#1 Posted by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio

who wins?

#2 Posted by The Batman! (879 posts) - - Show Bio

Spawn........

#3 Posted by HobGadling (706 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd say Dr. Manhattan.  You can say Spawn has "divine powers", but really, so does Dr. Manhattan for all intents and purposes... the scariest, IMO, being his "awareness" of the ins and outs of the matter around him.  If there's a way to defeat Spawn, I think he'd know what that was immediately, and get to work at doing it.

#4 Posted by the human Juggernaut (7224 posts) - - Show Bio

dr. manhattan would just scatter spawn's molecules...

#5 Posted by King Saturn (223786 posts) - - Show Bio
Doctor Manhattan would beat Spawn senseless...
#6 Posted by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio
HobGadling said:
"I'd say Dr. Manhattan.  You can say Spawn has "divine powers", but really, so does Dr. Manhattan for all intents and purposes... the scariest, IMO, being his "awareness" of the ins and outs of the matter around him.  If there's a way to defeat Spawn, I think he'd know what that was immediately, and get to work at doing it."
lol Spawn is possibly the smartest man in the world. He once held 6 thousand souls within him. Before all the souls went off to the higher plane, Spawn retained ALL there knowledge and memories. Six thousand people worth of knowledge and memories. The possibilities are limitless. And are you saying Divine Spawn would be beaten by him?
#7 Posted by King Saturn (223786 posts) - - Show Bio
Doctor Manhattan cannot defeat Spawn with Divine Powers... but Manhattan can defeat current Spawn. Manhattan has the power to manipulate matter on a very high level he also has the power to copy himself and Manhattan also has massive energy manipulation powers... he is just a step ahead of Spawn in terms of power
#8 Posted by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio

so how would he beat Spawn and what ways can he do so?

#9 Posted by King Saturn (223786 posts) - - Show Bio
oldmagic said:
"so how would he beat Spawn and what ways can he do so?"
Molecular Manipulation... Manhattan could alter Spawn's form on a Molecular level... and possibly turn him into salt or something that would make him pose no threat in this fight
#10 Posted by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio

Possible but highly doubt it. Spawn defeated Maleboigia in his own realm. And that is more than just impressible, it should have been impossible. Maleboigia was nearly omnipotent within his own realm and Spawn beat him. Also, we are using Spawn before he became a god right? 

#11 Posted by King Saturn (223786 posts) - - Show Bio
oldmagic said:
"Possible but highly doubt it. Spawn defeated Maleboigia in his own realm. And that is more than just impressible, it should have been impossible. Maleboigia was nearly omnipotent within his own realm and Spawn beat him. Also, we are using Spawn before he became a god right? "
Yeah this is regular Spawn... and another thing is Malebodgeia even though he was considered to be Omnipotent... did not have all the skills Manhattan possess. I dont recall Malebodgeia ever having the ability to manipulate matter on a high level even within his realm
#12 Posted by Hedatary (3768 posts) - - Show Bio

lol Spawn had that ability. When he first found out about his powers, he transmuted the very air into a bottle of wine.

#13 Posted by King Saturn (223786 posts) - - Show Bio
Hedatary said:
"lol Spawn had that ability. When he first found out about his powers, he transmuted the very air into a bottle of wine."
Oh I Know. But to what extent can Spawn manipulate matter ? Is it to a level of someone like Firestorm who can transmute and manipulate matter on a level of objects and moderate size land masses ? Or some like Classic Molecule Man who could manipulate every molecular structure within the entire universe ?
#14 Posted by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio

damn....yepp, I can't think of anyway Spawn could win this. 

#15 Posted by King Saturn (223786 posts) - - Show Bio
oldmagic said:
"damn....yepp, I can't think of anyway Spawn could win this. "
Spawn would probably put up a decent fight at first but Manhattan has too much power in terms of molecular control
#16 Posted by oldmagic (5295 posts) - - Show Bio

yea, even when he transports, his entire body is ripped apart to atoms? or was it molecules? from traveling from point A to point B. Spawn in done for. 

