#1 Posted by 4donkeyjohnson (1698 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider-Man with two light sabres and as much training as Luke gets at Dagobah Vs Norman Osborn who without losing a hand takes up the Darth Vader role?

#2 Posted by Ferro Vida (34678 posts) - - Show Bio
@4donkeyjohnson: Is Goblin as powerful as Darth Vader?
#3 Posted by Shawnbaby (10867 posts) - - Show Bio

You gave Spider-Man Force Powers and 2 Lightsabers? R.I.P Norman.

#4 Posted by Ferro Vida (34678 posts) - - Show Bio
@Shawnbaby said:
You gave Spider-Man Force Powers and 2 Lightsabers? R.I.P Norman.
He may have given Norman greater force powers and years of lightsaber experience. I might not be such a stomp.
#5 Posted by Shawnbaby (10867 posts) - - Show Bio
@Ferro Vida said:
@Shawnbaby said:
You gave Spider-Man Force Powers and 2 Lightsabers? R.I.P Norman.
He may have given Norman greater force powers and years of lightsaber experience. I might not be such a stomp.
I probably shouldn't have suggested a Stomp...but I think Spidey does win this one pretty cleanly.
#6 Posted by Ferro Vida (34678 posts) - - Show Bio
@Shawnbaby said:
@Ferro Vida said:
@Shawnbaby said:
You gave Spider-Man Force Powers and 2 Lightsabers? R.I.P Norman.
He may have given Norman greater force powers and years of lightsaber experience. I might not be such a stomp.
I probably shouldn't have suggested a Stomp...but I think Spidey does win this one pretty cleanly.
Even with Vader's power and experience I see Spidey winning (unless there are feats from the comics that I don't know of).
#7 Posted by 4donkeyjohnson (1698 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah I'd put Norman as = to Darth just with his hands, no bionics

#8 Posted by JediXMan (30907 posts) - - Show Bio

My God this is stupid...

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#9 Posted by JediWaffles (746 posts) - - Show Bio

@Shawnbaby said:

You gave Spider-Man Force Powers and 2 Lightsabers? R.I.P Norman.

It never said Spidey had Force abilities. All he has are two-lightsabers and mediocre training, enough to cover basics. If Osborn, with all the skill of Vader plus his Force abilities were put up against Spidey and his lightsabers, i'd actually go for Osborn in this case.

#10 Posted by tomdickharry1984 (837 posts) - - Show Bio

If Peter was trainined like Luke was in the novies eg: for about 6minutes doing a handstand, a flip and levtating a rock combined with his SPider powers and Darth Goblin or Green Vader (whatevez) has no bionics adn goblin serum in his veins mixed with the FORCE, Norman Osborn wins. Just imagine Norman Osborn force-choling Peter while throwing pumbkin bombs at him from his glider....pretty cool. Norman wins :)

#11 Posted by JediWaffles (746 posts) - - Show Bio

@tomdickharry1984: Exactly! Spiderman has no answer for the force.

#12 Posted by Shawnbaby (10867 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediWaffles said:

@tomdickharry1984: Exactly! Spiderman has no answer for the force.

By your own reasoning it doesn't say Norman has Vader's powers either.
#13 Posted by JediWaffles (746 posts) - - Show Bio

@Shawnbaby said:

@JediWaffles said:

@tomdickharry1984: Exactly! Spiderman has no answer for the force.

By your own reasoning it doesn't say Norman has Vader's powers either.

Not really, it says he takes up Vader's role, which i assume doesn't just mean his role as father of Luke. As opposed to the OP only saying Spidey gets lightsabers and training.

#14 Posted by Shawnbaby (10867 posts) - - Show Bio
@JediWaffles said:

@Shawnbaby said:

@JediWaffles said:

@tomdickharry1984: Exactly! Spiderman has no answer for the force.

By your own reasoning it doesn't say Norman has Vader's powers either.

Not really, it says he takes up Vader's role, which i assume doesn't just mean his role as father of Luke. As opposed to the OP only saying Spidey gets lightsabers and training.

It could be he just wanted a lightsaber fight between goblin and Spider-Man though. At any rate, he doesn't say "Goblin has All of Vader's Powers" it just says he takes up Vader's Role....with Spider-Man taking  
Luke's.
#15 Posted by JediWaffles (746 posts) - - Show Bio

@Shawnbaby said:

@JediWaffles said:

@Shawnbaby said:

@JediWaffles said:

@tomdickharry1984: Exactly! Spiderman has no answer for the force.

By your own reasoning it doesn't say Norman has Vader's powers either.

Not really, it says he takes up Vader's role, which i assume doesn't just mean his role as father of Luke. As opposed to the OP only saying Spidey gets lightsabers and training.

It could be he just wanted a lightsaber fight between goblin and Spider-Man though. At any rate, he doesn't say "Goblin has All of Vader's Powers" it just says he takes up Vader's Role....with Spider-Man taking Luke's.

Never said Spiderman took Luke's role, just said he had sabers and training. And although it never said he got Vader's power, it IS implied. In either case, without further clarification from the OP, we'll never really know.

