Speed Force vs Lanterns

Speed Force

• Wally West
• Barry Allen
• Jay Garrick
• Bart Allen
• Zoom
• Jesse Quick
• Black Flash

Lanterns

• Kyle Rayner
• Sinestro
• Alan Scott
• Hal Jordan
• John Stewart
• Atrocitus
• Larfleeze

Rules

Round 1

• no one is bloodlusted
• rings are only at 50%
• Flashes can only run 50%
• Lanterns are on ground, staring 300 miles apart.
• Morals off
• Lanterns have their body shields down

Round 2

• every one isn't bloodlusted
• rings are at 100%
• Flashes are at 100%
• Lanterns are on ground, starting on the other side of the Earth. They know of the Flashes, though.
• Morals on
• Lanterns have their body shields down

Round 3

• everyone is bloodlusted
• Rings at 100%
• Flashes at 100%
• Lanterns start in air. For this I'm going to put the fight in a inhabited city with tall buildings. They start 150 miles apart.
• Morals off
• to the death
• Lanterns have their body shields up

Flashes can't steal their speed in any round.

"No one is bloodlusted" and "Everyone isn't bloodlusted" mean exactly the same thing.

Zoom has nothing to do with the Speed Force, and the SF team wins every single round because the Lanterns cannot do squat about the Black Flash.

Speed Force team wins.Lanterns are on ground and they can't do anything to stop the Speed Force guys.

@TDK_1997 said:

Speed Force team wins.Lanterns are on ground and they can't do anything to stop the Speed Force guys.

What about round three.

Team 1.
BB

@Petey_is_Spidey said:

@TDK_1997 said:

Speed Force team wins.Lanterns are on ground and they can't do anything to stop the Speed Force guys.

What about round three.

They still win.

Speedsters take first two rounds. They're just too fast. I'm still not sure about the third round.

Well whenever you put either Zoom or Wally West in a battle, everyone is going to say they solo. So the clear winners here are going to the Speed Force team.

Zoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooom/Black Racer solos.

@Imagine_Man15 said:

Well whenever you put either Zoom or Wally West in a battle, everyone is going to say they solo. So the clear winners here are going to the Speed Force team.

So your saying they win just 'cause everyone else says it.

Lanterns only win round 3.

The Lanterns don't win round 3 either. They can do nothing to the Black Flash and he can one-shot all of them.

• Round 1 Speed Force
• Round 2 Speed Force
• Round 3 Lanterns

Dark Zoom solos!

Why do people think the Lanterns win round 3?

I don't read much flash. What can Zoom and Black Flash do that ALWAYS allows them to solo?

@nickzambuto said:

I don't read much flash. What can Zoom and Black Flash do that ALWAYS allows them to solo?

None of them can touch Zoom, but that's not the point. The Black Flash is an aspect of Death, how are the Lanterns going to stop him?

@CitizenBane said:

@nickzambuto said:

I don't read much flash. What can Zoom and Black Flash do that ALWAYS allows them to solo?

None of them can touch Zoom, but that's not the point. The Black Flash is an aspect of Death, how are the Lanterns going to stop him?

That's what I'm asking. What exactly can Zoom and Black Flash do? Zoom can manipulate time... ok I guess. Can you elaborate?

@nickzambuto said:

@CitizenBane said:

@nickzambuto said:

I don't read much flash. What can Zoom and Black Flash do that ALWAYS allows them to solo?

None of them can touch Zoom, but that's not the point. The Black Flash is an aspect of Death, how are the Lanterns going to stop him?

That's what I'm asking. What exactly can Zoom and Black Flash do? Zoom can manipulate time... ok I guess. Can you elaborate?

He can manipulate how fast or slow he moves through his personal timeline, effectively moving faster than even the Flash can go. And accordingly, he can land thousands of punches on opponents before they even know what's happening.

Black Flash is death. He can kill you with a touch. How is a Green Lantern supposed to hurt death? The Black Flash could conceivably solo the entire Green Lantern Corps if he wanted, primarily because they can't stop him no matter what they do.

@CitizenBane said:

@nickzambuto said:

@CitizenBane said:

@nickzambuto said:

I don't read much flash. What can Zoom and Black Flash do that ALWAYS allows them to solo?

None of them can touch Zoom, but that's not the point. The Black Flash is an aspect of Death, how are the Lanterns going to stop him?

