Spectre vs Marquis of Death and Doctor Doom

Spectre wins. Both scenarios, Marquis took out multiple Galacti(?) but Galactus ain't on Spectre's level.

" @Silver2467: Nope, Spectre is supposed to be on par with the Living Tribunal. Unbound Marquis isn't even a blip on Spectre's radar. Bound then Marquis more of a chance, but given that Spectre is the spirit of vengeance then I see this more like a sick sado-masochist torture fest, that ends very badly for the Marquis. "

Spectre should be as powerful as LT. At his strongest, he is. But on average, he isn't that strong. 
 
But I'm going with Spectre.

" @JediXMan: Spectre is hard to gauge in terms of power level. On one level he's taking to Parallax/ Anti-Monitor level characters. On the other he's getting chumped by Captain Marvel. I think he's on par with LT, but writers want to use him more, so they "dumb him down" to make him usable. "

" @JediXMan: I belive so. But still!? Though it was a great story, a raging mad Spectre shouldn't be getting his arse handed to him by Shazam. If he truly is supposed to be on Living Tribunal's level, then he would look around, see things aren't right, and wave his hands and everything would be back how it's supposed to be.  "

At his strongest the Spectre directly carries out Yahweh's will. This puts him a bit below GEB, Michael and Lucifer, but still far above the LT.

#1: Marquis Of Death Solos.
#2: Spectre.

I guess the consensus is unanimous (aside from one troll). I'm a pretty big Spectre fan, and I know what he's capable of and who he's defeated (Nabu, Shazam, etc.). But I guess I overestimated Marquis of Death. My bad. 

2.scenario - Spectre for sure.
1.? I don't how powerfull is this version, but it must be close to LT also, because MoD is high above guys like Galactus or Eternity.

1.? I don't how powerfull is this version, but it must be close to LT also, because MoD is high above guys like Galactus or Eternity. 

Fight 1: Spectre should win but he has been taken out by people significantly weaker than him in the past like Black Adam. With preparation, they might get a win. If he's not jobbing, he should win.
Fight 2: Spectre unbound should be way above what these guys can handle even with preparation. I don't recall unbound Spectre jobbing either.

" Fight 1: Spectre should win but he has been taken out by people significantly weaker than him in the past like Black Adam. With preparation, they might get a win. If he's not jobbing, he should win. Fight 2: Spectre unbound should be way above what these guys can handle even with preparation. I don't recall unbound Spectre jobbing either. "

" @Silver2467: I shouldn't have said taken out but what I was trying to point out is that people below his level were capable of harming him before. "

What is a restricted power Spectre?

@lol: I'm not sure. I think he meant "bound to a host", but from what I've seen, Spectre is actually less powerful when unbound/not attached to a host.

@xiix: actually, the spectre unbound has better feats than most bound, like in DoV. the only reason it seems like that is because spectre would be too powerful bound, therefore they always bound him to a host to justify the PIS feats.

Yeah unless you wish call Crispo Allen as the host

@baron_von_santa: That's not what I gathered from the feats. Spectre had to exert himself unusually to strike the killing blow against Nabu. Who, while admittedly the most powerful Lord of Order, himself has not feats to suggest he'd pose much of a problem to The Spectre. Same with Shazam earlier in the series.

@xiix: he did not exert himself, he was just angry, really really angry. anyway, remember how he killed nabu? by leeching magic from everywhere in the universe, thats how. think of all the magic he got, he became truly unstoppable but we never got to see how powerful because Yahweh stopped him, and forced him into a new host. anyway, when he fought with captain marvel with amps, they were messing up dozens of dimensions, and he was taken by surprise, AND he did not even take magic from anywhere.

the difference between bound unbound:

bound, can not take magic.

unbound: can leech magic from anywhere in the universe, without worrying about any defenses.

edit: shazam was in his place of power, and the RoE makes his already low end sky father power 1000 fold.

With prep? Well Doom was able to take some of the Beyonders powers right? So why couldn't he do the same to Specter? Plus Marqis of Death is a powerhouse on his own and he probably could be able to stall Specter while Doom uses a device to drain Specter of his powers?

@baron_von_santa: That's what "exert" means: "To put in vigorous(meaning strong or rapidly growing) action". That was the entire point of Nabu taunting him and "pushing him" so he would exert more power, because the way Spectre was going about it wasn't getting the job done insofar as killing him(even asking what was taking him so long), and by extension the(then) current age of magic wouldn't end, and The Presence wouldn't have intervened.

I'm aware of Spectre drawing in magic for the killing blow, but that's just it;it strikes me as somewhat odd Spectre would need to consult an external power-source to kill him in the first place.

@xiix: well, it is not a low feat for spectre, it s a high end feat for nabu. even all the magic of the universe did not instantly kill him, when spectre without taking magic from anywhere was messing up dozens of dimensions with captain marvel.

@baron_von_santa: I can agree/understand that.

@xiix: and even nabu was like 'why is it taking you so long to kill me?' and ' you should have been able to crush me in an instant'.

and he also said there was a rational part of him, so spectre was holding back too. this theory is backed by this scan;

@baron_von_santa: What would you consider Spectre's best feat to be?

@xiix: stealng all magic from everywhere in the universe should be his greatest. followed by him almost beating anti monitor, followed by him making michael say he is a formidable foe (though this one should be the first, even though michael was obviously saying that just to not hurt specs feelings). followed by him beating parallax.

spectre is often used by DC to weaken characters for popular superheros like superman to strike the final blow, which is why DC has less fans than marvel.

what do you think of my lucifer respect thread?

http://www.comicvine.com/lucifer-morningstar/4005-24232/forums/lucifer-morningstar-original-and-new-52-respect-th-1514774/

lol bias much?

@aquaman01: actually, kind of.

@baron_von_santa: It's pretty good. Could use some expansion as far as showing his higher end feats, but overall informative.

@xiix: um, wanna rate it on that thread? i have hit my maximum post number lol

Spectre

@baron_von_santa: You forgot him depowering Mxyzptlk and undoing the damage caused Emperor Joker with a severely weakened Mxyzptlk, despite Hal being extremely inexperienced with the power of Spectre. Also you could add Hal beating Stigmonus.

With prep both Marquis of Death and Doctor Doom should win.

spectre easily

Marquis wins both rounds, spectre is hard to guage, he migt win and he might lose lol.

Duo

Marquis solos both rounds without prep and I would be willing to bet Doom with prep could too.

Duo.

If you're giving Prep to Dr.Doom then this is a horrible stomp. The Team wins.