Spawn vs Goku

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#1 Posted by NeonGameWave (5111 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Both are at their strongest

But Spawn does not have his Divine/Angel powers

No prep

Winner by Death/K.O/Surrender

Who wins?

#2 Posted by Dark Cloud™ (1410 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Spawn loses, but would put up one f**k of a battle.

#3 Posted by god_spawn (30460 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Spawn freezes him in time. Trololol.

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#4 Edited by BlueComet (997 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Goku uses IT and teleports him back to Hell or into a church. Otherwise he'd destroy Spawn with a Spirit bomb.

#5 Edited by XImpossibruX (3336 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

With Goku's speed, teleportation and technique he can put down Spawn.

Decapitation.

And Goku is way to durable to be hurt by Spawn, not even including SSj4 form.

Now you saw Frieza easily kicking a planet busting attack away with little effort. And Namek exploding failed to vaporize his body. But let's see Trunks Sword on Mecha Frieza

Trunks Sword >>>>> Planet Busting Attack and Planet Explosion

Now lets see how good that works on Goku

This means that Goku's Ki enchanced finger has the duraility to survive planet busting in SSJ alone. This is further proof that Ki can be used for defence, and can enhance durability.

Now Buu is able to casually run through and completely destroy the entire city. He literally runs and buildings collapse and the supercity is in ruble after he's done.

He punches SSJ3 Goku and literally does nothing.

Furthermore base Goku in dragonball is tanking a nuke without any trouble at all. The force blows away the city, forces tsunami's that push boats in the air, but Goku didn't even move when faced with a blast like that.

In Dragon Ball Goku after fighting with Piccolo survives a nuke blast at point blank range.

AND THIS IS GOKU WITH A PL OF 300, WHO LITERALLY REACHES BILLIONS AT THE END OF GT

#6 Posted by god_spawn (30460 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@BlueComet: Spawn teleports through dimensions. BFR wouldn't work.

@XImpossibruX: He's regenerated heads as well. Decapitation is useless.

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#7 Posted by RumbleMan_Exe (1544 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

SPAWN

#8 Posted by Neo_Prime666 (47 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

SPAWN, with FTL reflexes stops time and kill Goku.

#9 Posted by XImpossibruX (3336 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

@BlueComet: Spawn teleports through dimensions. BFR wouldn't work.

@XImpossibruX: He's regenerated heads as well. Decapitation is useless.

I still don't see how Spawn can even hurt Goku, let alone survive his power and speed.

This is early SSJ Goku, someone who is wet tissue paper compared to SSJ4 Goku

1:02 punches Frieza 100% Deathball that would of destroyed the planet

1:50 fighting at hypersonic speed continuously through mountains.

#10 Edited by god_spawn (30460 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Spawn transmutes him or teleports inside him and explodes outward.

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#11 Posted by RedLanternSuperman (333 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

SSJ4 Goku is overkill.

#12 Posted by SMDfanboys (158 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@RedLanternSuperman said:

SSJ4 Goku is overkill.

#13 Posted by god_spawn (30460 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX: Good for Goku. Spawn has time control capabilities, transmutation capabilities and has teleported inside opponents and ripped them from the inside out.

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#14 Posted by BlueComet (997 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

@BlueComet: Spawn teleports through dimensions. BFR wouldn't work.

@XImpossibruX: He's regenerated heads as well. Decapitation is useless.

It does if Goku teleports into a church where Spawn is powerless.

#15 Posted by god_spawn (30460 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@BlueComet: Goku knows nothing of Spawn so your point is irrelevant.

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#16 Posted by BlueComet (997 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

@BlueComet: Goku knows nothing of Spawn so your point is irrelevant.

No, but one of the Kais will realize what Spawn is and tell Goku then he teleports into a church and kills Spawn or he can just use the Spirit Bomb and obliterate Spawn.

#17 Posted by god_spawn (30460 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@BlueComet: The Kais have nothing to do with this. Your point is still irrelevant.

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#18 Edited by BlueComet (997 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

@BlueComet: The Kais have nothing to do with this. Your point is still irrelevant.

Says who? There's nothing here that says Goku can't get information on Spawn telepathically. And how is the Spirit Bomb irrelevant? Don't try and say the Genki Dama wouldn't work.

#19 Posted by god_spawn (30460 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@BlueComet: Says common sense. This is Goku vs Spawn. Not Kais in Goku's head spoon feeding him information while he fights vs Spawn.