#17 Posted by King Saturn (223786 posts) - - Show Bio
oldmagic said:
"yea, even when he transports, his entire body is ripped apart to atoms? or was it molecules? from traveling from point A to point B. Spawn in done for. "
Indeed. Manhattan can rip anything apart on a molecular level
#18 Posted by Ownerz (1122 posts) - - Show Bio

Spawn Age 2 would be an interesting fight

#19 Posted by MOONKNIGHT-LANTERN (389 posts) - - Show Bio

which spawn are we using?..
#20 Posted by DC_Marvel_1000 (12062 posts) - - Show Bio

alrighty then 
spawn age one could win if he can somehow beat down on the doctor tell and then BFR hom into hell where he can't get out and he would lose most of his powers 
second age can just stop time, bring him to hell and trap him there forever 
third age might lose more times then not 
divine just blinks him away
#21 Edited by King Saturn (223786 posts) - - Show Bio
@DC_Marvel_1000 said:

" alrighty then spawn age one could win if he can somehow beat down on the doctor tell and then BFR hom into hell where he can't get out and he would lose most of his powers second age can just stop time, bring him to hell and trap him there forever third age might lose more times then not divine just blinks him away "

actually... I think Spawn of the First Age is in all kinds of trouble here... especially since Manhattan main power was Matter Manipulation on the Atomic Level... 
#22 Posted by DC_Marvel_1000 (12062 posts) - - Show Bio
@King Saturn said:
"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:

" alrighty then spawn age one could win if he can somehow beat down on the doctor tell and then BFR hom into hell where he can't get out and he would lose most of his powers second age can just stop time, bring him to hell and trap him there forever third age might lose more times then not divine just blinks him away "

actually... I think Spawn of the First Age is in all kinds of trouble here... especially since Manhattan main power was Matter Manipulation on the Atomic Level...  "
the thing is that spawn of first age even broken down atom by atom can come back, only way to kill a hellspawn is to cop off his head or to kill him with holy magic, doc has no way to put spawn down for good or KO him here
#23 Posted by WindCloud (2678 posts) - - Show Bio
@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @King Saturn said:
"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:

" alrighty then spawn age one could win if he can somehow beat down on the doctor tell and then BFR hom into hell where he can't get out and he would lose most of his powers second age can just stop time, bring him to hell and trap him there forever third age might lose more times then not divine just blinks him away "

actually... I think Spawn of the First Age is in all kinds of trouble here... especially since Manhattan main power was Matter Manipulation on the Atomic Level...  "
the thing is that spawn of first age even broken down atom by atom can come back, only way to kill a hellspawn is to cop off his head or to kill him with holy magic, doc has no way to put spawn down for good or KO him here "
But as someone has already said, if Dr. M can see through time in all directions, then he can figure out such a way to defeat Spawn.
#24 Posted by DC_Marvel_1000 (12062 posts) - - Show Bio
@WindCloud said:
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @King Saturn said:
"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:

" alrighty then spawn age one could win if he can somehow beat down on the doctor tell and then BFR hom into hell where he can't get out and he would lose most of his powers second age can just stop time, bring him to hell and trap him there forever third age might lose more times then not divine just blinks him away "

actually... I think Spawn of the First Age is in all kinds of trouble here... especially since Manhattan main power was Matter Manipulation on the Atomic Level...  "
the thing is that spawn of first age even broken down atom by atom can come back, only way to kill a hellspawn is to cop off his head or to kill him with holy magic, doc has no way to put spawn down for good or KO him here "
But as someone has already said, if Dr. M can see through time in all directions, then he can figure out such a way to defeat Spawn. "
and he would only find the holy weapons the hurt him, the head chopping off thing inly hell and heaven know about, and they are both protected from such ways of seeing into them
#25 Posted by WindCloud (2678 posts) - - Show Bio
@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @WindCloud said:
" @DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @King Saturn said:
"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:

" alrighty then spawn age one could win if he can somehow beat down on the doctor tell and then BFR hom into hell where he can't get out and he would lose most of his powers second age can just stop time, bring him to hell and trap him there forever third age might lose more times then not divine just blinks him away "

actually... I think Spawn of the First Age is in all kinds of trouble here... especially since Manhattan main power was Matter Manipulation on the Atomic Level...  "
the thing is that spawn of first age even broken down atom by atom can come back, only way to kill a hellspawn is to cop off his head or to kill him with holy magic, doc has no way to put spawn down for good or KO him here "
But as someone has already said, if Dr. M can see through time in all directions, then he can figure out such a way to defeat Spawn. "
and he would only find the holy weapons the hurt him, the head chopping off thing inly hell and heaven know about, and they are both protected from such ways of seeing into them "
LOL !!!
#26 Posted by King Saturn (223786 posts) - - Show Bio
@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @King Saturn said:
"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:

" alrighty then spawn age one could win if he can somehow beat down on the doctor tell and then BFR hom into hell where he can't get out and he would lose most of his powers second age can just stop time, bring him to hell and trap him there forever third age might lose more times then not divine just blinks him away "

actually... I think Spawn of the First Age is in all kinds of trouble here... especially since Manhattan main power was Matter Manipulation on the Atomic Level...  "
the thing is that spawn of first age even broken down atom by atom can come back, only way to kill a hellspawn is to cop off his head or to kill him with holy magic, doc has no way to put spawn down for good or KO him here "

Who said Manhattan had to kill Spawn ? Manhattan could simply break down Spawn's Molecular Structure in to a Ball and simply Contain him in that form and Teleport him to another Galaxy or Dimension or something... 
#27 Posted by MKF30 (11635 posts) - - Show Bio

Doc, if you're matter then he can hurt you lol. And most things lets face it ARE made up of matter...
#28 Posted by WindCloud (2678 posts) - - Show Bio
@MKF30 said:
" Doc, if you're matter then he can hurt you lol. And most things lets face it ARE made up of matter... "
Well, Divine Spawn can make himself exist as non-matter.
#29 Posted by DC_Marvel_1000 (12062 posts) - - Show Bio
@King Saturn said:
"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:
" @King Saturn said:
"@DC_Marvel_1000 said:

" alrighty then spawn age one could win if he can somehow beat down on the doctor tell and then BFR hom into hell where he can't get out and he would lose most of his powers second age can just stop time, bring him to hell and trap him there forever third age might lose more times then not divine just blinks him away "

actually... I think Spawn of the First Age is in all kinds of trouble here... especially since Manhattan main power was Matter Manipulation on the Atomic Level...  "
the thing is that spawn of first age even broken down atom by atom can come back, only way to kill a hellspawn is to cop off his head or to kill him with holy magic, doc has no way to put spawn down for good or KO him here "

Who said Manhattan had to kill Spawn ? Manhattan could simply break down Spawn's Molecular Structure in to a Ball and simply Contain him in that form and Teleport him to another Galaxy or Dimension or something...  "
mmm true
#30 Posted by MKF30 (11635 posts) - - Show Bio

@Windcloud, since there are a few versions of Spawn I take it this is just the normal version and none Divine?
#31 Posted by GhostPool (663 posts) - - Show Bio

Spawn 1 age=Manhattan wins

2nd age=Manahattan

3rd age=Manhattan

Divine=Spawn can make him vanish in a sec

#32 Posted by DC_Marvel_1000 (12062 posts) - - Show Bio
@GhostPool said:
"

Spawn 1 age=Manhattan wins

2nd age=Manahattan

3rd age=Manhattan

Divine=Spawn can make him vanish in a sec

"
whoa whoa whoa, age two would beat dr M
#33 Posted by Fortified_Hooligan (1975 posts) - - Show Bio

someone said the only way to beat first age spawn was to chop off his head... turning his entire body, including his head, into splattered jelly won't do the trick? 
 
How is this less damaging than chopping off the head? Not only is the head gone, but so is everything else! 
 
It comes down to a contest of matter manipulation, and ultimately, energy manipulation. Who's will or power of matter manipulation is stronger? Then, if Spawn wins, he has to somehow dispel Dr. M's real self, the part that creates new bodies when the old one is destroyed. That would be the only way to take out manhattan for good.
#34 Posted by Ownerz (1122 posts) - - Show Bio

 
 
Spawn goes down

#35 Posted by NightFang (9851 posts) - - Show Bio

Spawn - beat God and Lucifer.    

#36 Edited by TheLastStand (5 posts) - - Show Bio

i would only agree that, a symbolic fight between him and spawn is as nourishing to the intellec, as a photograph of oxygen to a drowning man.

