#1 Edited by DemonKnights (5394 posts) - - Show Bio

In character

No prep

No mjolnir

First to land 10 strikes wins.

Start off 5 feet away.

Strikes don't send opponents flying.

I like making these to get a feel for who would be on exact par with thor combat speed wise.

#2 Edited by BeaconofStrength (5040 posts) - - Show Bio

These again? Also, Thor.

Jobbertooth>Thor's jobbering

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#3 Posted by dondave (35985 posts) - - Show Bio

Sabretooth

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#5 Edited by Wolverine08 (40663 posts) - - Show Bio

Victor.

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#6 Posted by Wolverine08 (40663 posts) - - Show Bio

These again? Also, Thor.

Jobbertooth>Thor's jobbering

How is Thor supposed to be faster than Sabretooth when Victor's speed feats are better, and Thor is consistently outdone by street levelers speed wise?

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#7 Edited by dondave (35985 posts) - - Show Bio

A word of advice.

There's no point in making these Thor speed battles. He's probably going to lose more often than not.

You're going to have to go into Batgirl in her wheelchair territory for him to win. Even at that, she probably has some jets on her chair.

#8 Edited by BeaconofStrength (5040 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08: If Thor isn't jobbering, he'd be able to tag Victor. He's easily tagged hypersonic+ characters. Consistency is not Thor's strong suit.

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#9 Edited by XiiX (7904 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

You're going to have to go into Batgirl in her wheelchair territory for him to win. Even at that, she probably has some jets on her chair.

#10 Edited by Wolverine08 (40663 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08: If Thor isn't jobbering, he'd be able to tag Victor. He's easily tagged hypersonic+ characters. Consistency is not Thor's strong suit.

It's not jobbing if it happens consistently. Thor has been suffering from claims of being slow since the 60 and 70s along with being consistently being outspeed by street levelers. Street levelers have tagged hypersonic+ characters as well along with having overall better speed feats than Thor. Most of the time we don't even know how fast the characters in question are going, making the speed feat unreliable.

Thor is just slow.

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#11 Posted by DemonKnights (5394 posts) - - Show Bio

Ugh, ok fine, if thor loses this too, then let me just flat out ask the ones who think thir loses, who is on almost exact thor speed? I've been racking my brain trying t i fin out who. I thought sabretooth would be it.

#12 Edited by Frozen (12670 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor's speed has never really hindered him from being a powerhouse. He's always had some sort of ridiculous power amps time to time.

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#13 Edited by BeaconofStrength (5040 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08:

That's it, we're settling this.

In all honesty, I highly doubt I'm going to change my mind when it comes to Thor's speed. Hes heavily inconsistent between team books and solo titles. I'm kinda done with the whole Thor speed threads, because everyone has an opinion on it and isn't gonna change their mind on it. The only character of the Thor family that has consistency is Beta Ray Bill.

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#14 Posted by Wolverine08 (40663 posts) - - Show Bio
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#15 Posted by green_skaar (4415 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor isn't slow for the record. Marvel, especially for heavy-weights, has a greater emphasis on showing power over speed. Speed emphasis is reserved for street-levelers (generally, although there are obvious exceptions) to keep themselves alive while interacting with heavy-weights. DC on the other hand puts a much greater emphasis on speed. It's just how the different companies like to portray things. Thor has some decent speed feats, and when you look at his "slow" occurrences, 9 time out of 10 they are to prevent him from smashing people well below his level to dust. Not going to get roped into a Thor speed debate, just saying my piece and moving along...

#16 Edited by Experio (15130 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08: Consistent based on what? His speed feats out weigh his low showings 7 to 1. Tagging hypersonic street levelers doesn't give Victor greater movement, otherwise Thor would have nanosecond speed by tussling with Surfer and Gladiator.

I'd like to see these feats you had in mind that seem to be superior to Thor's cause I'm sure they don't exist

#17 Edited by ssj_god (4615 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08:

That's it, we're settling this.

In all honesty, I highly doubt I'm going to change my mind when it comes to Thor's speed. Hes heavily inconsistent between team books and solo titles. I'm kinda done with the whole Thor speed threads, because everyone has an opinion on it and isn't gonna change their mind on it. The only character of the Thor family that has consistency is Beta Ray Bill.

@beaconofstrength: Did you just throw a tree at me????? HOW RUDE!

haha .. wow XD

hmm..

op: depending on inconsistancy.. thor looses by his low showings.. thor wins with his high showings... ohh wait.. it's without mjolnir.. then thor might loose it :D

#18 Posted by laflux (15044 posts) - - Show Bio

@xiix said:

@dondave said:

You're going to have to go into Batgirl in her wheelchair territory for him to win. Even at that, she probably has some jets on her chair.

This made me laugh quite alot :)

#19 Posted by Wolverine08 (40663 posts) - - Show Bio

@experio said:

@wolverine08: Consistent based on what? His speed feats out weigh his low showings 7 to 1. Tagging hypersonic street levelers doesn't give Victor greater movement, otherwise Thor would have nanosecond speed by tussling with Surfer and Gladiator.