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#20 Posted by XImpossibruX (3336 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@BlueComet said:

@god_spawn said:

@BlueComet: The Kais have nothing to do with this. Your point is still irrelevant.

Says who? There's nothing here that says Goku can't get information on Spawn telepathically.

Agreed. Hell even Vegeta and Goku can communicate with telepathy

And Goku can read minds, he can easily read Spawns mind since he's to fast for him,

#21 Posted by god_spawn (30460 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX: Not agreed. The kais have nothing to do with this. And Spawn has telepathy himself, the point of it here is useless as it is doubtful either will use it.

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#22 Posted by bump1010 (75 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Doesn't Goku in character fight people on even terms? I doubt he would use a strategy which involves depowering a foe off the bat.

#23 Posted by joeagentofhand1 (3285 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

I think Spawn wins even if he is not in his angel/devine form.

#24 Posted by BlueComet (997 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

@BlueComet: Says common sense. This is Goku vs Spawn. Not Kais in Goku's head spoon feeding him information while he fights vs Spawn.

Well the Kais are there. They aren't just going to let Goku die without trying to help him and since the OP doesn't say otherwise it works. Even without the Kais help Spawn would just be killed by a Spirit bomb.

#25 Posted by xeon1cs (1471 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@BlueComet: Before or after Spawn stops time?

#26 Posted by BossMan404 (137 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Didn't Goku become a god after absorbing the Dragon Balls? Isn't he immortal like Garlic Jr? I have questions.

#27 Posted by god_spawn (30460 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@BlueComet: The Kais don't mean a thing here, quit reaching. If you want me to play your game then I will. MoM doesn't want Spawn to die then and feeds him her power once more and he solos the entire series by himself.

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#28 Posted by Illuminatus (9303 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Goku isn't magical or holy in nature. He can't hurt Spawn.

Some people these days. Yeesh.

#29 Posted by CadenceV2 (9845 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@BlueComet: Spawn fought Reedemer in a church just fine...

Anyway Spawn has beaten Planet Busters before becoming Hell king.

Like Urizen.

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His very Power is Reality Warping Magic.

He stops time with ease.

Hell King Spawn wins here.

#30 Posted by god_spawn (30460 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@CadenceV2:

Spawn fought Reedemer in a church just fine...

Not to mention he has spent quite some time around churches too and I believe he fought a gang of vampires in one IIRC. Anyways, their point is irrelevant on the church even if it weaken him.

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#31 Edited by XImpossibruX (3336 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@CadenceV2: Who has Spawn defeated that is a planet buster?

And Goku fought Frieza who can

Easily destroy worlds

Here in the canon ova:

Both of these are destroyed within seconds, and with a fraction of Freeza's power. And planet vegeta is either 10x as big or as dense as earth.

Only when he hesitated does he only hit the core.

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But planetbusting is easy to freeza

And freeza has no problem kicking away planet busting attacks

And Freeza, after being beat to near death, and cut in half survived the planet was on's destruction

Showing greater than planetary durability.

In fact he said he would barely be hurt if he was caught in a planetary explosion at full power.

Freeza tanked a genkidama made from namek, surrounding planets, and the star of namek and was fine.

A weaker Genki dama made on earth is planetbusting

And freeza can explode enemies internally via telekenetics

He can also pick up and toss objects via telekenetics, and use telekenetics to perform a "kiai eyes" like blast.

He can easily split a planet

He tanked the kamehameha from Goku, which should be above planetbusting magnitude since a much weaker kamehameha over powered Vegeta's planet destroying Galic Gun, and even in DB (pre Z) Goku's "chou kamehameha" was more powerful than Roshi's moonbusting kamehameha.

Physical durability, tanks being punched through mountains.

This essentially shows that even while fooling around (Goku and Freeza weren't fighting at full power yet) mountain busting physical blows and the durability to tank said blows is something Freeza is easily more than capable of.

Yet still after all that, SSJ Goku smacks him around like he was made of something weak.

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Goku in SSJ is a match for Spawn. SSJ4 is just plain overkill.

If we add in time stopping, then Goku's durability would make it a stalemate.

#32 Posted by god_spawn (30460 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

I'll come back when someone puts up a real case. Ta ta.

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#33 Edited by CadenceV2 (9845 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX: All awsome feats. BTW anything more than 10 scans you should use the Option to the Right (many little Boxes instead of the Stack) to post. It slows people PC down and Againt the rules.