That's what I'm asking. What exactly can Zoom and Black Flash do? Zoom can manipulate time... ok I guess. Can you elaborate?

He can manipulate how fast or slow he moves through his personal timeline, effectively moving faster than even the Flash can go. And accordingly, he can land thousands of punches on opponents before they even know what's happening.

Black Flash is death. He can kill you with a touch. How is a Green Lantern supposed to hurt death? The Black Flash could conceivably solo the entire Green Lantern Corps if he wanted, primarily because they can't stop him no matter what they do.

How exactly does Flash go about beating these guys?

@nickzambuto said:

@CitizenBane said:

@nickzambuto said:

@CitizenBane said:

@nickzambuto said:

I don't read much flash. What can Zoom and Black Flash do that ALWAYS allows them to solo?

None of them can touch Zoom, but that's not the point. The Black Flash is an aspect of Death, how are the Lanterns going to stop him?

That's what I'm asking. What exactly can Zoom and Black Flash do? Zoom can manipulate time... ok I guess. Can you elaborate?

He can manipulate how fast or slow he moves through his personal timeline, effectively moving faster than even the Flash can go. And accordingly, he can land thousands of punches on opponents before they even know what's happening.

Black Flash is death. He can kill you with a touch. How is a Green Lantern supposed to hurt death? The Black Flash could conceivably solo the entire Green Lantern Corps if he wanted, primarily because they can't stop him no matter what they do.

How exactly does Flash go about beating these guys?

Regular Flash? He can avoid their constructs/phase through them/steal their rings/punch them repeatedly. Black Flash just touches them once.

massively one sided thread.

@CitizenBane said:

@nickzambuto said:

@CitizenBane said:

@nickzambuto said:

@CitizenBane said:

@nickzambuto said:

I don't read much flash. What can Zoom and Black Flash do that ALWAYS allows them to solo?

None of them can touch Zoom, but that's not the point. The Black Flash is an aspect of Death, how are the Lanterns going to stop him?

That's what I'm asking. What exactly can Zoom and Black Flash do? Zoom can manipulate time... ok I guess. Can you elaborate?

He can manipulate how fast or slow he moves through his personal timeline, effectively moving faster than even the Flash can go. And accordingly, he can land thousands of punches on opponents before they even know what's happening.

Black Flash is death. He can kill you with a touch. How is a Green Lantern supposed to hurt death? The Black Flash could conceivably solo the entire Green Lantern Corps if he wanted, primarily because they can't stop him no matter what they do.

How exactly does Flash go about beating these guys?

Regular Flash? He can avoid their constructs/phase through them/steal their rings/punch them repeatedly. Black Flash just touches them once.

No no no, I meant how does Flash beat Black Flash and Zoom?

@nickzambuto said:

@CitizenBane said:

@nickzambuto said:

@CitizenBane said:

@nickzambuto said:

@CitizenBane said:

@nickzambuto said:

I don't read much flash. What can Zoom and Black Flash do that ALWAYS allows them to solo?

None of them can touch Zoom, but that's not the point. The Black Flash is an aspect of Death, how are the Lanterns going to stop him?

That's what I'm asking. What exactly can Zoom and Black Flash do? Zoom can manipulate time... ok I guess. Can you elaborate?

He can manipulate how fast or slow he moves through his personal timeline, effectively moving faster than even the Flash can go. And accordingly, he can land thousands of punches on opponents before they even know what's happening.

Black Flash is death. He can kill you with a touch. How is a Green Lantern supposed to hurt death? The Black Flash could conceivably solo the entire Green Lantern Corps if he wanted, primarily because they can't stop him no matter what they do.

How exactly does Flash go about beating these guys?

Regular Flash? He can avoid their constructs/phase through them/steal their rings/punch them repeatedly. Black Flash just touches them once.

No no no, I meant how does Flash beat Black Flash and Zoom?

Oh. He beat Black Flash once by time-travelling to the end of the universe, where the Black Flash faded from existence because death itself ceased to exist as a concept. He doesn't beat Zoom.

@CitizenBane said:

@nickzambuto said:

@CitizenBane said:

@nickzambuto said:

@CitizenBane said:

@nickzambuto said:

@CitizenBane said:

@nickzambuto said:

I don't read much flash. What can Zoom and Black Flash do that ALWAYS allows them to solo?

None of them can touch Zoom, but that's not the point. The Black Flash is an aspect of Death, how are the Lanterns going to stop him?

