Spider-Man & Iron Man Vs. Iceman & Angel

Iceman. Just... Iceman, because Spider-Man and Angel are useless.

And, might I add, it was a pleasure to watch the argument, @buckshot

@buckshot: So because he goes up against telepaths from time to time in his world that makes him less overpowered?

Don't feel so high and mighty because ur posts are 'relevant.' This is a battle about Spiderman and Iron Man vs Angel and Ice man and you are trying to convince me that Ice Man isn't overpowered. Ur posts are just as pointless as mine (assuming this website actually mattered).

@noone301994: Come on man, just stop doing that. You're digging a deeper hole for yourself... concede and move on.

As for me, i can see Iceman soloing since op has them at morals off. As of late, he's been show to be a legitimate powerhouse in the comics. With this battle of the atom event going on (Ice Wizard/Hulk), and the recent Astonishing X-men arc, there's real proof to show Iceman's legitimacy. There should be more battles for Iceman imo... so people will actually know what his powers really are, instead of just 'creating icicles'...

@buckshot: Sorry for the interruption, but is there a valid scan saying iceman can reach absolute zero? I have a scan saying he can get very close to it, but what's the lowest he has reached till now?

@princearagorn1: There's an image of him reaching absolute zero on page one of this thread. He's stated he can get close to multiple times over the decades and has gotten there before with assistance. The image on the first page shows him getting there quickly and on his own. It fits with the general increase in abilities he's been showing over the last few years.

@noone301994: Because many of the characters he primarily interacts with can easily take him down, avoid his powers all together, or have powers of their own that are near his level, he's not overpowered. His abilities are appropriate for his circumstances. I'm on a mission to civilize.

@buckshot: They could easily take him down and avoid his ice attacks? Which ones? The only ones I can think of is Professor X and Emma Frost. I mean someone that can freeze someone's blood with a glance within seconds and not be physically harmed or killed seems pretty overpowered to me... Who could stand against someone like that aside from telepaths? Even so, he could probably flash freeze their organs before they could even think or react.

@baberaham_lincoln:

You must not read X-Men comics if you think those are the only telepaths. I mean, just at the moment there are two Jean Grey's running around, Rachel Grey, another Xavier, and Quentin Quire just in Wolverine and the X-Men (those are off the top of my head, don't know if there are others I've missed). Speaking of characters close to Iceman, he's dating Kitty Pryde and she's not the only one who can no-sell his powers (I posted Juggernaut earlier and I almost posted him fighting Red Hulk, who, because of his radiation powers, seems to be highly resistant to Bobby's abilities). The other team of X-Men currently has 4 telepaths and in addition to that has members with powers comparable or better than Bobby's. They have someone that can stop time and send people through it, someone who can take people to a realm where she's a god, someone that (despite what is likely to be a temporary setback) is the master of electromagnetic forces and all that entails. Then there are characters who might not have instant access to such destructive powers but can, through their intelligence, achieve potentially even more dangerous effects. And that's just on a direct power comparison. There are characters who could affect Bobby or the world in various ways that depend on the manipulation of words or people. Again, Bobby's powers are appropriate for the situation he's most often in and the people around him.

@buckshot: Gotcha. Yeah he doesn't seem that overpowered anymore.

Edit: Just kidding I just said that to stop this garbage. Ice Man is still overpowered as all hell.

One of Team 1 can solo.

@adriusus: stop just stop ice man solos and and he kills angel for being useless

@g2_: Because Ice Man is one of the most overrated characters in comicvine.

@adriusus: not as batman

@g2_: What?

@adriusus: you edited your comment you said iron man is one of the most overrated characters in comicvine.

@g2_: I never said Iron Man is one of the most overrated.

It was Ice Man, duh.

@adriusus: liar

@g2_: Prove it, then.

@adriusus: no

@noone301994: I am so happy to see another Iron man fan.

@krleavenger: watch your language

@krleavenger: censor it

@krleavenger: Language warning. In the future please refrain from using the f-word on Comic Vine.

@krleavenger: its okay

@krleavenger: You shouldn't have bumped this if you think he solos.

X-Men.

Iceman won Thanos and Thor si I think he can with iron Man because he is not as powerful as thor ,in fact thor won iron Man after civil war

Iceman Solos.

A Morals Off Iceman is no joking matter. He'll Freeze Ironman and Spider-Man from the Inside out.

Angel can just kick back and watch Bobby go bananas on these Jokers.....