Anyway What is a Planet Buster to a World Level Telepath who can fight without a Planet?

Even before claiming the 8th Level Hell King Throne he had World Wide Empathy/Telepathy. As Hell King he can bring Goku to his Realm where he is God.

Also Spawn has various abilities here he can use.

1) Spawn has Illusion Casting (This alone can tip the scales as Goku be temporarly thrown off)

2) Spawn can Phase as well Teleport into Goku Body. Splat.

3) Bring back the Dead.

4) Spawn can enter the Shadows and stay there without being touch while Instant Teleporting all over where Shadows are.

Spawn can Stop Time which alone is grounds for winning as Goku has never shown ANY defense against that period.

Spawn as Hell King is a Reality Warper, something Goku never fought against and shown no defense against.

#34 Edited by TheMightyAvenger (1860 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Well this is getting ridiculous, Spawn destroys Goku.

And lol at people getting mad at Goku losing and saying that the Kais are going to help him. Seriously this is Spawn vs Goku. No outside interferences, and I highly doubt Goku would use such a cowardly tactic like depowering his enemy so he can win.

#35 Posted by XImpossibruX (3336 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@CadenceV2: Nice scans.

But I'll be back with my counter-argument tomorrow I need sleep.

#36 Edited by BlueComet (997 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

@XImpossibruX: All awsome feats. BTW anything more than 10 scans you should use the Option to the Right (many little Boxes instead of the Stack) to post. It slows people PC down and Againt the rules.

Anyway What is a Planet Buster to a World Level Telepath who can fight without a Planet?

Even before claiming the 8th Level Hell King Throne he had World Wide Empathy/Telepathy. As Hell King he can bring Goku to his Realm where he is God.

Also Spawn has various abilities here he can use.

1) Spawn has Illusion Casting (This alone can tip the scales as Goku be temporarly thrown off)

2) Spawn can Phase as well Teleport into Goku Body. Splat.

3) Bring back the Dead.

4) Spawn can enter the Shadows and stay there without being touch while Instant Teleporting all over where Shadows are.

Spawn can Stop Time which alone is grounds for winning as Goku has never shown ANY defense against that period.

Spawn as Hell King is a Reality Warper, something Goku never fought against and shown no defense against.

If Spawn were to teleport Goku into his dimension he'd just teleport out. Pretty simple.

Goku can create multiple Afterimages to throw Spawn off.

If I'm not mistaken sun light hurts Spawn. A Solar Flare would cause serious damage.

Furthermore Goku fights martial arts through instinct and feels the life force(KI) of his opponent when he cannot see them, and feels the movement and anticipates the attacks of who he is fighting.

Feeling the air currents when he can't see, and determining Yakons moves. He can also generate large amounts of light when in his SSJ form:

http://imageshack.us/a/img507/4083/gokufightingyakon.jpg

http://imageshack.us/a/img839/4787/gokufightingyakon2.jpg

#37 Posted by CadenceV2 (9845 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@XImpossibruX said:

@CadenceV2: Nice scans.

But I'll be back with my counter-argument tomorrow I need sleep.

Cool.

#38 Posted by xeon1cs (1471 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@BlueComet: Ignoring that Spawn can literally stop time.

#39 Posted by god_spawn (30460 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@xeon1cs said:

@BlueComet: Ignoring that Spawn can literally stop time.

And transmutation. And teleport inside his opponent and rip them from the inside out where he can do all kinds of gnarly things.

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#40 Edited by BlueComet (997 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

And transmutation. And teleport inside his opponent and rip them from the inside out where he can do all kinds of gnarly things.

Has he ever done that technique on someone with Goku's durability?

@xeon1cs said:

@BlueComet: Ignoring that Spawn can literally stop time.

Okay so Spawn stops time....... then what? How is he gonna kill Goku? SOmeone who can tank nuclear-planet destroying attacks.

#41 Posted by CadenceV2 (9845 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@BlueComet: Spawn can Stop Time and Freeze Goku in place.

Also sunlight in no way harms Spawn. He is however more useful power wise (like Shadowportation) in the Dark. Also Spawn use to require the Creatures that hide from the Sun to empower or recharge him.

As Hell King he has no limit on his power use.

Spawn also is not the only one reacting. His Suit itself acts out on its own. Chains are faster than Bullets, Suit Itself is Hyper Sonic in Speed, Acts out when Spawn is KOed. In the Last Scan he is KOed when found and his Suit as well him are fine in Daylight.

