@justleader: It's limbo, but I really have no idea what that is. Anyway TR is so big that he can't fit inside of reality. He beat the daylight out of an equivalent to COIE AM.
@justleader: It's limbo, but I really have no idea what that is. Anyway TR is so big that he can't fit inside of reality. He beat the daylight out of an equivalent to COIE AM.
You mean Mandrakk right? Mandrakk>COIE Anti moniter. And that is irrelevent in this battle, all these are multiversal beings, LT is megaversal and perhaps even more so they can't match him
@justleader: Tell me, what exactly is a mega verse?
A megaverse is a collection of multiple (prehaps even infinite) amount of multiverses. It's like a multiverse contains multiple-infinite universes, the megaverse contains multiple-infinite multiverses.
@justleader: I thought the omniverse was the biggest "verse" of them all.
Yes it is, the omniverse encompasses all possible universes, multiverses, megaverses, etc.... and that's why it is impossible for a fictional character to be omniversal.
Yes, it is stated that eternity embodies a boundless universe while multi eternity embodies a boundless multiverse, so yes some extremely powerful beings can. And the amalgam brothers are stated to encompass DC and Marvel Megaverses, and each universe is infinite in size, and there are infinite universes in the multiverse and there are infinite multiverses in a megaverse, so the brothers encompass infinity just fine.
Living Tribunal is indeed, omniversal, that's what he (or some being, don't remember) claim because to take care of One-Above-All's creation, you have to be really transcendic to do that.
Pretty much anything below Living Tribunal is non-factor, unless you're equal or surpassing his power, which it's debatable for all the contestants here.
Moreover, anything that happens to Living Tribunal is all canon, no matters if it What-If universes, because unlike Eternity, he existed only as one and present in every universe in form of different avatars that is connected to one universal conscious.
But from what I know, Living Tribunal easily handles object who that can do virtually do anything by wielder's thought, such as erasing half of the lives from the universe (Thanos with Infinity Gauntlet). Most of the people here are more of the destructive type, they can destroy a reality, but they are not necessary have the power to created one with every details.
LT held two megaverses in one hand so he can solo this battle, Mr. Mxy is the only real threat to LT but he doesn't have the feats to match LT
When has LT done that?
He held the 2 amalgam brothers each of whom was the embodiment of a megaverse, one was the embodiment of the Marvel Megaverse the other was the embodiment of the DC megaverse and LT held them in one hand but the sad news is that they kicked his ass afterwards. LT is also stated to exists in all multiverses simultaneously, so that is a megaversal feat, but the holding the brothers is more impressive. Non of the team characters have megaversal feats so LT wins easily.
LT held two megaverses in one hand so he can solo this battle, Mr. Mxy is the only real threat to LT but he doesn't have the feats to match LT
When has LT done that?
He held the 2 amalgam brothers each of whom was the embodiment of a megaverse, one was the embodiment of the Marvel Megaverse the other was the embodiment of the DC megaverse and LT held them in one hand but the sad news is that they kicked his ass afterwards. LT is also stated to exists in all multiverses simultaneously, so that is a megaversal feat, but the holding the brothers is more impressive. Non of the team characters have megaversal feats so LT wins easily.
when you say full power does that mean Spectre is not restricted by Logoz as it has been stated in Hal Jordans series that when Spectre comes up short its because what he is doing goes against the will of Logoz (the word aka the presence) as Spectre should be able to beat beings like Lucifer and Michael if it weren't for this as Michael only beat Spectre by using the word (Logoz) and has also came and begged for Spectre's help before?
Team 2. Joker with Mxy's power destroyed the universe really easily and turned the Spectre into his minion. Mxy can do that here as well, and LT can deal with the other two easily too.
Team win this These beings are mulitversal/omniversal threats alone add all 4 of them and i just don't see Living Tribunal holding up. I mean Plot Robot is a huge threat alone. Also i assume you don't mean WF Mxy because if you do he solo's
@sithlantern93: I am of the same opinion as you on this but I disagree with you on some things.
Mxy can solo yes but only with WF feats which are usually not allowed.
Spectre can't solo yeas he is a multiversal entity who has proven to be above other multiversal beings like COIE Anti-Monitor and Zero Hour Parralax but he is not on LT level.
Anti-Monitor similarly is multiversal but is not on par with Spectre or LT in fact he is the weak link of the battle.
Thought Robot (Plotbot) is the strongest on team (bar WF Mxy but I'm assuming he is not allowed as he is above The One Above All and Presence I mean he hopped out the comic and made the writers change stuff so yeah) as he has fought Mandrak (a being who can actually erase parts of a characters history from comics).
None of them can do it alone but put them together they can take him.
Team easily, Spectre and LT are pretty much equal. Adding AM and TR to it gives them the win.
every single word in this statement is wrong
No, it is correct. I've posted a scan proving such and seriously? Spectre? Mxy, TR and AM would murk LT. Period. LT would have trouble vs. Mxy and Spectre alone, let alone all of them.
Team easily, Spectre and LT are pretty much equal. Adding AM and TR to it gives them the win.
every single word in this statement is wrong
No, it is correct. I've posted a scan proving such and seriously? Spectre? Mxy, TR and AM would murk LT. Period. LT would have trouble vs. Mxy and Spectre alone, let alone all of them.
not even a little bit. the Spectre gets beaten by people like Fate... the LT destroys people like Strange and beyond... the LT no selled the Infinity gauntlet. The Spectre was beaten by Black Adam. The LT beat Adam Warlock with the IG... yeah clearly they care comparable.
Team easily, Spectre and LT are pretty much equal. Adding AM and TR to it gives them the win.
every single word in this statement is wrong
No, it is correct. I've posted a scan proving such and seriously? Spectre? Mxy, TR and AM would murk LT. Period. LT would have trouble vs. Mxy and Spectre alone, let alone all of them.
not even a little bit. the Spectre gets beaten by people like Fate... the LT destroys people like Strange and beyond... the LT no selled the Infinity gauntlet. The Spectre was beaten by Black Adam. The LT beat Adam Warlock with the IG... yeah clearly they care comparable.
I'm pretty sure Thanos beat LT and everyone else with HOTU(LOT who's supposed to be omnipotent) so yes that's accurate.
Guess you ignored the scan I posted huh? Incorrect. Dr. Fate never beat Spectre, he fought him and LOST to Spectre don't know where you're getting your info from. Spectre killed Nabu!
So yeah my initial statement remains, team murks LT here easily. Mxy for one isn't bound by outside Universe rules, TR adapts to literally ANY cosmic threat. Spectre is equal to LT and if anything has been more powerful as he was one with God at one point...his power varies due to the Presence's choice. AM is self explanatory. The team beats down LT here. No denying it.
@sithlantern93 dude feel free to post those scans man figured you'd wnat to check this topic out ;)
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