I'd like to see these feats you had in mind that seem to be greater than Thor's cause I'm sure they don't exist.

I never actually said that Victor tagged hypersonic characters is what makes him fast. I was pointing out that line of thinking is flawed.

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#20 Posted by unBREAKable_Fs4 (1627 posts) - - Show Bio

This is like the millionth Thor speed thread. Sadly, I won't fall for the bait lol

#21 Posted by laflux (15044 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor

Loses

#22 Posted by reaverlation (15179 posts) - - Show Bio

@laflux: That and the guy throwing the tree LLJJJ.

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#23 Posted by pikachumonster (3100 posts) - - Show Bio

B-b-b-butt God of Thunder :(

#24 Edited by DemonKnights (5394 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen: how is that relevant at all to this thread??

#25 Edited by Experio (15130 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08: Glad we can understand that but Victors speed is still inferior, taking advantage of Thor's low showings doesnt change their average difference in the attribute. You've consistently confused his speed with a link of comparison of the guys his slow against and those his not, the affirmation is made up of hypothesis evidence when street levelers are shown through that category to stand a chance at fighting powerhouses.

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#27 Posted by DemonKnights (5394 posts) - - Show Bio

@wolverine08: Wait, so thor is faster than street level now?

#28 Posted by dondave (35985 posts) - - Show Bio

Nope

#29 Edited by DemonKnights (5394 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave: who would you say is around thors combat speed? Gambit maybe?

#30 Edited by ilikedonuts (2167 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor flies as fast as he can at Sabertooth, 1 hit, then spins Mjolnir around as fast as he can on Toothy's chin, 9 hits.

Thor wins.

#31 Posted by DemonKnights (5394 posts) - - Show Bio
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#33 Edited by Cgoodness (4228 posts) - - Show Bio

gotta love nit picking

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#34 Posted by DemonKnights (5394 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't want nit picking guys. I want consitency

#35 Posted by Frozen (12670 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor's not fast by any good standard. Below Wolverine is a standard for his combat speed, writers have confirmed he doesn't have the traditional speed that can be utilized in combat.

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#36 Edited by Cgoodness (4228 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor isn't slow for the record. Marvel, especially for heavy-weights, has a greater emphasis on showing power over speed. Speed emphasis is reserved for street-levelers (generally, although there are obvious exceptions) to keep themselves alive while interacting with heavy-weights. DC on the other hand puts a much greater emphasis on speed. It's just how the different companies like to portray things. Thor has some decent speed feats, and when you look at his "slow" occurrences, 9 time out of 10 they are to prevent him from smashing people well below his level to dust. Not going to get roped into a Thor speed debate, just saying my piece and moving along...

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#37 Posted by dagmar_merrill (7862 posts) - - Show Bio
#38 Posted by Kal-El Summers (208 posts) - - Show Bio

This is incredibly stupid. Thor turns Sabertooth's head into a fine pink mist with the very first blow.

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#41 Edited by ComicStooge (12428 posts) - - Show Bio

Wolverine literally mentioned when he thought that Thor was Victor, that he thought Creed 'traded speed for strength'.

#42 Edited by Immortal777 (7241 posts) - - Show Bio

Creed is too much.

Thor vs random thug C who has no speed feats or any feats for that matter is better.

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#43 Edited by ZeroPlus (2279 posts) - - Show Bio

Is this feat canon?

#44 Edited by Cgoodness (4228 posts) - - Show Bio

@zeroplus: yes, just that OP says Thor doesn't have Mjolnir

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#45 Posted by Dextersinister (5922 posts) - - Show Bio

@zeroplus: Probably but that's travel speed. Green Lanterns can travel at multiple times the speed of light but they would fall in the same ballpark as Thor when it comes to reacting

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#47 Posted by ZeroPlus (2279 posts) - - Show Bio

@dextersinister: If he can travel that fast, then logically he should have very fast reactions as well...

#48 Edited by Buckshot (18914 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor isn't slow for the record. Marvel, especially for heavy-weights, has a greater emphasis on showing power over speed. Speed emphasis is reserved for street-levelers (generally, although there are obvious exceptions) to keep themselves alive while interacting with heavy-weights. DC on the other hand puts a much greater emphasis on speed. It's just how the different companies like to portray things. Thor has some decent speed feats, and when you look at his "slow" occurrences, 9 time out of 10 they are to prevent him from smashing people well below his level to dust. Not going to get roped into a Thor speed debate, just saying my piece and moving along...

I don't see how this means Thor isn't slow. Sure, Marvel chooses to not emphasize speed for their bricks, but that means they don't have it. Thor is slow because Marvel chooses not to give him operational speed as a fundamental part of his powerset. It's their choice, sure, but what they've chosen is for Thor to be slow when compared to characters like DCs powerhouses or their own street level characters. "Marvel" determines how fast he is and the consistent portrayal they're going with is that he's not fast.

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#49 Posted by Cgoodness (4228 posts) - - Show Bio

@zeroplus: my personal opinion yes he does, he has shown to at the very least react in microseconds, however a lot of people here try to use only his low showings

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#50 Posted by ZeroPlus (2279 posts) - - Show Bio