shields to block attacks. She also can use Fire Magic to scorch a whole tree to burn husk in a split second. yet NONE of this was used in her last fight against the Chain Saw guy? BS.

Feats shown > Monty PIS last Episode. There is no way Ruby, Yang, or Weiss would be pwned like that logically. None.

@lvenger: Just to add the bit about punisher but Frank also studied Peters moves if that helps. This was specifically mentioned in the comic he shot the web shooters off of spider-man.

oh yeah, he needed prep and info to pull that off in a way.

@h3dora101: I thought I posted this yesterday but anyway here's that tweet from Monty I was talking about

@lvenger: thanks. But that seems like any other writer trying to balance their own creations, like Justine Jordan and his Luther Strode. He has a idea what he like to be, but the feats make him much better. Same case with RWBY here. I showed why the last episode was full of pis when looking at past feats.

Alright, after watching RWBY, taking into consideration powers and abilities and such, and balancing high end versus low end showings, the Spider team should take this. While the RWBY characters are capable of some levels of speed, none of them have shown speeds beyond what most competent street levelers could deal with...not to mention Spidey has dealt with mach speedsters, and even without the use of spider sense, matched a spider powered precog with pure martial arts. As well, Spidey and Kaine are both far more experienced than team RWBY, team RWBY has no good counters for Spidey's spider-sense, and you have to couple this with the fact that each of them can web spam.

Let's point out that Frank is a top tier marksman, and those showings are a bit older as well. There are far more instances of Spidey blitzing Frank and dodging his shots.

Also if the Spider Man characters are so much faster than the speed blitzes the girls shown (not to mention casual bullet dodging they have too) then why do Daredevil, captain America, Punisher, Wolverine, Doctor octopus, and more characters who are nowhere close to Spider Man's best speed feats tag Spider Man all the time? Even Rhino does somehow.

As for this here, Spidey does tend to hold back a lot. But to bring up a huge point, a lot of the characters you have mentioned are trained martial artists. Martial arts is a power in comics. It allows these guys to do a ton of things they shouldn't be able to do, and it all falls back on their training. And while Spidey may have been tagged by a few of them, it is a far cry than losing flat out. Let's look at Wolvie, he actually has very impressive speed feats, and has matched many characters that play in the Spidey level speed range. He has fairly consistently displayed metahuman speed levels, coupled with martial arts. Captain America? The penultimate strategist, master martial artist, and master of PIS, who fairly consistently fights with and deals with characters that should be out of his league? Cap is pretty much the Slade of the Marvel U with a lot of his showings, not to mention, Pete has some hero worship and holds back quite a bit there. Daredevil? Master martial artist, avoidance master, speed feats that put him in the metahuman arena, etc, etc, so forth and so on...not to mention another hero type that Pete doesn't go all out on. Then you have to factor in that many of these showings are from times when Pete was far less experienced, and was prior to WoTS training.

Doc Ock? Those arms have consistently moved fast enough to react to mach speed attacks in the form of bullets...Spidey more often than not dodges Ock, but Ock is a foe that knows Spidey, has fought him, is experienced in dealing with him, with a genius level intellect and planning ability, and has arms that can react to mach speed attacks. He should by all rights be able to occasionally tag Spidey. Rhino...another foe experienced with dealing with the likes of Spidey, and another character whom Spidey dodges more often than he gets hit by, but is still not slow by any means, and has some pretty damn good reaction feats of his own. Rhino is only ever really painted as a slow character when he is jobbing it in someone else's book. And again though, a lot of this was before Spider Island...

The thing is, Spidey doesn't get tagged all the time. If we compare his avoidance up against the times he has gotten tagged, the scales would tip far into the avoidance side of things. Then much like what was discussed with the RWBY episode and PIS...that has to be factored in as well, as someone who has been around as long as Spidey has, with the multitudes of appearances and so on, is bound to have moments of PIS to make another character look good or to propel a story along. So if we are going to factor PIS for the RWBY side of things, we have to factor that in for Spidey and Kaine. While I enjoy RWBY, and am looking forward to season 3, they didn't have any speed feats that would put them out of the range of Spidey's abilities, and they aren't as experienced as Spidey or Kaine.

Ruby is the fastest one of her team, but the problem with her speed is that it isn't consistent, and it isn't a full time operational combat thing. When she uses it, she uses it in bursts, and often uses Crescent Rose to supplement that speed (not all of the time though). So it isn't like she is a full blown speedster, operating consistently at mach speeds. She has good bullet timing reactions (like many in RWBY do), but that isn't unique or unheard of in the Marvel U (even Hand ninja's are capable of deflecting bullets with swords). The RWBY girls need some more time and experience before they are ready for a fight against these two as they currently stand in the series.

@wyldsong: Very nice thoughts on the battle, I agree completely with what you've said so eloquently. Their feats and showings aren't nearly consistent enough to take on street level+ characters like Spider-Man and Kaine. By the way, what did you think of RWBY as a show?

im curious about this too Wyld. how you like it? I think its pretty sweet still.

Honestly? I am a fan. I enjoyed the series immensely, and the story and the music are top notch. The animation style takes some getting used to, and is getting better as the series progresses. All in all, it has just about everything I could ask for in an anime style show.

@wyldsong: I like how it is watch at any time on You Tube free too.

However... I wish he had time to finish Dead Fantasy, that was epic.

@drunkenpunk: I have heard about it, but I am not sure I want to check it out if he didn't finish it. RWBY is really taking off, so we'll see what happens with his other works.

I heard he did Haloid first, then did up to 6 episodes of awesome sauce of Dead Fantasy (Final Fantasy vs Dead or Alive) and then was offered a job by Rooster Teeth to make RWBY. so it kinda sucks he spends all his time doing RWBY, which is understandable, the Dead fantasy was just for fun, now he is being paid.

@drunkenpunk: The man has got to eat, right? =)

Sure does, so i cannot complain really then lol. Still sore about the finished product, but the fight scenes are epic in Dead Fantasy.

@drunkenpunk: I may have to go check it out then. I'll just have to deal with being bummed out over an unfinished series.

@wyldsong: to be fair, there is little dialogue, or plot, so it holds up.

@drunkenpunk: Good stuff. I will watch it for the combat and carnage then=)

@wyldsong: RWBY is surprisingly good for a self funded Internet anime show. It's even getting translated into Japanese so it's becoming pretty popular. I like that they have the 'World of Remnant' videos where they expand on the lore and backstory of their creation. That's always good to see.The characters do seem interesting, the humour can be well done and the action is fast and furious. It's enough to make me a fan too.

@lvenger: I actually still need to watch the World of Remnant segments, but I agree 100%.

@wyldsong: They're really interesting, they talk about Dust, the other kingdoms, The Grimm and more.

@lvenger: I think I will check those out in a bit then.

@wyldsong: yang is a better mixed martial artist than wolverine captain America and daredevil combined.

Wolverine is one of the top 5 Martial Artists in the Marvel Universe and im not even joking...

your statement is blatant ignornace