#42 Posted by god_spawn (30460 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@BlueComet: And sunlight does not hurt Spawn.

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#43 Posted by BlueComet (997 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@CadenceV2 said:

@BlueComet: Spawn can Stop Time and Freeze Goku in place.

Also sunlight in no way harms Spawn. He is however more useful power wise (like Shadowportation) in the Dark. Also Spawn use to require the Creatures that hide from the Sun to empower or recharge him.

As Hell King he has no limit on his power use.

Spawn also is not the only one reacting. His Suit itself acts out on its own. Chains are faster than Bullets, Suit Itself is Hyper Sonic in Speed, Acts out when Spawn is KOed. In the Last Scan he is KOed when found and his Suit as well him are fine in Daylight.

How will he kill Goku once time has stopped?

He can't hide in the shadows if Goku lights up the whole area via SSJ:

http://imageshack.us/a/img839/4787/gokufightingyakon2.jpg

Goku is far beyond super sonic speeds, as a kid Goku Dodged Bullets at point black range:

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Fast enough to Deflect Machine Gun fire with a thin pole

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Tapping back and forth so fast he becomes "invisible"

1. img692.imageshack.us/img692/7143/kidgokugoinginvisible.jpg

2. img841.imageshack.us/img841/4282/kidgokugoinginvisible2.jpg

3. img513.imageshack.us/img513/2477/kidgokugoinginvisible3.jpg

#44 Edited by BlueComet (997 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@CadenceV2: @god_spawn: Even if the Solar Flare doesn't do any physical damage to Spawn it'll still blind him for a long period of time allowing Goku to charge up his spirit bomb, the same combination he used against Great Ape Vegeta.

#45 Posted by god_spawn (30460 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@BlueComet: Irrelevant point. Again.

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#46 Edited by BlueComet (997 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

@BlueComet: Irrelevant point. Again.

How? How is my point irrelevant?

#47 Posted by god_spawn (30460 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@BlueComet: Because he can't move. Because Goku has no counter against being frozen in time. Goku has no defense against Spawn's transmutation. Goku has no defense against Spawn ripping him from the inside out which can be altered by said transmutation. You and impossibru's scan collection may work in a superman thread but they are useless here. You can keep posting as many FTL and planet destroying scans as you want and continue ignoring posts that I, Cadence and others have made and even reach so far as to get the Kais involved, but it doesn't change the end result; Goku loses here.

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#48 Posted by BlueComet (997 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@god_spawn said:

@BlueComet: Because he can't move. Because Goku has no counter against being frozen in time. Goku has no defense against Spawn's transmutation. Goku has no defense against Spawn ripping him from the inside out which can be altered by said transmutation. You and impossibru's scan collection may work in a superman thread but they are useless here. You can keep posting as many FTL and planet destroying scans as you want and continue ignoring posts that I, Cadence and others have made and even reach so far as to get the Kais involved, but it doesn't change the end result; Goku loses here.

@god_spawn: You've posted 0 scans the only person who's even made an effort to defend Spawn is Cadence. Anyways post a scan of this transmutation and internal ravaging so I can see it for myself then I'll make a counter argument for it. I doubt he used that move on someone with Goku's level of durability though.

#49 Posted by cuddles666 (310 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

Both combatants have fought their way out of Hell on multiple occasions. I give this one to Goku.

Make it happen, Capcom!

#50 Edited by RudeBomberBoy01 (643 posts) - 5 months, 18 days ago - Show Bio

@BlueComet said:

@god_spawn said:

@BlueComet: Because he can't move. Because Goku has no counter against being frozen in time. Goku has no defense against Spawn's transmutation. Goku has no defense against Spawn ripping him from the inside out which can be altered by said transmutation. You and impossibru's scan collection may work in a superman thread but they are useless here. You can keep posting as many FTL and planet destroying scans as you want and continue ignoring posts that I, Cadence and others have made and even reach so far as to get the Kais involved, but it doesn't change the end result; Goku loses here.

@god_spawn: You've posted 0 scans the only person who's even made an effort to defend Spawn is Cadence. Anyways post a scan of this transmutation and internal ravaging so I can see it for myself then I'll make a counter argument for it. I doubt he used that move on someone with Goku's level of durability though.

Please don't confuse energy durability with resistance to matter/reality manipulation. Goku has never demonstrated that kind of durability/resistance. He loses here. Period.

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