VS
Standard Gear.
Reed gets not gear but his suit and computer helmet to analyze things.
Death or KO.
@sirfizzwhizz: team 1 in stomp peter catches pietro reed is non factor and ultimate cap is physically inferior.
Those are some random character's to use in Ult Cap's team, why not replace Quicksilver with Cap-616 and Reed with Bucky or someone?
I feel as if this is linked to that Ult Cap vs Spider-Man thread.
Quicksilver solos.
@juiceboks: @highaccuser: @mazeraiii: Since QS is too much, how about now?
Quicksilver vaporized a mach 10 speedster did he not?
When Running straight.
Spider-team takes in a hard-fought victory.
Spidey has proven to be a good match for 616 cap before, and if I'm not mistaken, Ultimate Cap is a hair below him.
Agent Venom is a beast, would likely MVP his team, and could probably engage the whole opposing team and give them a good fight.
Reed would cause some problems, but when he fights he offers up a WHOLE LOT of bite real estate. Unless he has a spider-venom immunity I'm not aware of (which i guess is totally possible), 2099 could take him out of the match quickly.
Wolverine would pose the biggest problems, and could conceivably take down any 1 member of the team, but he'd have ZERO chance in a 3-on-1 situation.
@rickythanos: Spider man has never beaten or tagged Ultimate Quicksilver.They never even met. Not that it matters anymore, i took him out.
@sirfizzwhizz: Yep saw that. Edited accordingly.
Ultimate Cap is superior to 616 by alot. Most Cap vs Ult Cap threads show this as well.
I can accept that. Makes sense, given that he has taken down Ultimate Hulk with pressure point attacks.
Doesn't change my thoughts on the outcome much, though.
Ultimate Cap is superior to 616 by alot. Most Cap vs Ult Cap threads show this as well.
I can accept that. Makes sense, given that he has taken down Ultimate Hulk with pressure point attacks.
Doesn't change my thoughts on the outcome much, though.
Thats fine, just thought you might not know 616 is more skilled but Ultimate has better stats.
I still don't see how they deal with Reed.
Is reed immune to spider venom?
(honest question)
I still don't see how they deal with Reed.
Actually, I was thinking Venom and Reed might be all that's left. I just don't know how either team is gonna deal with these two.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
I still don't see how they deal with Reed.
Is reed immune to spider venom?
(honest question)
He has no internal organs and foreign agents like gas are useless on him because of that, so I'd say no. Plus Miguel would have to bite hard enough to inject the venom into his system, which he isn't capable of doing considering even Wolverine's claws have had no effect on him.
@floopay I feel like Reed is strong enough to pummel Flash for a K.O after a while.
@juiceboks: That's true. But it'd take awhile. I don't know if current Venom can do it, but I know past versions have been able to actually enter someone via nose/mouth and do some damage that way.
If Agent Venom has that ability and actually uses it he might be able to win. But gain, I'm not caught up on either character in question, so it's pure speculation on my part.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
I still don't see how they deal with Reed.
Is reed immune to spider venom?
(honest question)
He has no internal organs and foreign agents like gas are useless on him because of that, so I'd say no. Plus Miguel would have to bite hard enough to inject the venom into his system, which he isn't capable of doing considering even Wolverine's claws have had no effect on him.
@floopay I feel like Reed is strong enough to pummel Flash for a K.O after a while.
Flash was taking hits from Rulk....so probally not
@juiceboks: That's true. But it'd take awhile. I don't know if current Venom can do it, but I know past versions have been able to actually enter someone via nose/mouth and do some damage that way.
If Agent Venom has that ability and actually uses it he might be able to win. But gain, I'm not caught up on either character in question, so it's pure speculation on my part.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
I don't recall Flash every doing that, but I don't think it would work very well on Reed. Not just because he doesn't have any organs to attack, but because his stretching ability far exceeds that of a symbiote. He could essentially expand himself enough to where he could isolate and cut off wherever the symbiote is inside of him by compressing that part of his body. Of course he hasn't done exactly this before, but I figure he's more than intelligent enough to figure it out should Flash try that.
To be clear this is Ultimate Reed right?
Thats a scan of Ultimate Reed.
@juiceboks: That's true. But it'd take awhile. I don't know if current Venom can do it, but I know past versions have been able to actually enter someone via nose/mouth and do some damage that way.
If Agent Venom has that ability and actually uses it he might be able to win. But gain, I'm not caught up on either character in question, so it's pure speculation on my part.
Thanks for reading,
Floopay
I don't recall Flash every doing that, but I don't think it would work very well on Reed. Not just because he doesn't have any organs to attack, but because his stretching ability far exceeds that of a symbiote. He could essentially expand himself enough to where he could isolate and cut off wherever the symbiote is inside of him by compressing that part of his body. Of course he hasn't done exactly this before, but I figure he's more than intelligent enough to figure it out should Flash try that.
Almost sounds like this.
@sirfizzwhizz: Yea I figured something like that is well out of Venom's stretching capabilities.
@bullet_to_the_head He took one uppercut from him that sent him flying, and of course he got back after a while but you don't have to be on par with Red Hulk to hurt Flash based on that one encounter and another one where Ross wasn't trying his hardest to harm him. Reed has hurt more durable characters than Venom like Ult Thing for example.
@juiceboks: I actually cannot recall Reed hurting Thing. Restrain him but never harmed him.
@sirfizzwhizz: I know but I thought some people may have thought it was 616 Reed from the feats being mentioned.
@sirfizzwhizz: It was during Ultimates: Disassembled when Ben in his ionic form fought Reed. It wasn't all that significant admittedly but it's something.
@sirfizzwhizz: Yea I figured something like that is well out of Venom's stretching capabilities.
@bullet_to_the_head He took one uppercut from him that sent him flying, and of course he got back after a while but you don't have to be on par with Red Hulk to hurt Flash based on that one encounter and another one where Ross wasn't trying his hardest to harm him. Reed has hurt more durable characters than Venom like Ult Thing for example.
He also took another one to face against a wall, and recovered from it nigh-instantly, Flash even told the Thunderbolts to go all out so he would know there would be someone to stop him
@bullet_to_the_head: I know, that's what I was referring when I said Ross was holding back as evidenced by what he said after he hit him.
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