That's what I'm asking. What exactly can Zoom and Black Flash do? Zoom can manipulate time... ok I guess. Can you elaborate?

He can manipulate how fast or slow he moves through his personal timeline, effectively moving faster than even the Flash can go. And accordingly, he can land thousands of punches on opponents before they even know what's happening.

Black Flash is death. He can kill you with a touch. How is a Green Lantern supposed to hurt death? The Black Flash could conceivably solo the entire Green Lantern Corps if he wanted, primarily because they can't stop him no matter what they do.

How exactly does Flash go about beating these guys?

Regular Flash? He can avoid their constructs/phase through them/steal their rings/punch them repeatedly. Black Flash just touches them once.

No no no, I meant how does Flash beat Black Flash and Zoom?

Oh. He beat Black Flash once by time-travelling to the end of the universe, where the Black Flash faded from existence because death itself ceased to exist as a concept. He doesn't beat Zoom.

He doesn't beat Zoom? So who stops him from completing his nefarious goals? Probably Batman amirite.

The Lantern Larfleeze is the Key here He can steal Life essence souls and all that foolishness . Then again the flashes are no joke either but my bet on Roach face

@nickzambuto said:

@CitizenBane said:

@nickzambuto said:

@CitizenBane said:

@nickzambuto said:

@CitizenBane said:

@nickzambuto said:

@CitizenBane said:

@nickzambuto said:

I don't read much flash. What can Zoom and Black Flash do that ALWAYS allows them to solo?

None of them can touch Zoom, but that's not the point. The Black Flash is an aspect of Death, how are the Lanterns going to stop him?

That's what I'm asking. What exactly can Zoom and Black Flash do? Zoom can manipulate time... ok I guess. Can you elaborate?

He can manipulate how fast or slow he moves through his personal timeline, effectively moving faster than even the Flash can go. And accordingly, he can land thousands of punches on opponents before they even know what's happening.

Black Flash is death. He can kill you with a touch. How is a Green Lantern supposed to hurt death? The Black Flash could conceivably solo the entire Green Lantern Corps if he wanted, primarily because they can't stop him no matter what they do.

How exactly does Flash go about beating these guys?

Regular Flash? He can avoid their constructs/phase through them/steal their rings/punch them repeatedly. Black Flash just touches them once.

No no no, I meant how does Flash beat Black Flash and Zoom?

Oh. He beat Black Flash once by time-travelling to the end of the universe, where the Black Flash faded from existence because death itself ceased to exist as a concept. He doesn't beat Zoom.

He doesn't beat Zoom? So who stops him from completing his nefarious goals? Probably Batman amirite.

Zoom just tries to make heroes better by instilling some sort of tragedy into their lives. He really isn't a villain per se.

@chriconz123 said:

@nickzambuto said:

@CitizenBane said:

@nickzambuto said:

@CitizenBane said:

@nickzambuto said:

@CitizenBane said:

@nickzambuto said:

@CitizenBane said:

@nickzambuto said:

I don't read much flash. What can Zoom and Black Flash do that ALWAYS allows them to solo?

None of them can touch Zoom, but that's not the point. The Black Flash is an aspect of Death, how are the Lanterns going to stop him?

That's what I'm asking. What exactly can Zoom and Black Flash do? Zoom can manipulate time... ok I guess. Can you elaborate?

He can manipulate how fast or slow he moves through his personal timeline, effectively moving faster than even the Flash can go. And accordingly, he can land thousands of punches on opponents before they even know what's happening.

Black Flash is death. He can kill you with a touch. How is a Green Lantern supposed to hurt death? The Black Flash could conceivably solo the entire Green Lantern Corps if he wanted, primarily because they can't stop him no matter what they do.

How exactly does Flash go about beating these guys?

Regular Flash? He can avoid their constructs/phase through them/steal their rings/punch them repeatedly. Black Flash just touches them once.

No no no, I meant how does Flash beat Black Flash and Zoom?

Oh. He beat Black Flash once by time-travelling to the end of the universe, where the Black Flash faded from existence because death itself ceased to exist as a concept. He doesn't beat Zoom.

He doesn't beat Zoom? So who stops him from completing his nefarious goals? Probably Batman amirite.

Zoom just tries to make heroes better by instilling some sort of tragedy into their lives. He really isn't a villain per se.

So he killed Barry Allen's mom? Ok I think I get it...