Spiderman with Force = Spidey stomp

Spiderman with lightsabers but no Force vs. Goblin with all Vader's powers = Goblin win

Plain ol' lightsaber fight = Spidey win

#16 Posted by 4donkeyjohnson (1698 posts) - - Show Bio

Wow, you guys want real specifics and stuff. Okay: Peter Parker is like Luke. He goes to Dagobah and trains with Yoda. He got bitten by a spider and has his spider powers but is now being schooled in the Force and like Luke in Empire it was pretty much eight minutes then go fight the evil tree. So Peter is as powerful as Luke is in Empire Strikes Back, but has two light sabres. Norman Osborn (NOT Peter's father) is for this exercise Darth Vader, except he didn't fall in a volcano & get cybernetics but he was injected with Sith Goblin formula so he's got Darth training with Norman/Green Goblin powers @Ferro Vida Norman = Darth less mouth breathing @JediXman Well thanks for the vote of confidence there @JediWaffles nice...hope this makes things clearer

#17 Posted by 4donkeyjohnson (1698 posts) - - Show Bio

Bumped

#18 Posted by jeanroygrant (20191 posts) - - Show Bio

Spider Jedi.

#19 Posted by 4donkeyjohnson (1698 posts) - - Show Bio

That's what I thought but I like the idea of a Darth Goblin...personally I think Spider Jedi, but he may loose a hand :)

#20 Posted by 4donkeyjohnson (1698 posts) - - Show Bio

Anybody else?

#21 Posted by Joygirl (20060 posts) - - Show Bio

Darth Goblin. Vader beat Luke in Empire, he'll do it this time as well. Force + pumpkin bombs = ouch. He could telekinetically train them on Peter so that he can't dodge.

#22 Posted by tomdickharry1984 (837 posts) - - Show Bio

Bumpo :)

#23 Posted by 4donkeyjohnson (1698 posts) - - Show Bio

@Joygirl Good point

#24 Posted by Doombot_666 (213 posts) - - Show Bio

@JediXMan said:

My God this is stupid...

"Use the force Peter... F*^& it, use your spidey-sense!"

"Peter... I am your best friend's father!" "Nooooo! That's impossi- Wait... You do have the same stupid hair."

#25 Posted by Doombot_666 (213 posts) - - Show Bio

Sigh... Darth Goblin. Superior skill with light sabers and the Force, exploding pumpkins, telekinesis, non-robot limbs allowing for the use of force lightning, Goblin-Glider, Goblin-formula.

The Force, for the most part, only supplement's Peter's spidey-sense and gives him low-level TK. His dual light sabers limit the use of his wall-crawling and web-slingers (if he had them in this scenario). It's basically Spider-Man with light sabers and a little bit of TK.

#26 Posted by tomdickharry1984 (837 posts) - - Show Bio

@Doombot_666 BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA "Peter...I am your best friend's father!"

#27 Posted by 4donkeyjohnson (1698 posts) - - Show Bio

So far it's neck and neck, anyone else one would win between Peter Parker Spider Jedi or Darth Goblin?

#28 Posted by batkevin74 (10981 posts) - - Show Bio

@4donkeyjohnson: Green Goblin aka Darth Goblin wins IMO

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#29 Posted by 4donkeyjohnson (1698 posts) - - Show Bio

Last call for Spider Jedi Vs Darth Goblin!

#30 Posted by 4donkeyjohnson (1698 posts) - - Show Bio

And that basically will end this thread....unless anyone has a comment on who would win between Peter Parker with as much training as Luke Skywalker in Empire with 2 lightsabers Vs Darth Goblin: Norman Osborn as Darth Vader but with no cybernetic hand

#31 Posted by Just_J79 (78 posts) - - Show Bio

I found this by surfing around. Are you adding spidey's base powers with those of a standard jedi?

Here's how I figure it. Most Jedi are at atheltic or peak human stats, then they use the force to supplement certain abilities at certain times like jumping, running, healing, combat prowess (like force valor) senses, etc to go above their normal limits. The force is pretty versatile when you look at it.

So you take a 10 toner who is pretty much the gold standard of agility and give him those abilities. If he were to use the force to increase his physical abilities for feats like the jedi do, it would be overkill for anyone. His versatility would be off the chart.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Light_side_of_the_Force#Known_light_side_Force_powers_and_techniques

#32 Posted by 4donkeyjohnson (1698 posts) - - Show Bio

@Just_J79: Other way round, Peter get's bitten by spider then goes onto Jedi training

#33 Posted by Hyperlight (6172 posts) - - Show Bio

@JediWaffles: i agree

#34 Posted by Dredknott416 (20 posts) - - Show Bio

Force counter spidersence... But spiderman does get trained by obi wan. Like one of the best

#35 Posted by 4donkeyjohnson (1698 posts) - - Show Bio

@Dredknott416 what about spider sense ENHANCED by the Force?

#36 Posted by Linestar (41 posts) - - Show Bio

BUMP