Spawn in any of his stages of power, could mean no more thread than the most powerful turtle to dr manhattans eyes.

Divine mystic forces, scarlet witch, supreme tribunal...None of them could even hold a breath before being pulverized into molecules smaller than anything ever known. Spawn wouldnt even try to manipulate dr manhattans existence even before he was turned into a superior being. he is already linked to the universe in a way that would make any of the dumb divine supreme tribunals cry of fear.

Spawn wouldnt even get a strike,the doc would just break his divine body into an infinity of beutiful and harmless quantum possibilities, or he would just be bringed back gently into dust then comprimed into a sugar particle (if so much drama was necesary, which i think to dr manahttan would mean just a noisy mosquito)

How come a creature could aim mystical powers to something is not even physically- spiritually-existentially-past.present-future-lly joined to time and space?....in a split second of a little finger movement dr manhattan would just tear apart from the universe lets not say just spawn, but all of this galaxy's content.

even if the stubborn fans of spawn say it would take a strike, dr manahttan would just build itself back as he is constantly doing

#37 Edited by Pokergeist (22351 posts) - - Show Bio

i would only agree that, a symbolic fight between him and spawn is as nourishing to the intellec, as a photograph of oxygen to a drowning man.

Spawn in any of his stages of power, could mean no more thread than the most powerful turtle to dr manhattans eyes.

Divine mystic forces, scarlet witch, supreme tribunal...None of them could even hold a breath before being pulverized into molecules smaller than anything ever known. Spawn wouldnt even try to manipulate dr manhattans existence even before he was turned into a superior being. he is already linked to the universe in a way that would make any of the dumb divine supreme tribunals cry of fear.

Spawn wouldnt even get a strike,the doc would just break his divine body into an infinity of beutiful and harmless quantum possibilities, or he would just be bringed back gently into dust then comprimed into a sugar particle (if so much drama was necesary, which i think to dr manahttan would mean just a noisy mosquito)

How come a creature could aim mystical powers to something is not even physically- spiritually-existentially-past.present-future-lly joined to time and space?....in a split second of a little finger movement dr manhattan would just tear apart from the universe lets not say just spawn, but all of this galaxy's content.

even if the stubborn fans of spawn say it would take a strike, dr manahttan would just build itself back as he is constantly doing

You do realize Spawn has Molecule Powers as well right?

RIIIIGHT?

No?

Well Spawn stomps.

Spawn can Freeze Time, Molecule Manipulation, Transmutation, and Black Hole Dr. M into Hell where he has no power.

Spawn Stomps.

#38 Posted by Vaeternus (9410 posts) - - Show Bio

Dr. Manhattan

#39 Posted by TheLastStand (5 posts) - - Show Bio

You do realize Spawn has Molecule Powers as well right?

RIIIIGHT?

No?

Well Spawn stomps.

Spawn can Freeze Time, Molecule Manipulation, Transmutation, and Black Hole Dr. M into Hell where he has no power.

Spawn Stomps.

I actually do.

''dr manhattan travels via black holes all the time'' he is constantly traveling trough the universe.

''Hell and necroplasm Are in basic concepts IRRELEVANT to the doc. its a waste of time trying to think that he could be traped in hell. is sort of silly anyways.

Now Spawn is a Beast

but this doesnt mean the doc wouldnt fuck him silly.

Spawn is still foolish and his past life self concious remains inside him somehow

- do you understand Dr manhattan can see the future realted to a person and manipullate any of its components?

Spawns molecule manipulation means playing legos to Dr manhattan as he will just laugh at it.

His concepts and the way he understands and manipulates matter are light years beyond spawns.

-Or what the Doc has ISNT called powers, and theres no logical way (that spawn could get trough his little skull) that you can take them away from him?

Dr manahttan has been around way more time outside this galaxy than Al simmons, and his concepts and the way he understands the mattter goes beyond any inmortal creature. Even if Spawn could freeze time this wouldnt do effect on the doc, He is simultaneously on infinite layers of divided time and space.

Spawn wouldnt get a chance to make eye contact with the Dr manhattan.

#40 Posted by StudentOfJorEl (121 posts) - - Show Bio

Spawn wins. Dr Manhattan is featless.